View Full Version : Look Out!...Get Down!!
It's 0630 and they're shooting around John St. again close to where the little girl was hit. HIT THE DECK!
fuzzis
10-05-2006, 07:41 AM
Holy hell. A lovely way to start the day.
fuzzis
Bahlk
10-05-2006, 07:55 AM
It's bad when our men and women in the military come back to Hattiesburg and they find their home is just as dangerous as where they have been. It's a sad state of affiars people.
:(
Maggie-Doodle
10-05-2006, 08:17 AM
Let's see how long it takes this news to hit the HA or WDAM news! Better yet let's see how long it takes the chief or the mayor to start spouting off some kind of b.s. to the citizens about the incident.
Bahlk, you are so right...I bet "Essay" will regret going back to that hell hole...he was probably just as safe in Iraq as he is in the 'burg! I also bet he was surprised the hell out of on just how bad things are around this place since he left for military duty!
Seems strange the N.E.T. team hasn't worked miracles and caught the gunmen yet....or gotten the guns away from them....I was under the impression that was what all the "new" training was all about. I agree with a previous post, all the specialty units need to be put on the streets to work regular patrol until things calm down...Misenhelter and H. Sims also need to have their butts back out on the streets. Since the "chief" is so all fired smart let him handle the paperwork since we know he can't handle the streets!
jojobeans1120
10-05-2006, 08:22 AM
I've only been in this area for a few years. Where in the hell is this at? :smt102
Maggie-Doodle
10-05-2006, 08:58 AM
If you go towards town on Pine St. from Broadway Dr., you would turn right at the red light just past Dossett Pontiac...cross the rr tracks and hang to the left on Hall Ave. John St. will be down about three blocks. IF you would keep going east, HPD is about another 4 blocks or so down on the right side of the road. It is pretty much in the heart of one of the several gang territories in town.
I used to go that way every day when I worked at HPD...IF I had to work late nites, I would go down Bay St. to downtown then down Pine to Hardy St. to get back home...there was just about always hoodlums standing around on the street corners of that area.
If you go towards town on Pine St. from Broadway Dr., you would turn right at the red light just past Dossett Pontiac...cross the rr tracks and hang to the left on Hall Ave. John St. will be down about three blocks. IF you would keep going east, HPD is about another 4 blocks or so down on the right side of the road. It is pretty much in the heart of one of the several gang territories in town.
I used to go that way every day when I worked at HPD...IF I had to work late nites, I would go down Bay St. to downtown then down Pine to Hardy St. to get back home...there was just about always hoodlums standing around on the street corners of that area.
Maggie-Doodle, when we were down this summer, we were riding around town checking out old landmarks. When we left Sacred Heart Church, we turned the wrong way and ended up in this neighborhood. I told my husband we needed to change direction because by the street names I was seeing, I knew it wasn't "the best part of town", but I had no idea we were in the heart of gang territory!
jojobeans1120
10-05-2006, 09:52 AM
I have to admit, that's very scary. Children are being hurt and innocent people are being held hostage in their own homes. This $h*t is out of control!!! :x
justme
10-05-2006, 09:57 AM
I used to go that way every day when I worked at HPD...IF I had to work late nites, I would go down Bay St. to downtown then down Pine to Hardy St. to get back home...there was just about always hoodlums standing around on the street corners of that area.
I just want to say that I live on Bay street- and there is some foot traffic- but there are not people hanging out on street corners.
The areas where hoodlums are hanging out is williams and back towards petal and over in the neighborhood behind the HPD. You are hard pressed to find hodleums hanging out on street corners in the historical neighborhood- we have been very proactive in preventing this type of activity.
wilebill
10-05-2006, 10:21 AM
So Chief Wynn's plan is not working? Who'da thought that?
Kitty
10-05-2006, 10:32 AM
Maybe Wynn needs to reassign the officer running the speed trap over by the Hattiesburg Country Club to the John Street area.
Biggie
10-05-2006, 12:04 PM
Don't worry. The Black Superman "Chief Wynn" got it under control.
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58ford
10-05-2006, 12:34 PM
If they come a few blocks over I'm shootin back.
wilebill
10-05-2006, 12:51 PM
If they come a few blocks over I'm shootin back.Go ahead and sling a few in that direction from time to time.
