what the heck is on WDAM?

[carsalesguy]

here's a program about darwin on WDAM.....what happened to Law and Order?

I'm callin them right now.......who in the right mind would put some crazy stuff like that on TV?

[wilebill]

I think it's some sorta anti-evolution program. Cameron musta got his panties in a wad over something.

[Smokey Bear]

I think it's some sorta anti-evolution program. Cameron musta got his panties in a wad over something.
lol

[Astra]

That is weird - the WDAM website is still advertising two hours of L&O. Of course, I'm not in the area right now to check it out.

[Conveyor Belt]

I'm not watching it, but here's the website:
http://www.coralridge.org/darwin/

and it makes me laugh, a bit...

“To put it simply, no Darwin, no Hitler,” said Dr. Kennedy, the host of Darwin’s Deadly Legacy. “Hitler tried to speed up evolution, to help it along, and millions suffered and died in unspeakable ways because of it.”

But the social fallout from evolution has not been limited to Hitler. Eugenics, the idea that social engineers should monitor and manage choices to marry and have children, is the intellectual offspring of evolution. Darwin’s own cousin, Francis Galton, coined the term and campaigned for using human genetics as a means to breed a superior breed of humanity.

Eugenics took root in America in the early twentieth century—some 33 states adopted forced sterilization programs to prevent the “feeble-minded” and other “defectives” from reproducing. Planned Parenthood is a direct result of the eugenics movement in America. Its founder, Margaret Sanger, believed in removing what she called “the dead weight of human waste.” “Eugenics is applied Darwinism,” said Coulter. “And it sticks out like a sore thumb that all of these German eugenicists preceding the Nazi regime were enthusiastic Darwinists.”

Evolution is taught in every public school in America, and not without consequences, as Darwin’s Deadly Legacy documents. Columbine killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 people and themselves in the worst school shooting in U.S. history. Their goal was to bring death to more than 500. Harris wrote on his website, “YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE??? Natural SELECTION! It’s the best thing that ever happened to the Earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms.”

so, Darwin was responsible for Hitler... I guess they never heard of Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (http://www.pitt.edu/~wbcurry/nietzsche.html). Wasn't it a Austrian Monk named Mendel who fostered genetics research with pea pods, showing that changes could be made and, in a way, helping to pave the way to prove some of Darwin's theories?

Even in America, we are talking of political Darwinism, in that Republicans are breeders, where Democrats are not, so it stands that in the future, there will be more Republicans than Democrats.

[Astra]

So WDAM replaced regular programming to run something that nutty... why?

[Conveyor Belt]

So WDAM replaced regular programming to run something that nutty... why?

I'm betting some church paid for it... That's just a wild-assed guess, though.

[SoMissTV]

Because they're being paid top dollar for it.

Every now and then, some group will shell out serious cash for airtime. This is nothing more than paid programming, only they're not selling dehydrators.

[Astra]

I would be curious to find out who paid for it, if that is the deal.

Guess I'm too used to the bigger stations where this kind of stuff wouldn't have a shot at prime-time.

[Conveyor Belt]

anybody watching notice a predominate sponsor of a religious nature for the program?

[wilebill]

I'm not watching it, but here's the website:
http://www.coralridge.org/darwin/

and it makes me laugh, a bit...



so, Darwin was responsible for Hitler... I guess they never heard of Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (http://www.pitt.edu/%7Ewbcurry/nietzsche.html). Wasn't it a Austrian Monk named Mendel who fostered genetics research with pea pods, showing that changes could be made and, in a way, helping to pave the way to prove some of Darwin's theories?

Even in America, we are talking of political Darwinism, in that Republicans are breeders, where Democrats are not, so it stands that in the future, there will be more Republicans than Democrats.Not commenting on your post per se, just that it seemed so weird coming from hubba's avatar. :smt118

[Conveyor Belt]

Not commenting on your post per se, just that it seemed so weird coming from hubba's avatar. :smt118

yeah, when I hit the submit button, I was looking at the people who posted while I was typing and I got to my post, and I thought, "sh!t, somebody already posted the link"... then I realized that I was me...

[SoMissTV]

That 75k in hubbucks was worth every fake penny...

[carsalesguy]

catfish one and jackson hewlett tax service paid for it to be aired commercial free

[carsalesguy]

did anyone see all the letters and crap behind his name that was just flashed on the screen?

[wilebill]

I've heard the Catfish One guy is a out on the fringes a little bit...

[carsalesguy]

isn't the catfish one guy mike smith.....they guy who used to own mike smith motors?

[aaron]

This post has been naturally selected to go in Off-Topic.

[wilebill]

This post has been naturally selected to go in Off-Topic.There's that humor again! :smt038

[carsalesguy]

sorry aaron....michelle was on the computer and just clicked and posted.....sorry

[aaron]

sorry aaron....michelle was on the computer and just clicked and posted.....sorry

Not a problem, takes 10 seconds to move, and the admin jokes are worth every penny of the $5 in hub bucks I get for them.

[Hermione]

I'm a believing Christian, and like my mentor C.S. Lewis also believe in physical evolution and natural selection. Lewis felt we should be more afraid of the doctrine of moral evolution, that Gene Roddenberry-esque idea that mankind is getting "better" through its own efforts. That idea is far more anti-biblical and dangerous than the belief in physical evolution, which merely describes a natural process. We must also not confuse the words "evolve" and "improve" -- they are not the same.

[carsalesguy]

I'm a believing Christian, and like my mentor C.S. Lewis also believe in physical evolution and natural selection. Lewis felt we should be more afraid of the doctrine of moral evolution, that Gene Roddenberry-esque idea that mankind is getting "better" through its own efforts. That idea is far more anti-biblical and dangerous than the belief in physical evolution, which merely describes a natural process. We must also not confuse the words "evolve" and "improve" -- they are not the same.


but why show it during law and order? can't they show it over the mt. carmel ministries show on sunday?

