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[SoMissTV]

Laurel may reinstate corporal punishment in schools (http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=5142746)

[daisy]

OOps, thought this was @ swing dance. Later!

[Conveyor Belt]

I know I'll probably get inundated with a reply quoting 100's of studies that show the contrary, but, sometimes, you just gotta whack a kid.

[jmb]

When my kids first started school, we had the choice of allowing spanking or not. I signed the form to NOT spank simply because there are times that kids get blamed for things they didn't do, but I never let the kids know I had signed it. I figured if they got in trouble at school and needed a spanking, I'd do it myself, which I did a time or two. When it's deserved, I don't think there's a thing wrong with it, provided it's done properly. There's a difference is getting spanked and getting your ass beaten.

[Conveyor Belt]

When my kids first started school, we had the choice of allowing spanking or not. I signed the form to NOT spank simply because there are times that kids get blamed for things they didn't do, but I never let the kids know I had signed it.

That reminds me of when I was in 1st grade. We were tripping each other, and this kid with a bandanged knee was tripping people and tripped me, so I tripped him back, he fell on his bandaged knee and started crying, which brought a teacher, and I was blamed for tripping him, which I did, and explained to the teacher he tripped me first, but still. I think he should have gotten a paddling (done with a paddle ball paddle) too. I'm still kinda pissed about that.

You know, come to think of it, all the paddlings I ever recieved at school were questionable. It's not that I didn't do what it was I got paddled for, it's just that I was the only one who got caught. I guess that helped me be so afraid to try anything that could get me arrested or in trouble now. I know as soon as I try it, I'm going to get caught. If no one else get's a ticket for it, I'll get one.

[jmb]

That reminds me of when I was in 1st grade. We were tripping each other, and this kid with a bandanged knee was tripping people and tripped me, so I tripped him back, he fell on his bandaged knee and started crying, which brought a teacher, and I was blamed for tripping him, which I did, and explained to the teacher he tripped me first, but still. I think he should have gotten a paddling (done with a paddle ball paddle) too. I'm still kinda pissed about that.

You know, come to think of it, all the paddlings I ever recieved at school were questionable. It's not that I didn't do what it was I got paddled for, it's just that I was the only one who got caught. I guess that helped me be so afraid to try anything that could get me arrested or in trouble now. I know as soon as I try it, I'm going to get caught. If no one else get's a ticket for it, I'll get one.

My point exactly.

When my oldest was in first grade, we were at school for the first-grade Christmas program. The kids were all supposed to be sitting quietly in their chairs (in the classroom) waiting to come into the auditorium. I had to take one of the younger boys to the bathroom and noticed my son sitting in the hallway. When I asked him why, he said he had gotten up to get a book to read and the principal saw him and made him sit in the hall. It didn't matter that the rest of the kids were being loud. He was the only one sitting in the hallway. I told the principal I didn't think this was the time or place to be doing this; he was nervous enough about the program without being put on display, and what about the other kids? They were being rowdy; why weren't they in the hall?

[Conveyor Belt]

I think parents pointing at other kids misbehaviors may be the problem, in a way. Yes, I was wrong, and yes, I wasn't the only one doing wrong, but that's the way the world works. The time I crossed over a RR track with the gates down, I followed 2 cars in front of me, and only after the engineer of the engine that was sitting on the tracks waved me on. Of couse, guess what, a cop saw ME do it and said I was lying about other cars going through and about the engineer. I was a teenager at the time and that cop was hellbent that I was lying. I was respectful, shut up, and paid the ticket.
There are 1000's of instances where all the guilty aren't punished. That, to me, is reality.

I think I may have reacted the same way to the principal, but at the same time, I think I would tell my son that if everyone else in the room were running around and having fun, he better be sitting quietly in that chair like he was told.

[jmb]

At the time, he was on Ritalin for ADHD, could not take any that late in the day because it would have kept him from sleeping that night, and considering the way the other kids were behaving, he did a good job of controlling himself and had only stepped two feet away from his desk to get a book to read. The principal, who happens to be a cousin of my husband's, knew quite well the situation with him and just wanted to...I was going to say make an example of him, but he didn't do that because the other students continued their behavior. I just think he was out of line. And I'm not one of those parents that blames everyone else for their kid's behavior. I'm a hard-ass when it comes to discipline. Just ask them next time we're down...they'll tell ya! lol

[ACEsmom]

Same here Queen. My sons teachers know that if my son acts up I am to get a call and I will deal with him immediately. Although, there are so many kids whose parents don't care or don't want to deal with it, so I guess the school has to be able to do something.
I think that the parents need to be disciplined for not giving a poo - can the schools spank them too. I know those teachers can tell within the 1st week - if that - of which kids have parents that give a poo - then if the kid acts up, spank the parent - in front of the kids -- maybe more parents who are just sperm and egg donors would become mommies and daddies. And I hope you all know I'm being sarcastic -- except for this quote that I saw on a Laurel billboard -- "Anyone can be a father, it takes someone special to be a daddy" - that includes playing with and disciplining... and mommies too.

[fuzzis]

Violence against children by adults has no place in education. There are school districts (and teachers) all over the country that manage to have effective discipline without resorting to an ineffective consequence that merely shows children that the adults in their lives have lost control.

fuzzis

[Conveyor Belt]

Between that and Israel, it's almost enough to drive me to reading through Revelations again... almost.

[MSQueen]

I've never signed that it is okay to spank my child at school. In fact, I've written on the form that if my child misbehaves in a manner that would warrant a spanking, I am to be telephoned so that I might be involved in the disciplining.

When my son was younger, we incorporated spanking in our disciplining - but sparingly and when it was warranted. My husband nor I have ever wanted anyone else spanking our child. I feel like spanking is something a parent and a parent alone does.

As far as the school - there are lots of forms of disciplines on the discipline ladder that come before spanking. If my child is misbehaving so badly that he goes through these other forms without improvement and a determination is made that spanking at school is appropriate - then I'm to be called and believe me, my son doesn't want that to happen. He'd probably rather get the spanking at school and be done with it!!!

QM, this is EXACTLY what we did with our two sons. every year i wrote in his signature page of the handbook that had to be turned back in that NO CORPORAL PUNISHMENT was to be used on my child -- a parent/parents were to be called should the infraction call for CP so that we could come to the school and determine what action we would take. ditto on child would probably rather get CP at school than from me or his father!! :smt038