Maggie-Doodle
10-05-2006, 02:54 PM
justme, sorry, I did not mean to imply that there were people hanging on the corners of Bay St. Maybe I could have worded my post a little better...what I was saying was I would go down Bay St. to Pine St. because I was afraid to go the shorter route down Hall to Pine St. there was always people hanging on corners in the Hall St./John St. area...many I recognized as gang bangers..just didn't want to go through that area by myself late at nite. I felt the Bay area was my best bet to get out safely...Edwards St. was just as bad for gang bangers. At the time there had been several shootings one block over on Katie...I know there was at least one murder in the vicinity of Katie & Walnut St...just a couple of blocks away from the John St./Hall St. area, all within a 4 or 5 block area of the p.d.
justme
10-05-2006, 03:16 PM
You are right about that...It is much safer to go down Bay than to go down Hall to get to Pine at night. I am scared sometimes when I am passing the gas station that is right there by the tracks because there are always people in the street, cars stopped, just random slowness right there, and the idea of having to stop in the middle of all that is scary. I would not go down James, Edwards or anywhere to the Left of Hall ave. after like 9 pm at night. I have found though that they tend to stay over on their side- we have all gotten dogs!
Maggie-Doodle
10-05-2006, 04:44 PM
YOU my friend are much braver than I am.....I do not go in that section of town AT ANY TIME if I can help it.
A dear friend of my families (a black lady who worked for my mother for over 30 years in my moms restaurant) died a few years ago...she was lying in state at a church off of Cypress St. I wanted to go to the funeral, I felt it was a must, she was like a second momma to me...at the time I was working at the p.d. and was very aware of several shootings that had happened very close to the church where my friends body lay in state. I was very upset and crying and one of the officers offered to go with me (off-duty) to the church for the funeral service so I wouldn't miss the services or have to go by myself. The service was at 11:00 a.m. there were gang bangers all around even at that time of the morning, even back then....since then it has only gotten worse. I am to the point I will not go to the shopping centers or grocery stores after about 5 p.m. if I have to go by myself....I am not paranoid, I just know the crap that happens in this town that is never reported to the news media...what appears in the daily police log doesn't even begin to cover the incidents that are actually reported.
jojobeans1120
10-05-2006, 11:48 PM
Why was this story not on WDAM ? :smt102 :smt102 I've heard no mention of it whatsoever! :confused:
carsalesguy
10-05-2006, 11:54 PM
you have got to be kidding me.....
just a friendly message to wynn::
HELLO!?!?!?! SOMEONE GOT SHOT THERE JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO!!! MAYBE U NEED TO GO AND CHECK IT OUT!!!! IT'S IN YOUR BACK YARD YOU IDIOT!!!
i feel better.
plus, it just goes to show u, that the gangs know how the police dept. works now.....
"hey, we just went by there and shot some folks. them po-po's ain't gonna be there....they too stupid....let's go back"
Maggie-Doodle
10-05-2006, 11:58 PM
jojo I made a special point to listen to WDAM at 5, 6, AND 10...I did not hear them mention anything about the latest incident either...makes me wonder WHY they are dropping the ball? It is a damn shame a city the size of the Burg can't get decent news in print or on tv!
I get more news from MH than I do either the paper or the tv station!
carsalesguy
10-06-2006, 12:19 AM
and i quote from the hattiesburg american cuz i don't know how to do the quote thing box stuff.....
Attempts to contact Wynn on Wednesday for more information about his plans to put more officers on the street even though the department is suffering a staffing shortage were unsuccessful.
HELLO!?!?! IS ANYONE THERE???? DID YOU TRY SHIPLEY'S OR KRISPY KREME?? HE IS NOT AT THE POLICE DEPT.....HE'S TOO BUSY GETTING DONUTS, EATIN SOME CHICKEN, OR CALLING THE ATF, WHICH THEY DID LOOK AT THE CALLER ID AND DIDN'T ANSWER, SO HE IS OUT TRYING TO FIND THEM.....
only one word describes HA and the wynn/dupree/fairley compound....
$HITHEADS
carsalesguy
10-06-2006, 12:26 AM
Guess what David Wynn's solution was to the gang problems. He had a meeting with the gang leaders at the police department. Why even give them recognition!!!! It's these types of decisions that have killed the moral at Hattiesburg police and made the officers so unhappy. And then they put this article in the Hattiesburg American saying that the turnover rate is so high because of pay. This is absolutely not true. The turnover rate is high because of one person and one person only. Yep, It's David Wynn. He doesn't need to be there and has no experience with municipal law enforcement, which is much different than being a state trooper. The fact is..everyone who has ever worked for or with David Wynn hates him.
simple google searches come up with so much stuff.....
