View Full Version : Mayor schedules meeting on gang violence
Maggie-Doodle
10-10-2006, 07:13 PM
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061010/NEWS01/61010017
The mayor has a plan...yeah, we will see! I just heard Councilman Dave Ware on WDAM and was taken aback by his comments.
He stated that at this time Wynn was the chief and he would stand behind him and try to give him the tools he needed to take care of the situation in the Burg.
As far as I am concerned he has had 5+ years and has done nothing to this point, it is time for him to go! I hope Ware changes his tune or he can look for a one term seat!
Conveyor Belt
10-10-2006, 07:16 PM
The way Ware was speaking, I could have sworn that HE was the mayor. Why wasn't Dupree out there for that story? I know it happened in Ware's ward, but it's Dupree's city... can we get a little ebony and ivory going on, at least in front of the cameras?
carsalesguy
10-10-2006, 07:22 PM
i wonder what people are thinking about ware.....
here is red bailey supporting him, and i'm sure everyone in the ward that voted for him thought that he would take up on bailey's views of the subject....
hbm, what would you have done at this point? too bad i don't live in your ward or else i would have voted u in......
I would have been calling on the chief to step aside and for the citizens to come in force to the monday meeting. We also need to flood the mayors office with phone calls and e-mails. I guess we also need to do the same with the council.
kevin
10-10-2006, 07:47 PM
Simple reason why johnny wasn't there.One, you don't let a boy talk for a man.Secondly,kenny is having a party at thames.Oh MR WARE be carefull I hear standing behind Wynn can be dangerous after his daily Wards chili Burger Combo....
dollfus46
10-10-2006, 07:58 PM
The way Ware was speaking, I could have sworn that HE was the mayor. Why wasn't Dupree out there for that story? I know it happened in Ware's ward, but it's Dupree's city... can we get a little ebony and ivory going on, at least in front of the cameras?
Probably couldn't reach Dupree. He's out of town.:)
dollfus46
10-10-2006, 08:01 PM
I would have been calling on the chief to step aside and for the citizens to come in force to the monday meeting. We also need to flood the mayors office with phone calls and e-mails. I guess we also need to do the same with the council.
They can hide/deny that. Get a few thousand good citizens with signs and go to the Mayor's office. That's make the paper and the TV news.
Kitty
10-10-2006, 08:07 PM
They can hide/deny that. Get a few thousand good citizens with signs and go to the Mayor's office. That's make the paper and the TV news.
As ironic as this will sound, it's almost to the point where citizens need to organize a March on Hattiesburg, much like the civil rights March on Washington in 1963.
Instead of a march for jobs and freedom, it would be a march for safety and competent municipal leadership.
As ironic as this will sound, it's almost to the point where citizens need to organize a March on Hattiesburg, much like the civil rights March on Washington in 1963.
Instead of a march for jobs and freedom, it would be a march for safety and competent municipal leadership.
But what if we get shot?
Kitty
10-10-2006, 08:16 PM
But what if we get shot?
Well, perhaps Billy McGee and Danny Rigel and their officers would march along to protect us. :smt102
KeepItSimple
10-10-2006, 08:57 PM
But what if we get shot?
If things keep going the way they are, you won't have to worry about IF you get shot, just WHEN you'll get shot..
Booshay
10-10-2006, 09:16 PM
I could be wrong, but I think Ware maybe under the line of thinking of...."give the chief the tools and support to do the job...which we know he cant or wont succeed at, and then (if) the mayor decides to submit the chiefs name again......reject it". At least that way he can honestly say "Hey, I gave him a chance, gave him what he needed and once again just as he has for the last 5yrs, he failed. Lets move on with a new chief."
wilebill
10-10-2006, 09:52 PM
I could be wrong, but I think Ware maybe under the line of thinking of...."give the chief the tools and support to do the job...which we know he cant or wont succeed at, and then (if) the mayor decides to submit the chiefs name again......reject it". At least that way he can honestly say "Hey, I gave him a chance, gave him what he needed and once again just as he has for the last 5yrs, he failed. Lets move on with a new chief."
My thoughts too. I think it's a smart move and allows Wynn to hang himself.
Maggie-Doodle
10-10-2006, 10:16 PM
Booshay you probably have a good point there...but listening to him talk it just came off wrong...especially after the way he campaigned about "listening" to the citizens of ward 4...Well, the citizens of ward 4 want the chief gone! Plain & simple!
The man has had over 5 years to get his act together, IT IS NOT going to get any better if it has only gotten worse!
maxim
10-10-2006, 10:38 PM
As the financial commercials say, "prior performance does not guarantee future results."
However... it IS the best predictor we have!
