Windows Vista

[SouthChic]

Wanna see what all the buzz is about Windows Vista? It's pretty cool.

Make sure to notice which football team is shown in the presentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnf-uty4w58

[carsalesguy]

watch USM on your PC running Vista, and it will crash

[aaron]

nice find

[opengl_programmer]

that video is also played at your nearest Best Buy or Circuit City, regardless if you are in Hattiesburg or not. i think it was one of the first HDTV true hi-def games on ESPN or something which is why its used everywhere...

[virgo]

Thanks for the find, Seller. That is pretty cool :)

[Kitty]

Bill Gates was on the Today Show this morning talking about tomorrow's Windows Vista launch (http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=b5db07a2-d6e5-4b98-8a3b-3f6652565079&f=05&fg=rss).

Anyone here planning to upgrade their OS to Vista?

[58ford]

I like for an OS to be out there for a little while before I upgrade.
I'd rather let other people screw up their computers before I risk mine.

[wilebill]

Bill Gates was on the Today Show this morning talking about tomorrow's Windows Vista launch (http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=b5db07a2-d6e5-4b98-8a3b-3f6652565079&f=05&fg=rss).

Anyone here planning to upgrade their OS to Vista?Not anytime soon. I'm with 58ford on this, I like to let other people be the beta testers for awhile first.

Besides, I don't have any software that requires Vista and probably won't for awhile, so there's really no point.

[aaron]

Yeah, I don't really see a good reason to upgrade. When I buy a new computer, I'll upgrade to Vista.

[Conveyor Belt]

I'm sure it does the same thing XP does, just uses more RAM.

[aaron]

Vista will simplify things for the non-technical user, that sums up most of what I have read about it.

[aether]

another example of how microsoft has dumbed computers down IMO...in 10 years people wont even know how to burn a cd or check email

[aaron]

Yeah, they will, you just double-click the easy button.

[aether]

I mean really...Im just tired of seeing Microsoft use popular tools that have been around for long before Vista and make people thing that they discovered it and then capitalize on it...especially some of the GNU stuff like 3D desktop and widgets in GNOME....

[SoMissTV]

Nope. I'm waiting for the new release of Mac OS X. :)

[wilebill]

I just like using the software. I'd hope that the OS is as transparent as possible. Windoze has always done stupid stuff, makes you jump through hoops sometimes, and wants to assume you're stupid and make stupid default choices for you. Maybe Vista won't do that, but I'm not betting on it.

I guess the thing I'm looking forward to with Vista, once I get the software and hardware, is using more than one processor/core to do some really processor intensive stuff.

[Astra]

There are days when I really miss Windows 3.11

[aether]

I hear it's worse than ever.

I tested an alpha release...believe me it is...

[aaron]

Nope. I'm waiting for the new release of Mac OS X. :)

http://4fxearth.net/phpBB2/smilies_mod/upload/1beb8b2ae6d61633f35d740313c6c610.gif

[aether]

pretty soon, if most dont already, linux distros will have all of the usability of a mac with the power of a *nix box...

[aether]

are you wireless or connected?

[aether]

have you tried the ndis wrapper? Thats the only way suse will find a NIC. Ubuntu found my wireless right out of the box...

info
http://mobile.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/17/1856218&tid=102
installation
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation

[aether]

If you are partitioned just install ubuntu right over suse...it will work just fine....do some looking into Kubuntu...its a desktop for ubuntu...probably one of the first things you want to install after ubuntu...its the KDE for ubuntu...

[aether]

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download

just choose a mirror from the United States!
version 6.10

[aether]

yep..if suse partitioned your drive already you should have a linux partition available when you install ubuntu...

[aaron]

Well, actually Kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu. That's all you'll need if you like KDE. If you would rather go with Gnome, just download Ubuntu. It's two different flavors of the same thing.

[aether]

no prob...let me know if you need any help...ubuntu is great...it just installs minimally...I learned alot here:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

[aaron]

It's not hugely different, but KDE just seems more user friendly to me. Of course, I haven't tried Gnome in a long time. Like I said though, you may want to go with Ubuntu (Gnome) because that's the version you'd be able to find a lot of information and help on.

[aether]

It's not hugely different, but KDE just seems more user friendly to me. Of course, I haven't tried Gnome in a long time. Like I said though, you may want to go with Ubuntu (Gnome) because that's the version you'd be able to find a lot of information and help on.


Then add this and you wont go back to another OS...

http://www.kubuntu.org/

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/752/4.gif

[aaron]

Then add this and you wont go back to another OS...

http://www.kubuntu.org/




Well, you wouldn't be able to add kubuntu to ubuntu. You choose between one or the other.

[dollfus46]

Not anytime soon. I'm with 58ford on this, I like to let other people be the beta testers for awhile first.