I'll say it again. I have yet to talk to one person that worked with him at MHP or RCTA that has one good word to say about him other than thank God he his gone and your problem now.
jojobeans1120
10-06-2006, 01:58 PM
Rumor has it that there was a shooting at Roper's over the weekend!! Anyone heard anything about this? :smt102
Janedoe
10-07-2006, 05:09 PM
It is ironic that the worst part of town is by the HPD. Cheif got they back....fo' sho'
Janedoe
10-07-2006, 05:12 PM
Oh & just a thought....o.k. if I were cheif...just for a day. I would put my officers in strategic locations according to which areas were harboring the most crime. I might even have a few guys patrol the bus stops. Just a thought. The only place I have been seeing cop cars lately is on Hary, near USM...& various speed traps. WE NEED LEADERSHIP.:smt119
Janedoe
10-07-2006, 05:12 PM
Hardy...OOps
Janedoe
10-07-2006, 05:19 PM
simple google searches come up with so much stuff.....
Gosh. David Wynn...what a brilliant man! WTF was he thinking! You don't strike deals w/ criminals. This ain't The SHeild! Great now we will probably have an even bigger gang war on our hands. This s**t is crazy y'all. Just arrest them & be done. Set a few examples. Show 'em the tuff love they need. GET THEM OFF THE STREETS! PERIOD! Does anyone know if it is illegal to show affiliation? I heard that if the cops saw a group or person that were wearing colors or gang insignia that they could photograph them on the spot & possibly charge them. You would be shocked to know some of the crap these kids come up w/ to show affiliation. Everything from grills in the mouth, belt buckles turned side ways to shoe string colors. Also, notice the tagging (graffiti) that is new to our city. We also have Mexican gangs moving in. Heck if ya cant beat' em join 'em. I might start me a gang.
Why not hold another meeting and invite all the gang members and arrest them all at once. Oh yea, we don't have any police officers to arrest them!!
Desert Donkey
10-09-2006, 02:15 PM
The only way to curb gang activity is to make it an unattractive option, which is something we can't do because of the pervasive political "correctness" we've been saddled with for too many years.
Maybe we should deport them to middle eastern countries? I'm sure their posturing, threats and smack talk will impress the local police forces in places like Ramadi and Samarra.
cowgirl
10-10-2006, 07:22 PM
just notes for thoughts. in all of the areas and neighborhoods of our city, there are good people. sometimes, this criminal element can take over a community and paralyze it. this is why strong policing is needed. chief sims and landers knew this and kept a strong police presence. this is a tactic that is needed to intervene and prevent the increase of crime. otherwise, a culture of crime will prevail and become a way of life, much to the dismay of many of the residents. crime has hit the tipping point in hattiesburg and it will be hard to bring crime back to its low numbers. the people that broke the system CAN NOT fix it.
dollfus46
10-10-2006, 08:29 PM
It's bad when our men and women in the military come back to Hattiesburg and they find their home is just as dangerous as where they have been. It's a sad state of affiars people.
:(
A lot of truth in humor, Bahlk. :smt038 We've had two vets home from Iraq who were victims of violent deaths. Ain't that the pits? Survive roadside bombs and gunfire only to come back to the safe old USA and get killed. Life's not fair.
dollfus46
10-10-2006, 08:34 PM
No need to panic folks. It was simply Wynn shooting at someone who tried to steal his BBQ chocolate covered, cream filled donut this morning.
ROFL!!!!!!!! That's Funny! I don't care who you are. <Larry the Cable Guy
maxim
10-10-2006, 10:30 PM
the people that broke the system CAN NOT fix it.
Very true. Organizations are surprisingly resilient. The informal organizational structure in particular resists change. This can be why it is so hard to change The Way We Do Things Around Here. Sometimes ya needs a big stick.
In fact, if the mayor wanted to change HPD, he went about it the textbook way, bringing in an outsider to be a "change agent." The book goes on to say that their life expectancy is 3 years or so, at the end of which everyone hates them. They are often reviled for what they have done to the agency.
At that point (which by my calculations woulda been around 2003), the executive brings in someone else to reap what has been sown. The agency is allowed to slip back a bit in the old direction to gain buy-in from the troops, and permanent change has been achieved.
I wonder what sonuvabitch ripped the second page outa the mayors book? If I get my hands on that guy...
wilebill
10-10-2006, 10:43 PM
I wonder what sonuvabitch ripped the second page outa the mayors book? If I get my hands on that guy...
Damn, I like you! You're one smart cookie!
Desert Donkey
10-11-2006, 01:40 PM
"Look out...get down" and return fire!
carsalesguy
10-11-2006, 04:51 PM
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carsalesguy
10-11-2006, 07:05 PM
it didn't work
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