HA: OG Incorporation Group "laying low and revamping the appearance of everything"

[Kitty]

"When there is disharmony among the sellers, it's hard for buyers to believe in the product" (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060724/NEWS01/607240312/1002)

[aaron]

They are going to have to throw everyone on that property association off and find some new representatives.

[politically incorrect]

This might be mentioned on another thread. If so, I apologize. I read an opinion piece the other day by Darian Pierce, the message being "don't be fooled" into thinking that Hattiesburg will not annex residential areas of Lamar County. He used the annexation of the 200 acres of land in Forrest County as an example.

This just shows how far the OG Property Owners Assoc. will go to scare people into signing on to incorporation. That land annexation was opposed by DuPree until it was pledged to be commercial, then the majority of the council went ahead and announced it would still be residential and the mayor did not veto. The whole matter is a little confusing and has not been fully decided.

The fact is, DuPree and Fairley et. al. will not annex residential areas of Lamar County because it would likely mean their loss of power. No one is stupid enough to sign their own political death warrant.

Pierce also talked about how Hattiesburg is surrounding the OG schools. The high school is already in the city of Hattiesburg! And nothing has changed. The school is still a good school and is still part of the Lamar County School District.

Even though I live just outside of Petal and have no stake in the fight over OG, I can not stand to see the OGPOA use fear and false information to get what they want. It is pretty clear that the people of the OG community do not want to incorporate, yet they are being railroaded into it by people who have financial interests.

Resist, people of Oak Grove! Sign nothing and let the movement die on the vine. It will only lead to higher taxes and more government regulation of your lives. You chose to live in the county and your lives are fine just the same. Don't buy into the hype!

[Conveyor Belt]

Lets say that by some chance Dupree gets caught up in some scandal by the feds and is ousted and someone else becomes mayor, or that Dupree is defeated/dies and does not rule Hattiesburg forever. What if that Mayor DOES want to annex OG?

[Hub a Bubba]

[quote= What if that Mayor DOES want to annex OG?[/quote]

As I understand it. the "Voting Rights Act" that was just renewed for another 25 years prevents a city from taking in additional voters that would dilute the "minority" voting strength.:confused:

[politically incorrect]

Lets say that by some chance Dupree gets caught up in some scandal by the feds and is ousted and someone else becomes mayor, or that Dupree is defeated/dies and does not rule Hattiesburg forever. What if that Mayor DOES want to annex OG?

I would speculate, CB, that most (probably all) future mayors of Hattiesburg will share Mayor DuPree's vision for the demographic make-up of the city. The only thing that would change that is if by some miracle, a Republican or true conservative Democrat wins the next election and moves immediately to incorporate half of Lamar County. Otherwise, it will never happen.

[231326]

I found a BLOG site on that other site. It's about the Oak Grove Thing...


b l o g . s t o p o g c . c o m

Someone gave a sweet image of a pig with grunts about you know who...

[aaron]

why do you keep spacing out the URL's like that?

[lamarrebel]

P.l. -- Oak Grove High School is not in the City Limits of Hattiesburg. The frontage along Old Hwy 11 is, but the school itself is not.

[SouthChic]

why do you keep spacing out the URL's like that?

I figured it was because 231326 is a new member. Having made only 4 posts, he/she isn't allowed to post urls, correct?

[lamarrebel]

Evidently, his only purpose is to advertise his anti-OG incorpoation sites.:smt102

[politically incorrect]

My mistake. I see the Hattiesburg Corporation Limit signs all around and I thought I had read that somewhere else on the board. Anyway, it would make no difference one way or the other.

[MrPaulB007]

I am new to posting, so I apologize if this is not up to par or "Politically Incorrect"...pun intended! For what it is worth, welcome to my maiden post! I hope it is not offensive and is helpful! Maybe it is not to long... if my post is not welcome, posting will not be a habit I make. Thanks for your interest, if any.

Politically Incorrect wrote "This might be mentioned on another thread. If so, I apologize. I read an opinion piece the other day by Darian Pierce, the message being "don't be fooled" into thinking that Hattiesburg will not annex residential areas of Lamar County. He used the annexation of the 200 acres of land in Forrest County as an example.

MrPaulB007 wrote(It was a 215 acre residential development off Jay Edd Turner Road and Davis Timber road in the Oak Grove Community, not 200 acres. Being in Forrest county has nothing to do with the fact that Hattiesburg is and has taken residential land by annexation. The article was in Thursday's edition of the Lamar Times and the residential land being annexed was in Oak Grove.)


