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justme
07-28-2006, 09:56 AM
I found this online to day in the Hattiesburg American. I am sorry, but If we are starting this type of publication maybe we need the INS here more than I thought. I have serious doubts to the legality of the hispanic population here in town, and it is not all construction labor. Some of it is Marshall Durbin. This totally angers me. If you are coming here illgally- learn english- we should not cater to you.

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060728/LIFESTYLE/607280325/1024

Conveyor Belt
07-28-2006, 10:13 AM
That's what the article's about, learning english, so you can speak with the people at the Western Union office to send your money back to Mexico.

The MEP prepares to the children of migratory workers for the classrooms

That's the headline, ran through one of those handy internet translators.

Conveyor Belt
07-28-2006, 10:15 AM
Can someone who speaks/reads Mexicanish please translate the second paragraph for me? the translator gives me this:

Mitzy while it is prepared to reach his so yearned for dream and in his proud condition to belong to the Hispanic community around the world, evolves like new independent writer of the local newspaper Hattiesburg American, in addition to other so many activities that maintain their time occupied; like being to present/display the news in Spanish in the emitting radio of the University, to collaborate with the attention to the Hispanic public and with the shipments of the Western office Union in the supermarket of the city, work that conserve from its arrival to the country, by the friendship and the good relation that maintains with its employers.

jmb
07-28-2006, 10:30 AM
Is this going to be routine now, this Mitzy person writing articles in Spanish for the HA?



I think the HA forgot that the majority its readers speak English. If they're going to print this in Spanish, they should also print it in English.

selmore
07-28-2006, 10:31 AM
Part of the article says, "be careful because many of these so called "Christians" are in fact self-righteous and judgemental. Something, something, one generation away from a hood and a robe..
Never lift a finger to help a fellow human...
My Spanish is not very good, but that is what it says.


"A hypocrite is someone that is not themself on Sunday."

Conveyor Belt
07-28-2006, 10:44 AM
selmore, it doesn't say that... don't get people riled up unnecessarily.

Conveyor Belt
07-28-2006, 10:48 AM
The MEP prepares to the children of migratory workers for the classrooms
By Mitzy Suarez Saucedo

Mitzy Suárez Saucedo, a young person of 30 years of Bolivian nationality, just graduated as the University of the South of Mississippi of the masters program Massive Communication or "Mass Communication" the past May, arrived a pair ago of years of its native country with the purpose of learning the English language to be able to evolve of better way in its race like journalist and social signaller. After a year and after graduating with honors of the Institute as English as the University it decided to remain in the country by some time and to more initiate a masters in the field that as much gets passionate it, as it is the Massive Means Communication, all that with the dream of a day to become presenter of the news of a chain the International.

Mitzy while it is prepared to reach his so yearned for dream and in his proud condition to belong to the Hispanic community around the world, evolves like new independent writer of the local newspaper Hattiesburg American, in addition to other so many activities that maintain their time occupied; like being to present/display the news in Spanish in the emitting radio of the University, to collaborate with the attention to the Hispanic public and with the shipments of the Western office Union in the supermarket of the city, work that conserve from its arrival to the country, by the friendship and the good relation that maintains with its employers.

Nevertheless, its main preoccupation by its people took it to comprise of the program of education of migratory workers administered by the regional center of services and the local universities. Program that bases its effort on the aid of children in scholastic age with the purpose of facilitating the entrance to them to the scholastic life; since due to the work that their parents carry out, as its condition of life is agriculture becomes migratory, which it forces to them to travel constantly and to change of educative establishment several times to the year, its scholastic performance thus and their facility to acclimate itself to the new educative enclosure is seen constantly affected.

Migratory worker "to any person who dedicate to agriculture or compatible branches like survival source, or own and of all her family denominates itself". And agricultural activity to any activity related to the production of grains, milky products is considered, harvests or any type of culture, poultry keeping, fishes and cattle ranch. An apt migratory family considers itself to describe in the program to families who change themselves less by reasons for work in periods of 36 months or with children smaller to 21 years.

The intention of this program is to make sure that the children of migratory workers free have access to an appropriate education like any other boy in the country. In other words our work like administrators of the program is to assure to us that these children receive the same opportunity to become good students like other children. For the all this program it provides an education of high quality and a comprehensive treatment for the children of these workers, with the purpose of diminishing the disadvantages caused by the interruptions of his student life and by the barrier of the language. The program of education for children of migratory workers account with the support of the scholastic districts of each county and this administered by the regional center on watch and the local universities.

