Petal Officer buying drinks for underage?

[Omerto]

Interesting post I just read on the HA forums (http://forums.hattiesburgamerican.com/viewtopic.php?t=2880).

[Pop]

"If this is true" the breaking of the law was by the bartender or waitress and the alleged officer as well as the minor.

I remember years ago the management of that particular establishment used to invite the Mississippi A.B.C with Jimmy Dale and Mark Hicks to come and do a sting on underage drinkers.

This help them control the kids and things like adult men buying drinks for 18, 19 and 20 yr old girls. Worked too after a couple guys got tickets they were aware that there are consequences to contributing to a minor.

[daisy]

If that is true it is inappropriate and tacky. What is the legal drinking age--21??? I get liquor and cigarettes mixed up.

There used to be a $500 fine from ABC for servers or lockup or both and I know some establishments have lost their license or been closed after enough violations.

I am not sure I believe everything I read. That person may not like that officer or be jealous of him?????????

[fuzzis]

This whole topic makes me *extremely* uncomfortable. I'm not saying it didn't happen because I don't know, but I don't like dragging an officer (ora anyone really) through the mud on the strength of maybe and possibly.

I'd like it a lot of aaron made this thread disappear.

fuzzis

[aaron]

If it were up to me, I'd rather not have these kinds of threads here. I won't delete it because I don't like deleting threads, this is a community-driven site, but I'm certainly not going to discuss it. Of course, if it were up to me, every thread would be constructive, not destructive.

[daisy]

Thanks Aaron. To remind me -what do you mean by constructive and not destructive? Destructive or sensational is oftentimes more interesting. But, it is destructive.:smt102

[Tommy9854]

I know who it is that is in question. I don't know about the whole "buying drinks" thing, but the girl was 17 years old last year and took a 27 year old to the high school prom. He was asked to either resign his position or to break their relationship off when the police office found out he was dating a minor and he chose to resign, then a few months later they broke up. This girl also has a history of going to clubs as well.

[daisy]

I know who it is that is in question. I don't know about the whole "buying drinks" thing, but the girl was 17 years old last year and took a 27 year old to the high school prom. He was asked to either resign his position or to break their relationship off when the police office found out he was dating a minor and he chose to resign, then a few months later they broke up. This girl also has a history of going to clubs as well.

My parents would have had a problem with me taking someone that old to the prom.:smt102 I mean that is 10 years older and I would only be a teen.

[Astra]

If that is true it is inappropriate and tacky. What is the legal drinking age--21??? I get liquor and cigarettes mixed up.
You have to be 21 to buy alcohol and 18 to buy cigarettes.

[Tommy9854]

My parents would have had a problem with me taking someone that old to the prom.:smt102 I mean that is 10 years older and I would only be a teen.

Then he went to an after prom party where there were 300+ people and got drunk and was trying to start fights with some of the teens.

[aaron]

Thanks Aaron. To remind me -what do you mean by constructive and not destructive? Destructive or sensational is oftentimes more interesting. But, it is destructive.:smt102

It's the difference between being positive and being negative. You can disagree with someone and still offer positive constructive comments. Your right, destructive sells though, and those kinds of threads probably built this forum. Don't get me wrong, no one is going to banned for any of this. As admin though, I like to live in my little world over here where the community if full of love and friendship :)

[carsalesguy]

i believe that SoMissTV posted a post a while back saying that it was ok to serve an 18 year old drinks if they were with someone 21 and over....

i may be wrong, but i remember something funny about that in the ABC policies, etc

[virgo]

i believe that SoMissTV posted a post a while back saying that it was ok to serve an 18 year old drinks if they were with someone 21 and over....

i may be wrong, but i remember something funny about that in the ABC policies, etc

That can't be right. Not unless they changed a law since I was there. In fact, there was a charge for that -- contributing to the delinquency of a minor (minor is this case would be anyone under 21).

[IGID]

If you're with a parent or guardian, a person under 21 can be in a over 21 bar, but they still cannot drink alcohol.

[Conveyor Belt]

I thought hawkeye said the law wasn't applicable to beer sales. you can't buy at 18, but your parent or gaurdian can buy beer for you and you can legally consume it. I'm sure it doesn't pertain to hard liquor.

[SoMissTV]

i believe that SoMissTV posted a post a while back

It wasn't me; I think it was Hawkeye.