Politically Incorrect wroteThis just shows how far the OG Property Owners Assoc. will go to scare people into signing on to incorporation. That land annexation was opposed by DuPree until it was pledged to be commercial, then the majority of the council went ahead and announced it would still be residential and the mayor did not veto. The whole matter is a little confusing and has not been fully decided.

MrPaulB007 wrote(So, you agree that residential land is being taken by annexation as the article stated? Now, you are confusing me! Then what is the scare tactic you are referring to by the OGPOA? Can't we handle the truth without fear?

We only fear what we don't understand...or are misinformed about. The annexation information was validated by the horse's mouth, Councilman Kim Bradley. Also, the HA printed the public notice of the annexation for the public notice of the annexation. Are they also misinforming the public, in your opinion?

Mayor Dupree, as a man of his word, may veto the council's decision or it may be fought in court with the help of the NAACP if it is found that the voter roll percentages are effected. That is hard to do when no one knows who will inhabit an undeveloped subdivision. And I have never seen a "commercial subdivision" that far from a main traffic corridor in this town, BTW. It is residential annexation.

If the annexation is fought, guess who pays for the fight? These are facts, not lack of information or misinformation. Can you prove Hattiesburg will not take residential property? History, in the last month and beyond, has already disproven this.)


Politically Incorrect wroteThe fact is, DuPree and Fairley et. al. will not annex residential areas of Lamar County because it would likely mean their loss of power. No one is stupid enough to sign their own political death warrant.

MrPaulB007 wrote(You are not mentioning that the council is the mayor's check and balance. Who would gain from dilluting the current voter roll? Do you think the mayor is the only one who can vote an annexation into being? Or is this lack of information on your part?)

Politically Incorrect wrotePierce also talked about how Hattiesburg is surrounding the OG schools. The high school is already in the city of Hattiesburg! And nothing has changed. The school is still a good school and is still part of the Lamar County School District.

Even though I live just outside of Petal and have no stake in the fight over OG, I can not stand to see the OGPOA use fear and false information to get what they want. It is pretty clear that the people of the OG community do not want to incorporate, yet they are being railroaded into it by people who have financial interests.

MrPaulB007 wrote(I can't stand false information either. Which information are you using to get what you want? Do you want Petal to be the only shiny option in our area other than Hattiesburg?

I love Petal. But, I believe the fog on the river that seperates us is clouding your "clear" vision of what the people of Oak Grove actually want.

As far as I know, OGPOA is delivering information on their effort and the people are making their own choice of freedom to incorporate or not. There is no railroading going on unless you call it an information train!

Or did you look across the river from Petal to see someone being beaten into signing the petition? Pardon me if you did! All I can say is believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. We know this is the South...Let your conscience be your guide, not your fear. The truth should deliver us, not put us in fear.)


Politically Incorrect wroteResist, people of Oak Grove! Sign nothing and let the movement die on the vine. It will only lead to higher taxes and more government regulation of your lives. You chose to live in the county and your lives are fine just the same. Don't buy into the hype!

MrPaulB007 wrote(If your post was bait, then I took it and replied. I pray that I was not offesive in any way. I have serious questions about your comments, mostly out of curiosity. I believe we are all truth seekers in our own way and I appreciate your post on this subject.

As you know, misinformation breeds ignorance. Truth breeds intellegence. If you combine curiosity with perserverance, the truth will appear and intellegence will grow. I hope the truth appeared in my post! Thanks for your time and consideration.)

[Hub a Bubba]

:smt102 If I understood it correctly, Darian Pierce on WDAM tuesday night indicated that the INC group would be getting their signatures at the Oak Grove Football games. Just how legal would this be?

[Biggie]

:smt102 If I understood it correctly, Darian Pierce on WDAM tuesday night indicated that the INC group would be getting their signatures at the Oak Grove Football games. Just how legal would this be?

About as legal as NoNotNow campaigning at HHS a while back I guess.

[lamarrebel]

:smt102 If I understood it correctly, Darian Pierce on WDAM tuesday night indicated that the INC group would be getting their signatures at the Oak Grove Football games. Just how legal would this be?

I think the activity would probably be protected by the First Amendment, so long as it was just having a table set up somewhere outside of the stadium near the entance, political candidates routinely work college and high school football games.

I do question the logic in going this route, however. If mi=shandled, such an effort can simply just turn more people off.