Besides, I don't have any software that requires Vista and probably won't for awhile, so there's really no point.

I think I heard that the computers operating now cant handle it. It'll be in the new computers coming out. Something like that. I'm not into that. My Millennium is fine for now, since I don't play games on it.

[aaron]

Here's a good flowchart to decide whether you need to upgrade or not.

http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2007/02/vista_upgrade_flowchart.pdf

[aether]

Well, you wouldn't be able to add kubuntu to ubuntu. You choose between one or the other.


I added Kubunu after I installed Ubuntu...I just dloaded it and installed it and then became a bootable option when I logged in. I could choose between Gnome or KDE...

[aaron]

Well, if you want KDE, then all you have to do is install Kubuntu, no Ubuntu needed. I wouldn't recommend switching between window managers, it's tough enough learning the ins and outs of one.

[threekidspa]

I think I heard that the computers operating now cant handle it. It'll be in the new computers coming out. Something like that. I'm not into that. My Millennium is fine for now, since I don't play games on it.

I'm out in San Diego this week. Not that that is all that important in itself, but I was joking with another guy here about installing Vista on our laptops, when our IT guy overheard us and had a cow, right there in the hallway. Was pretty impressive, especially after he realized we were pulling his chain.:smt038

[dorwrath]

I won't even contemplate upgrading to Vista until at least Service pack 1 comes out.

[aether]

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/02/apple_to_ipod_u.html
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=software&articleId=9010440&taxonomyId=18&intsrc=kc_top

[TheKing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY

[wilebill]

Tom's Hardware wasn't overly impressed. (http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/)

Your apps could actually run slower under Vista. If you like pretty, Vista may be for you. If you like speed and compatibility then you'd probably want to wait awhile.

[Hermione]

Aaron, I sent the link for that flowchart on to my child the systems engineer. He got a huge kick out of it, thanks!!

[aaron]

Aaron, I sent the link for that flowchart on to my child the systems engineer. He got a huge kick out of it, thanks!!

Yeah, I find geeky stuff like that all time, just because of the nature of the sites I visit. I usually try to refrain from posting them here though, not many are impressed with the geek humor.

[carsalesguy]

There are days when I really miss Windows 3.11

i was rummaging around some stuff in my dad's office and found the perfect bumper sticker.

it was from PC Computing Magazine, circa 1985-1986----

original bumper sticker that reads "I *graphic of a heart* DOS"

i wish i knew someone that could re-produce it so i can put it on my car. i don't want to use the original and it get messed up.

[Hermione]

OH wow, I first learned to use a PC using DOS 2.0. I had a computer in my office with a 40-meg hard drive. That was all the memory I could imagine ever needing.
The good thing about learning like that, though, was that it was easy to learn new software. I once inherited a little PC where hundreds of files were sitting in C:/ because the previous owner didn't know how to make directories.

[Conveyor Belt]

My first computer had 128K of memory and no hard drive. My first hard drive was 512MG. My first modem was a 600 baud.

[ynotme297]

They Bought Me A New Toshiba Laptop For Work. It Came With Vista, Guess What, It Won't Connect To My Printer. Do I Have To Get A Printer That Is Set Up For Vista, Or Is There Another Way Around This. I'm Not A Great Computer Guy So I Need Some Help. I Just Got The Printer(hp 670 All In One) 3 Months Ago. It Works Fine With My Other Toshiba That Has Windows Xp.

[Bahlk]

May want to go to the printer website and see if they have the updated Vista drivers for that printer

[Bahlk]

They Bought Me A New Toshiba Laptop For Work. It Came With Vista, Guess What, It Won't Connect To My Printer. Do I Have To Get A Printer That Is Set Up For Vista, Or Is There Another Way Around This. I'm Not A Great Computer Guy So I Need Some Help. I Just Got The Printer(hp 670 All In One) 3 Months Ago. It Works Fine With My Other Toshiba That Has Windows Xp.

Is it the deskjet 670C? If so the website says that it is not compatible with Vista.

[carsalesguy]

OH wow, I first learned to use a PC using DOS 2.0. I had a computer in my office with a 40-meg hard drive. That was all the memory I could imagine ever needing.
The good thing about learning like that, though, was that it was easy to learn new software. I once inherited a little PC where hundreds of files were sitting in C:/ because the previous owner didn't know how to make directories.

hard drive? haha.......

My first computer had 128K of memory and no hard drive. My first hard drive was 512MG. My first modem was a 600 baud.

the first PC i played on was an AT&T 6300 with monochrome green graphics and AT&T monitor...........programed with basic with it, 2 5 1/4" floppies, a: being on the bottom.......

then the 10 meg hard card came in- $1200.....

it was my dads, and really wasn't supposed to even "touch" it, but he would let me play around as long as he was in the same room-

dad said that he bought it along with the NEC Pinwriter P5 widecarrage 24 pin printer for $8700 in new orleans when he was going to tulane. bought it on canal street actually- got the optional upgrade from 128k to 256k, and the salesman told him "why do you need 256k? you will never need that?!?"