[drew t]

This whole topic makes me *extremely* uncomfortable. I'm not saying it didn't happen because I don't know, but I don't like dragging an officer (ora anyone really) through the mud on the strength of maybe and possibly.

I'd like it a lot of aaron made this thread disappear.

fuzzis

How is the officer being dragged through the mud if the original posts refused to give his name? I too, like Tommy, know who this post is talking about. I have a daughter who goes to Petal and this girl is a senior in high school. And.....this is not a 22 or 23 year old cop. This is more like a 30 year old cop. Regardless of whether or not he bought her a drink....which I believe he did.......shouldn't the department have some policy about their employees dating minors?? This is the 2nd policeman she has dated. She was in 11th grade when she dated the 27 year old.

[pEtAl pUrr-Dog]

Whether we ALL know who this officer is or not, Whether we all figure it out by who is dating who.... This guy should not be talked so horrible about.

He is still an officer and has done nothing wrong until someone can PROVE it. Remember guys, a coke at ropers comes in the same glass as a mixed drink.

[Hermione]

Does this little girl have parents??

[threekidspa]

Does this little girl have parents??

Maybe a call to them would be helpful...I'd certainly be interested if it were one of my daughters, and I wouldn't care if it was a policeman or not. But then, I hope I'm raising them to not be interested in even getting involved in a situation like this.

Someone mentioned earlier if there was a policy about dating minors....isn't it simply against the law?

[fuzzis]

Does this little girl have parents??

More importantly, are men really that stupid? (I already know the answer to that. The former boy, at 33 dated an 18 year old. *sigh* And then he wondered why she had "issues" :smt119 )

fuzzis

[Maggie-Doodle]

Dating wise IF the girl is 18 yoa she is no longer a minor!

[58ford]

Just a little info:

§ 97-3-65. Statutory rape; enhanced penalty for forcible sexual intercourse or statutory rape by administering certain substances.

(1) The crime of statutory rape is committed when:

(a) Any person seventeen (17) years of age or older has sexual intercourse with a child who:

(i) Is at least fourteen (14) but under sixteen (16) years of age;

(ii) Is thirty-six (36) or more months younger than the person; and

(iii) Is not the person's spouse; or

(b) A person of any age has sexual intercourse with a child who:

(i) Is under the age of fourteen (14) years;

(ii) Is twenty-four (24) or more months younger than the person; and

(iii) Is not the person's spouse.

(2) Neither the victim's consent nor the victim's lack of chastity is a defense to a charge of statutory rape.

(3) Upon conviction for statutory rape, the defendant shall be sentenced as follows:

(a) If eighteen (18) years of age or older, but under twenty-one (21) years of age, and convicted under paragraph (1)(a) of this section, to imprisonment for not more than five (5) years in the State Penitentiary or a fine of not more than Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or both;

(b) If twenty-one (21) years of age or older and convicted under paragraph (1)(a) of this section, to imprisonment of not more than thirty (30) years in the State Penitentiary or a fine of not more than Ten Thousand Dollars ($10,000.00), or both, for the first offense, and not more than forty (40) years in the State Penitentiary for each subsequent offense;

(c) If eighteen (18) years of age or older and convicted under paragraph (1)(b) of this section, to imprisonment for life in the State Penitentiary or such lesser term of imprisonment as the court may determine, but not less than twenty (20) years.

(d) If thirteen (13) years of age or older but under eighteen (18) years of age and convicted under paragraph (1)(a) or (1)(b) of this section, such imprisonment, fine or other sentence as the court, in its discretion, may determine.

(4) (a) Every person who shall have forcible sexual intercourse with any person, or who shall have sexual intercourse not constituting forcible sexual intercourse or statutory rape with any person without that person's consent by administering to such person any substance or liquid which shall produce such stupor or such imbecility of mind or weakness of body as to prevent effectual resistance, upon conviction, shall be imprisoned for life in the State Penitentiary if the jury by its verdict so prescribes; and in cases where the jury fails to fix the penalty at life imprisonment, the court shall fix the penalty at imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for any term as the court, in its discretion, may determine.

(b) This subsection (4) shall apply whether the perpetrator is married to the victim or not.

(5) In all cases where a victim is under the age of sixteen (16) years, it shall not be necessary to prove penetration where it is shown the genitals, anus or perineum of the child have been lacerated or torn in the attempt to have sexual intercourse with the child.