The program was born based on the premise of shortage of economic resources, mobility and scholastic profits related to the children of these workers. Consequently and due to the constant changes these children need more aid than others, reason why the Congress of the country in 1966 decided to establish this program under the direction of the scholastic districts. The program of education for children of agriculturists or migratory workers in compatible branches to agriculture, is an educative program that offers aid to children of 3 to 21 years that have not finished the school, the aid consists from registering them to the school, to provide necessary the scholastic material to them to making level them within the scholastic system so that they are ready to face his new educative atmosphere. All it is carried out through the development of temporary programs of support, like being the summer program that comes taking I finish the past from June in different districts from the city and some other counties of the state.

In addition to the mentioned program of summer that it has as objective to provide to the children the knowledge necessary to initiate the school of satisfactory way with the basic handling of the English language. Other forms of aid provided by the program are prenatal controls of health and vaccination for all the members of the family, cares for women in state of gestation and all the necessary services for new born, classes of English gratuitous, aid with translations, documents, interviews and other necessities that can appear.

The full article, filtered through Babelfish... you can get the jist of the article.

selmore
07-28-2006, 10:49 AM
they are already riled.
"deem dar mexicanos comming over to our cuntry, can't even speek inglish."

selmore
07-28-2006, 10:50 AM
Bablefish looks like a fun site, i may try it

Conveyor Belt
07-28-2006, 10:53 AM
这是同样多乐趣象它可能。

TheKing
07-28-2006, 11:02 AM
the current editor is from tampa....so she is used to non-english speaking people being a larger segment of hte population...therefore an opportunity for new readers

she saw a couple signs on west pine (jackson newitt) advertised in spanish and a couple truckloads of mexicans when she first moved here and is convinced that hattiesburg is filled to the brim with them

i remember asking in a planning meeting if hattiesburg has a large spanish population that i was unaware of and i got the 'how dare you' looks.

they were actually gearing up to do all this pre-katrina and got sidetracked by the storm. but just be patient, just like everything else, theyll do it a couple times then forget about it....then probably bring it back 6 months later for a couple more stories.

when the hurricane did hit, we did make it a point to put the public service type stuff up in spanish though. that was a good idea....theres a difference between catering to non-english speaking citizens and keeping them informed in a time of crisis.

honestly though, i think her heart is in the right place...but IMO there just isnt enough people who dont speak english to justify taking up the space that i could be reading an AP wire story.

jmb
07-28-2006, 11:07 AM
Thanks for that info. You might pass it along to her that she should print the story in English too.

Maggie-Doodle
07-28-2006, 03:03 PM
Not only does the HA aggraviate me with this spanish stuff but the fact that the HA is devoting so much space to articles about Laurel...I don't live in Laurel and for the most part could care less about what is happening up there...something major is one thing from time to time but it seems most of our headlines and major stories now are about Laurel...check the kids page they do on Sunday....half the time the pats on the back are for Laurel Schools...we have enuf kids in our immediate area that they could devote more to them..I know the HA is a community newspaper but lets keep it in our community for the most part! Maybe they should just rename it "The Laurel-Hburg American!" Just like they do for the airport/tv station!

sidelinetolong
07-28-2006, 04:07 PM
I was not very happy with WDAM on the story about the fema trailers. If you are going to be the squeeky wheel you should be required to revel yourself. The whole story had no creditability with me. Nothing was said about the nerdowells that lived in the units scott free and did not have the decentsy to clean the units befor they were removed from their property.

Maggie-Doodle
07-28-2006, 04:48 PM
Sideline I was thinking the same thing...IF you gonna use something free for a year you could at least clean it out! Those are not people...they are pigs!!!

politically incorrect
07-28-2006, 04:55 PM
First of all, I love the "University of the South of Mississippi." Great.

As to the issue of Laurel news in the HA, they have been doing it for years. They are trying to compete with the local papers in outlying cities by offering "local news" for those communities. They want to be a "regional" newspaper. I think Hattiesburg, Petal and Oak Grove offer more than enough news for them to cover. If the folks in the other counties want to read what is going on around them, they should buy their local papers.