[jmb]

i was rummaging around some stuff in my dad's office and found the perfect bumper sticker.

it was from PC Computing Magazine, circa 1985-1986----

original bumper sticker that reads "I *graphic of a heart* DOS"

i wish i knew someone that could re-produce it so i can put it on my car. i don't want to use the original and it get messed up.

I have no idea about the quality, but you can get one made at cafepress.com. http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/designer.aspx

[carsalesguy]

MY first machine was a microlab 286, with dual floppies, 1 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 floppies, booted with DOS 3.1 on the 5 1/4, 1 meg of ram, 1 meg of video. only $4600, while his 386 that he just bought was a good $7500.

SoMissTV remembers, i think----BUT

we had a wang donated from FGH to our tech ed. class at rowan---i took the massive winchester maxtor HDD out of it, slammed it into the 286, and i beleve i had to get a controller card from his dad to run it---

called maxtor and it formatted down to a whole 60 megs---took 2 drive bays for this thing to mount. sounded like an aircraft taking off during spin up. loaded win 3.11 on it, and was in heaven. would get NASA photos from him and load them on my PC. Oh, the days!

[SoMissTV]

The first modem that we had was for my dad to dial into USM's network. It had a cradle on the top where you put the handset from a standard Bell system telephone, as this modem was built right after AT&T was deregulated and most people did not yet have RJ11 jacks in their walls.

[carsalesguy]

The first modem that we had was for my dad to dial into USM's network. It had a cradle on the top where you put the handset from a standard Bell system telephone, as this modem was built right after AT&T was deregulated and most people did not yet have RJ11 jacks in their walls.

you had parts of a nuclear device heating and cooling your house. i don't think anyone has/had any of that either

[ynotme297]

if i already have vista, can i get windows xp and load onto my computer also. like i said, i'm not very smart with computers. if i can, does anyone have xp that i can borrow?

[ynotme297]

sure you can dual boot it ,but I read an article that said vista is not a very good bed buddy.

man that really sucks. i really need a printer and that piece of crap won't let me use one. i know one thing, the computer is slow as molasses in winter.

[TheKing]

anybody who takes the gamble of their fears and actually switches to an apple machine running os x will have free lifetime support from me

i am willing to offer this cause once you get it and get used to its operation...you wont really need support

[SoMissTV]

anybody who takes the gamble of their fears and actually switches to an apple machine running os x will have free lifetime support from me

i am willing to offer this cause once you get it and get used to its operation...you wont really need support

I have two Apples, and I'm now directing all of my technical support questions to you. :smt038

[SoMissTV]

Firefox occasionally stops working correctly after my MBP has been put to sleep several times. Pages stop loading correctly, and I can no longer type within the program. Why is this?

[aaron]

Firefox occasionally stops working correctly after my MBP has been put to sleep several times. Pages stop loading correctly, and I can no longer type within the program. Why is this?

lol, obviously you haven't read theKing's Terms of Service or EULA.

[carsalesguy]

Firefox occasionally stops working correctly after my MBP has been put to sleep several times. Pages stop loading correctly, and I can no longer type within the program. Why is this?

it's quite an easy fix.

anyone with any knowledge knows that a mac is a mac.

when a mac messes up, it's done.

if you have a PC, then all you do is kick it, run a dummy install CD, and keep going.

porn works better on a PC BTW- most of the movies are played with Windows Media Player. iTunes and quicktime don't like WMA......


just a small reminder also- microsoft owns the world.


DUH!

[TheKing]

Firefox occasionally stops working correctly after my MBP has been put to sleep several times. Pages stop loading correctly, and I can no longer type within the program. Why is this?

memory leaks

[TheKing]

it's quite an easy fix.

anyone with any knowledge knows that a mac is a mac.

when a mac messes up, it's done.

if you have a PC, then all you do is kick it, run a dummy install CD, and keep going.

porn works better on a PC BTW- most of the movies are played with Windows Media Player. iTunes and quicktime don't like WMA......


just a small reminder also- microsoft owns the world.


DUH!

windows media player doesnt like .mov files either...theyre all proprietary

that said...you can get windows media player on the mac and its actually not that bad...its definitely more lean and more efficient than the bloatware windows counterpart

or you can just use http://www.videolan.org/ to play it

[SoMissTV]

memory leaks

Okay. I've superglued every vent in the chassis of the computer... will this stop those leaks?

[TheKing]

LOL!

yes...yes i think it will

one of the drawbacks to firefox on both platforms is that it has memory leaking issues after extended program uptime

its not on everybodys machine but it is on some...

just make it a point to restart firefox from time to time and youll be okay