(6) For the purposes of this section, "sexual intercourse" shall mean a joining of the sexual organs of a male and female human being in which the penis of the male is inserted into the vagina of the female.

§ 97-3-69. Rape; "chaste character" presumed; uncorroborated testimony of victim insufficient.

In the trial of all cases under the last preceding section, it shall be presumed that the female was previously of chaste character, and the burden shall be upon the defendant to show that she was not; but no person shall be convicted upon the uncorroborated testimony of the injured female.

[IGID]

I'm not sure why the rape statute was posted, but if she's dating him and out with him in Ropers, I don't think she's not consenting to whatever happens when they leave and 18 is not considered a minor in Ms..

[Tommy9854]

Whether we ALL know who this officer is or not, Whether we all figure it out by who is dating who.... This guy should not be talked so horrible about.

He is still an officer and has done nothing wrong until someone can PROVE it. Remember guys, a coke at ropers comes in the same glass as a mixed drink.

He isn't getting talked so "horrible" about. It's FACTS....I did leave out the part where he was divorced and has 2 kids, but I figured it was bad enough that he was dating an 18 year old. How does a 30 yo start talking to an 18 year old?

[Tommy9854]

More importantly, are men really that stupid? (I already know the answer to that. The former boy, at 33 dated an 18 year old. *sigh* And then he wondered why she had "issues" :smt119 )

fuzzis

Mom doesn't care, dad is under impression that it is "just a friend".

[SoMissTV]

How does a 30 yo start talking to an 18 year old?

Hey! That sounds like the setup to a really bad joke. MyHattiesburgers, any of you want to take a stab at this one?

How does a 30 year old start talking to an 18 year old?

[threekidspa]

Mom doesn't care, dad is under impression that it is "just a friend".

The man is a fool. 30 something guys don't hang around with teen age girls in bars just to be 'friends'.

[pEtAl mIsFiT]

my dad would never allowed me to have a male friend that much older than me, NEVER!

I don't want my daughter to ever date... good lord

[nooskye]

Last time I served alcohol I was told that the fine could be up to $1500.00 and/or jail time.

As far as the underage thing in bars goes ... it's *suppose* to be 18 to get in 21 to party ... but, take my .... ummmm .... experience?? Just about *every* club around here serves alcohol to underage individuals ... Ropers, Fat Harry's, Sports Rock, St. Elmos ... all the way back to Senor Frog. Believe it or not, Memories II is the *ONLY* club, not bar, club that you have to be, I think 25? to get in. Just go check out some of their servers myspace pages ... you'd all be shocked at what you would find :smt103 Bless their hearts, the ABC tries to keep it under control ... but they can't check every single person, on every single night, of every single weekend for age requirements ... who ever is on their doors should be held responsible for letting them in to begin with ... which, unfortunately, is normally a thick, good looking man wearing a Security Shirt ... flirting with these very same "youngins" we are all making such a fuss about ... and you can bet your last red cent that the server chicks are doing the exact same thing with underage boys. That and in the State of MS, you can start serving at 18 ... other states won't allow your license (yes, license) until you are 21. If you can serve ... you're gonna drink *and* get *all* of your little friends in to drink as well.

For the little High School chick ... IMO if she carried one to her prom ... the parents already know what she's up to ... and technically, if she's 18 ... she's no longer a minor in that sense ... she's a legal adult who can vote, live on her own, enter into a contract and fight and die for her country ... so she likes a man in uniform :smt102 what female doesn't??? :smt118 On a side note ... the State regulates the age of consent at 14 ... What is that saying about our condolences (sp) towards minors having sex??

[Hermione]

She's 18, according to an earlier post, so she's not a minor, but as a high school student you would think parents would care about this behavior.

[nooskye]

Hey! That sounds like the setup to a really bad joke. MyHattiesburgers, any of you want to take a stab at this one?

How does a 30 year old start talking to an 18 year old?

In Da Club ... LoL!!! :smt082 :smt081 :smt046 Just ask the hubby :smt103

The girl he was dating before me was 18 ... hahahahahahaha ... silly lil girl ... I still haven't figured out what she thought she could give him ... I already *know* why he was with her ... :smt118

[pEtAl pUrr-Dog]

He isn't getting talked so "horrible" about. It's FACTS....I did leave out the part where he was divorced and has 2 kids, but I figured it was bad enough that he was dating an 18 year old. How does a 30 yo start talking to an 18 year old?