[Conveyor Belt]

They could set up a special bbq area where the price for admission was your signature on their petition.

[wilebill]

For every signature they could hand out a mess o'turnips.

[lamarrebel]

Or maybe kitty could show up dressed in a turnip costume to protest!

[Hub a Bubba]

I guess the "Just say NO" group could set up a table next to them!!!:smt038
Maybe have their own petition. That would give everyone a choice.

[Kitty]

Or maybe kitty could show up dressed in a turnip costume to protest!
What a terrific idea for a Halloween costume! :pumpkin:

Thanks, Hubba! :yes:

[MrPaulB007]

For every signature they could hand out a mess o'turnips.

LOL...Now, you jest makin me hongry! I'm paulb the sailor man, TOOT TOOT!

Seriously, turnips go well with any BBQ. I can't say I've ever heard someone from the south say "dang, turnips at a cookout again!" even when a lot of people nowdays seem to not like turnips.

I do, and don't know why. In fact, I have been thinking about trying boiled kudsoo, it seems to grow with no trouble or garden...

ps. Dumb question, is there some way of automatically notifying someone that a reply has been made to their post? Is this bad manners?

[wilebill]

I think there's some email notification thingy you can check off in your control panel or user profile or whatever the heck it's called.

[Kitty]

. . . Dumb question, is there some way of automatically notifying someone that a reply has been made to their post? Is this bad manners?
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[turnip]

Greens and turnips, freash cornbread and pepper sauce on the side. Please drop by for a plate. Turnip

[MC69TA]

What a terrific idea for a Halloween costume! :pumpkin:

Thanks, Hubba! :yes:


Terrific idea :eusa_danc
http://www.animalmascots.com/images/mascots/food/01p0027.jpg

[Kitty]

No, that isn't me. :)

Tonight is the first home football game at Oak Grove. I'm so looking forward to seeing the belly-dancer. I have good seats.

Maybe the cheerleaders can throw turnips into the stands instead of the little footballs.

[Kitty]

Uh, the belly-dancer?
The turnip truck article (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060619/OPINION/60619003/1014/NEWS17)

Pertinent excerpt below (I have added the bold font):

"If you have a question about Oak Grove becoming a city, ask someone who knows the facts. If you do not want Oak Grove to become a city for some personal reason, don’t sign the petition.

If you’re going to debate the issue in a public forum, drop the rhetoric, get your own facts, and debate us. I stand by our research, the people who created it, and dare anyone to prove us grossly wrong on any of it.

In fact, if you can, I will be glad to perform an exotic belly dance in full garb on the 50-yard line at Oak Grove’s first home game this season.

The sports writer can take the picture."

[MrPaulB007]

The turnip truck article (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060619/OPINION/60619003/1014/NEWS17)

Pertinent excerpt below (I have added the bold font):

"If you have a question about Oak Grove becoming a city, ask someone who knows the facts. If you do not want Oak Grove to become a city for some personal reason, don’t sign the petition.."

Not excusing or defending the article, but if the public new the context of the HA report, they would understand. But I don't believe anyone really cares to discuss it judging from the MH suicide posts...:confused:

Did you see the front page, the say yes people seem to get "revamped"with time...maybe they are learning.
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060826/NEWS01/608260303/1002

Maybe the little fella could be a spokes man! I won't bother discussing this if this is not wanted...just sharing, thanks.:singer:

[Kitty]

Did you see the front page, the say yes people seem to get "revamped"with time...maybe they are learning.
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060826/NEWS01/608260303/1002

Maybe the little fella could be a spokes man!
While the photo in the HA doesn't show the entire message on the little fella's shirt, I did see at least one adult wearing the same shirt at last night's game.

I had wondered how the pro-incorporation group would attempt to display signage at the game. Wearing a sign in the form of a T-shirt was a clever idea.

BTW, the little fella in the photo is identified as a Pierce. The child of one of the pro-incorporation leaders?

P.S. I was disappointed that there was no belly dancer on the 50 yard line.

[MrPaulB007]

P.S. I was disappointed that there was no belly dancer on the 50 yard line.

I was disappointed about not seeing the belly dance myself. It would have been great to see a dance just out of humor! Evidently, the say no people didn't prove him wrong and the dance was contingent on that, according to the article.

The groups need to get together and discuss their views...if for no other reason than for the entertainment of a possible belly dance! They are not each other's enemies.
:smt075