Sir Mickey Mouse
07-28-2006, 05:21 PM
Not only does the HA aggraviate me with this spanish stuff but the fact that the HA is devoting so much space to articles about Laurel...I don't live in Laurel and for the most part could care less about what is happening up there...something major is one thing from time to time but it seems most of our headlines and major stories now are about Laurel...check the kids page they do on Sunday....half the time the pats on the back are for Laurel Schools...we have enuf kids in our immediate area that they could devote more to them..I know the HA is a community newspaper but lets keep it in our community for the most part! Maybe they should just rename it "The Laurel-Hburg American!" Just like they do for the airport/tv station!

We tried for months to get news from Oak Grove, Hattiesburg, and Petal into our newspaper. But, for the most part, the Laurel school district was the only local district that sent press releases and photos three or four times each week. We would have the pick of Laurel stories, but hardly anything from Hattiesburg... we would get stuff once in a while from Petal or Oak Grove... but usually nothing copy ready.

As far as local television, Laurel was once the major local city. FCC rules limit the number of broadcast stations in areas, and especially areas as small as this. WDAM is in Jones County and Laurel was the major local city when the station signed on, thus creating the Laurel-Hattiesburg. WHLT is in Hattiesburg, but still serves the Laurel-Hattiesburg DMA, so it's licensed to Hattiesburg but still carries the DMA. Listen to legal ID's on radio stations... B 95 "Taylorsville, Laurel, Hattiesburg" or SuperTalk Mississippi "Sumrall, Hattiesburg." All the same concept.

SoMissTV
07-28-2006, 05:32 PM
As far as local television, Laurel was once the major local city. FCC rules limit the number of broadcast stations in areas, and especially areas as small as this. WDAM is in Jones County and Laurel was the major local city when the station signed on, thus creating the Laurel-Hattiesburg.


Actually, that's not entirely correct. The FCC does limit stations, but only for channel assignments, not population size. We could have 20 stations in town if the frequency space was available and the owners could prove profitability. As for WDAM's location, I believe that the FCC placed a restriction on the VHF channel assignments because of our proximity to other markets (NO, Mobile, Jxn, etc). When WDAM signed on in the 50's, they couldn't get a VHF channel assignment from from the FCC in Forrest county, but they could in Jones county. This is why they are in Estabutchie; it's the closest they can be to Forrest County without violating the FCC rules. Again, this is to the best of my mental recollection, but I'm pretty sure this was the reason.

Sir Mickey Mouse
07-28-2006, 05:37 PM
The guy telling me that was my professor while I was in broadcasting school at Ole Miss. He's not from Mississippi, so not sure if the population rule applies here or not.

SoMissTV
07-28-2006, 05:47 PM
http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/L/htmlL/license/license.htm

This is a sample of the requirements for licensure. Additionally, the company must prove that it has the finances on hand to run a station for six months with no income.

The station has to prove profitability. This might be where your professor was confused. Without a population to financially support the station, the FCC won't grant the license. However, population size is only one factor in the equation.

ACEsmom
07-28-2006, 09:53 PM
I was not very happy with WDAM on the story about the fema trailers. If you are going to be the squeeky wheel you should be required to revel yourself. The whole story had no creditability with me. Nothing was said about the nerdowells that lived in the units scott free and did not have the decentsy to clean the units befor they were removed from their property.

I missed that story but would love to read about it since we just moved out of our trailer. Yes, we cleaned it since it was brand new when we got it. It still smelled new after living in it for 8 months.

TheKing
07-28-2006, 10:05 PM
my folks live about half a mile from the fema trailer staging ground in purvis

the old man got wind that they were auctioning them off and got a bright idea for an investment opportunity

when he went down there...he said a great number of them were simply in awful shape

one of them even had a hole cut in the wall for an air conditioner

jmb
07-28-2006, 10:28 PM
one of them even had a hole cut in the wall for an air conditioner

Did the trailers come with no air conditioning?

Conveyor Belt
07-28-2006, 11:19 PM
I thought they had roof mounted AC's...

TheKing
07-29-2006, 04:57 PM
the travel trailers have the roof mounted AC...

the trailer homes have actual ACs...

i think anyway

but he still could have put that AC in a window instead of cutting a hole in the side of the trailer

there were several of them that were just torn to shreds like someone going out of government housing with style