I agree with you about the age thing... It just upsets me when someone is getting so slandered and there is no PROOF of wrong doing. sorry...

[pEtAl pUrr-Dog]

She's 18, according to an earlier post, so she's not a minor, but as a high school student you would think parents would care about this behavior.
She maybe a college student at 18. I graduated at 17 and was on my own, out of my parents house at 18....

[pEtAl mIsFiT]

Well as long as my kids live under my roof I will still be in control.

[Tommy9854]

She maybe a college student at 18. I graduated at 17 and was on my own, out of my parents house at 18....

She's a sr.

[virgo]

The man is a fool. 30 something guys don't hang around with teen age girls in bars just to be 'friends'.

Not if you're noway :) :smt118

[daisy]

More importantly, are men really that stupid? (I already know the answer to that. The former boy, at 33 dated an 18 year old. *sigh* And then he wondered why she had "issues" :smt119 )

fuzzis

Fuzzis, when I was in Yosemite and homesick one winter a visiting ranger from Mississipi was there working on his vacation. We dated and I was with him and another ranger one night sitting around after the slide show they did. I guess the Ms. Ranger wanted me to know just because a guy's in law-enforcement and wears a ranger outfit he could be a scuzbag. These 2 rangers talked about some of the tales of fellow rangers up at Quantico when they were there. One was a guy dating a 14 yr. old. The Ms. Ranger really tried to impress this on me. I heard him. I also know a lot of law-enforcement guys are good, honorable men.

Well, back to the situation of this supposed guy dating the 18 yr. old and he is divorced and his employer doesn't care and her parents are fine with it, oh well.

I went back and read all the posts around that one and unless you saw the bartender put alchohol in it, it could have been a coke or sprite.

[selmore]

i didnt read the whole post. did anyone ask if she was his daughter?

[daisy]

i didnt read the whole post. did anyone ask if she was his daughter?

Let's say he is 30 and she is 18. Probably not.

[selmore]

assuming 30's accurate

[selmore]

thx daisy i finally read the post and i change my opinion.

now my opinion is 'GREAT, thats a smart girl, shes dating someone with a job.

oh, and tell the nosey internet rumor starting neighbor to mind her own B

[Omerto]

It's not a rumor that he's dating her.

[daisy]

It's not a rumor that he's dating her.


Back to the thread, is it against Petal Police deprtment for their police to date someone in high school? I know when you look at the law it appears ok . Something about it doesn't seem right.

I know some schools have policies in place where the teachers are not to date students. I know it happens and is often overlooked. My views on it have changed as I have gotten older. I saw nothing wrong with it when I was in high school.

[EricStratton]

Back to the thread, is it against Petal Police deprtment for their police to date someone in high school? I know when you look at the law it appears ok . Something about it doesn't seem right.

I know some schools have policies in place where the teachers are not to date students. I know it happens and is often overlooked. My views on it have changed as I have gotten older. I saw nothing wrong with it when I was in high school.

This is Petal we're talking about!:)

[Omerto]

Back to the thread, is it against Petal Police deprtment for their police to date someone in high school? I know when you look at the law it appears ok . Something about it doesn't seem right.

I know some schools have policies in place where the teachers are not to date students. I know it happens and is often overlooked. My views on it have changed as I have gotten older. I saw nothing wrong with it when I was in high school.

I wouldn't think it would be against department policy but I would think it would be frowned upon.

[Tommy9854]

Back to the thread, is it against Petal Police deprtment for their police to date someone in high school? I know when you look at the law it appears ok . Something about it doesn't seem right.

I know some schools have policies in place where the teachers are not to date students. I know it happens and is often overlooked. My views on it have changed as I have gotten older. I saw nothing wrong with it when I was in high school.

When she was 17 and was dating the 27 year old, I know they made him either break up with her or quit his job. I think that was just because she was a minor though.

Truth be told. There is another cop that is/was dating a senior as well. A firefighter is also dating a sr. The girl in question also dated a paramedic as well.

[Maggie-Doodle]

IF these girls parents are letting their daughter(s) under 18 date someone that much older than the girl..it doesn't say much for their parenting skills! After they reach 18 their is not a whole lot they can say...BUT like someone else said "IF they live under my roof, they will do as I say regardless of age!