Desert Donkey
10-10-2006, 10:56 PM
I would issue a word of caution to the little gang bangers about their shooting habit; There are a LOT of us Soldiers fresh back from Iraq living here in Hattiesburg now. The simple fact that Mr. "Thugg" has a gun doesn't mean diddly to us, and when we get shot at, we return fire with a vengeance!
Careful what you go lookin' for, little "thuggz", you might get your little feelings hurt...
From conversations I have had with Dave Ware I do not think he is supporting Wynn. I do believe he has Hattiesburg's best interest at heart. I say this after running against him for the council seat. Since that time he has contacted me several times to ask my opinion and to check on matters affecting my neighborhood. He is keeping up with the things that are going on and I believe him when he says he is trying to find a solution.
Biggie
10-11-2006, 09:54 AM
I would issue a word of caution to the little gang bangers about their shooting habit; There are a LOT of us Soldiers fresh back from Iraq living here in Hattiesburg now. The simple fact that Mr. "Thugg" has a gun doesn't mean diddly to us, and when we get shot at, we return fire with a vengeance!
Careful what you go lookin' for, little "thuggz", you might get your little feelings hurt...
Damn. That dude must be having some flash backs at night, hearing bombs going off and stuff. Wouldn't want to be his pillow.
justme
10-11-2006, 10:05 AM
I could be wrong, but I think Ware maybe under the line of thinking of...."give the chief the tools and support to do the job...which we know he cant or wont succeed at, and then (if) the mayor decides to submit the chiefs name again......reject it". At least that way he can honestly say "Hey, I gave him a chance, gave him what he needed and once again just as he has for the last 5yrs, he failed. Lets move on with a new chief."
I heard that, and I know how he feels, and had felt prior to announcing his run for this seat. He is right- until the department heads are submitted for approval/ rejection he IS the chief of police, and the city council would be wrong for not providing him with all the tools necessary to run the police department. If he says he needs something - give it to him- when it doesn't work, it is proof of his ineffectiveness.
I was taken back but when I thought about it for a minute- it was a like a lightbulb going off- give someone enough string and they will hang themselves.
justme
10-11-2006, 10:07 AM
Booshay you probably have a good point there...but listening to him talk it just came off wrong...especially after the way he campaigned about "listening" to the citizens of ward 4...Well, the citizens of ward 4 want the chief gone! Plain & simple!
The man has had over 5 years to get his act together, IT IS NOT going to get any better if it has only gotten worse!
Ware can't do anythingunti lthe department heads are submitted- until then he just has to be "supportive" and hope that Wynn does the best job he can- and then Ware can talk to the citizen and do the investigations he said he was going to do ( ie how was the money he was given used and was it effective- did he do a good job?) and I think we will all see that he hsa proven a case that Wynn needs to go. his hands are tied until the heads are put up
Maggie-Doodle
10-11-2006, 01:54 PM
justme, I reckon in the back of my heart I know that but it just really pisses me off...I just hope it soon comes to a head. I would agree to give the chief "a chance" had he not had one, but good gracious...he has had chance after chance after chance for the last 5+ years....I think his chances have dried up.
These problems havn't just started this past week..as far as I am concerned something should have been done long ago....
I suppose having worked at the p.d. and knowing how things were handled before and after Wynn just adds to my aggraviations...I have seen "the best" and I have certainly seen "the worse!" It just makes me mad as hell that Wynn and Dupree just keep saying the same ole thing...officers have left for the money...NOT SO for probably 99% of them. Sure the ones who were lucky enuf to get a better paycheck were extremely lucky and blessed but I can tell you in no uncertain terms why they left....the same as me, WORKING CONDITIONS. Those who have not worked in such a pig sty and been talked down to like they were children do not have a clue!
As the others that left I consider myself reasonably intelligent and very hard-working...I did not have to have someone on my ass every minute of the day second guessing what I had done or what I needed to do....We did our jobs and expected to be treated like the professionals that we were, not like first or second graders.
I don't want to bring up the race card but the fact is, Wynn was the one who brought race up in the first place...he is one of the most racist people I know....the officers and the civilians who quit didn't have a problem working under a black....it wasn't like he was the first black supervisor we had....and we never had problems with the others...IMO had there been a problem working under a black, people would have left in droves long before they did....it all boils down to how people, black and white were treated. Yes there were more whites that left but that was because there were more whites in the department to begin with....I would imagine if the proportions were figured out, it pretty much was an equal thing.
Sorry to get on the soapbox again...just had to vent! And to the guys who are still left at the department, THANK YOU SO MUCH for being there for us....we don't want you to think we are bashing yall....only the admin. for too little too late! This is a fine time to get yourselves up in arms about what is happening!
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