[aaron]

I think we're in between TV seasons now aren't we?

[Hermione]

but why show it during law and order? can't they show it over the mt. carmel ministries show on sunday?


Sorry, I wasn't commenting on the show time. I was just meditating or something (probably "or something") Can you get your program online later? I watch Lost that way sometimes.
I imagine you're not the only annoyed viewer. Those folks are preaching to the choir anyway. People who don't already agree with them aren't going to watch.

[Astra]

That's what I don't get - I could understand them putting something like this on during an empty timeslot, but it seems very unusual to replace network programming with it.

[carsalesguy]

i didn't know you could watch that stuff online.......

i'm going to try to find last weeks office

[kevin]

errrrrrr YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE PO'ED Carsalesguy!!!!!!!!!!

[SoMissTV]

I have last week's Office on tape if you want to borrow it.

For the right price, WDAM will sell you just about any timeslot you want.

[Hermione]

i didn't know you could watch that stuff online.......

i'm going to try to find last weeks office

Think it depends on the network. You can get Lost and some other ABC shows the next day online. Lost is the only one I care about, though.

[carsalesguy]

I have last week's Office on tape if you want to borrow it.




tape? i'd assumed you would say something like "i have it, i'll email it to you. beam it thru a satelite thingy on the roof over to your mexican shack on the other side of town" or something like that......

i do want to borrow it BTW....gotta see if my VCR still works :smt118

actually, you would be the last one i would think recorded stuff on tape.....

[carsalesguy]

for the record, i'm going over to talk to steve tomorrow and tell him how pissed off i am at cameron about airing some stupid crap like that.....

what if my daughter was in the room while they were showing all them heads and stuff on the TV screen.....

then i would have sued i guess.....win the TV station and air nothing but car commercials and 80's music videos........

[citygirl]

Well, I turned the channel but remember after 9:00 that I could prolly change it back and catch SVU. I missed about 30 minutes of it. Dang!

[SoMissTV]

I don't know why people are so upset; Law and Order only comes on about 2000 times a week.

[Hermione]

I don't know why people are so upset; Law and Order only comes on about 2000 times a week.

You beat me to it!!

[SoMissTV]

Carsalesguy-

I TiVo stuff off the satellite, but still have to use tape for shows that come on network TV. I was in a meeting last Thursday night; that's the only reason I taped it.

You got lucky; I don't ever tape stuff anymore.

[carsalesguy]

personally, i thought that i was a dork because i still owned a VCR, even though it is saving me $70 on a tuner that i ripped out the back end of my new JVC tv.....

[Maggie-Doodle]

The REAL question is why does WDAM do any of the stupid stuff they do? I suppose they think they have a captive audience! NOT! Or not as long as we have cable and satelites! :)

[Olohian]

The show was very good.
Schools teach evolution as if it were a fact, but it has not be proven. They brought many good points out. I really wish that lots of people watch it to make them think. One of the best statements in the show was, "if you don't believe in evolution, you must be retarded." Everyone knows that we came from monkees. - These are all lies.

Very good show.

[fuzzis]

Hmmmmm....I don't recall being taught that we come from monkeys, and I pretty firmly believe in evolution.

fuzzis

[carsalesguy]

did anyone watch cameron's viewpoint after the show? read off some crap about we want to hear what the viewing audience wants to sound off about blah blah blah...

michelle went mad when he said something about he wanted to hear about the job they were doing.....

[aaron]

The show was very good.
Schools teach evolution as if it were a fact, but it has not be proven. They brought many good points out. I really wish that lots of people watch it to make them think. One of the best statements in the show was, "if you don't believe in evolution, you must be retarded." Everyone knows that we came from monkees. - These are all lies.

Very good show.

That was a Richard Dawkins quote. Whatever happened with the intelligent design controversy that came up a while back? Can you teach that in schools or not?

[fuzzis]

That was a Richard Dawkins quote. Whatever happened with the intelligent design controversy that came up a while back? Can you teach that in schools or not?

It kinda faded into nothing. I believe the consensus is that because it is not a scientific theory, it cannot be taught in science classes alongside evolution.

fuzzis

[nooskye]

... the intelligent design ...


Isn't that just another phrase for Creation?? :smt102

[aaron]

Isn't that just another phrase for Creation?? :smt102

Basically. It implies that we were made by a more intelligent being than ourselves. It garners more support from the scientific community if you don't mention God.

[Hermione]

I get really frustrated with people who can't grasp that evolution is only a tool in God's kit. It's a process. We don't really understand how it works, and our present understanding is deeply flawed and incomplete. There have clearly been human and human-related species on the earth for a long, long, long time. We don't even know exactly when Cro-Magnon (us) appeared, or where they came from, but at some time they/us became self-aware and aware of the presence of God.
None of this makes Genesis untrue. For starters, the Days occurred before there were the sun and the moon, so a Genesis "Day" is not a 24-hour Earth day. Genesis is a story about Creation couched in poetic, sweeping terms. It's a little like the way we teach young children about reproduction. We might say "the mommy and the daddy love each other very much and give each other a special hug, and then later a baby grows." That would be completely true, without going into all the biological processes involved.The Bible does not attempt to be a scientific textbook.

[543LISTguy]

Hmmmmm....I don't recall being taught that we come from monkeys, and I pretty firmly believe in evolution.

fuzzis

speak for yourself FUZZY...i am pretty sure i came from a monkey...its the only way i can explain my climbing skills

[Maggie-Doodle]

listguy, I was gonna give you rep for that but it said I had to "spread it around!" THAT was funny! :)