These are the parents who sit back and bad mouth the guys or yell rape WHEN the girl(s) come up pregnant or with and std! IMO thought it doesn't say a whole hell of a lot for the guys smarts either! His brains must have fell from his head to his crotch!

[Engelbert Humperdinck]

When she was 17 and was dating the 27 year old, I know they made him either break up with her or quit his job. I think that was just because she was a minor though.

Truth be told. There is another cop that is/was dating a senior as well. A firefighter is also dating a sr. The girl in question also dated a paramedic as well.

You seem to know a great deal about this situation. How is that? Are you involved in this someway or a confidant of one of the actors? It's easy to post here and get things all stirred up, with no idea of who the poster might be. That said, I've ran into a number of teenage badge bunnies, and they should be avoided like the plague.

[daisy]

You seem to know a great deal about this situation. How is that? Are you involved in this someway or a confidant of one of the actors? It's easy to post here and get things all stirred up, with no idea of who the poster might be. That said, I've ran into a number of teenage badge bunnies, and they should be avoided like the plague.

Teenage Badge Bunnies, that sounds like it should be in a song. That is funny and evidently like a groupie. A lot of women like men in uniforms and the power. However I don't think Mcdonald's and Burger King does it for them.

[daisy]

You seem to know a great deal about this situation. How is that? Are you involved in this someway or a confidant of one of the actors? It's easy to post here and get things all stirred up, with no idea of who the poster might be. That said, I've ran into a number of teenage badge bunnies, and they should be avoided like the plague.

Some of the people move in different groups than I and after being on here on a while I can get a feel for who is real and who is stirring for their own means. Petal is a smaller city and people usually can keep up more whenever knows everybody. Even I here in big ole Hattiesburg can find out if this is true from talking to Petal friends. I don't think stirring is going on on here--just listening to the grapevine. In a smaller city like Petal the info is more manageable.

[Engelbert Humperdinck]

Some of the people move in different groups than I and after being on here on a while I can get a feel for who is real and who is stirring for their own means. Petal is a smaller city and people usually can keep up more whenever knows everybody. Even I here in big ole Hattiesburg can find out if this is true from talking to Petal friends. I don't think stirring is going on on here--just listening to the grapevine. In a smaller city like Petal the info is more manageable.

Please, don’t get me wrong. I wasn’t trying to be accusatory to the poster. I know all too well about the grapevine of a small town of which you speak. I also know, that things can get twisted in short order unless you’re a part of the action, or VERY close. It’s like the game we played in summer camp, where you whisper a secret to one person and they pass it on down the line. It never came out the same as it started. In this instance, I was just wanted to know if the poster was a close friend to anyone involved in this situation or possibly where he/she came across the information.

[Tommy9854]

You seem to know a great deal about this situation. How is that? Are you involved in this someway or a confidant of one of the actors? It's easy to post here and get things all stirred up, with no idea of who the poster might be. That said, I've ran into a number of teenage badge bunnies, and they should be avoided like the plague.

I'm not going to sit here and spell out everything like I am getting interrogated. I know what I know, if you choose to believe it or not, so be it.

[daisy]

Please, don’t get me wrong. I wasn’t trying to be accusatory to the poster. I know all too well about the grapevine of a small town of which you speak. I also know, that things can get twisted in short order unless you’re a part of the action, or VERY close. It’s like the game we played in summer camp, where you whisper a secret to one person and they pass it on down the line. It never came out the same as it started. In this instance, I was just wanted to know if the poster was a close friend to anyone involved in this situation or possibly where he/she came across the information.

Thank you for clarifying that. I misunderstood and apologize for reacting that way. You got me.

[daisy]

These girls involved are way more mature than I. When I was 16 a guy was interested in me and he was 24. Problem to me at the time --he was divorced and had twin 2 yr. olds. Children were something I got paid to babyysit for extra spending money and I knew that was out of my league. I am glad I found this out before he called me and asked me out.

I had no desire to date someone with kids at that time. He also sent a ring to school saying he loved me and to go steady. I declined and I ran the other way from that situation. Oh, I forgot to mention I met him at a party and flirted with him since he was a friend of a guy dating my friend.


Someone asked how does an older guy start a conversation with someone that age. Very easily if that's what they're looking for. Opportunities galore.

:smt006

[virgo]

That said, I've ran into a number of teenage badge bunnies, and they should be avoided like the plague.

LOL. You are very right. But it's not just the underage badge bunnies that LE officers should watch out for....