PETA Vegans & Meat

[58ford]

I just visited PETA's website & saw their two week vegan menu.
something occurred to me, every daily menu except for one included at least one meat substitute or faux meat. If they are truly against eating critters for moral reasons shouldn't they go balls to the wall & just stick with vegetables instead of trying to make up alternatives to the meat they, so obviously, crave?
http://vegcooking.com/veganMenus-14.asp

[big john]

I hate those petaphiles.

[TheKing]

yeah thats alwyas been a big hangup with me and vegetarians

i dated a girl for 3 years...she and her family were vegetarians but constantly eating the meat substitutes...and i was constantly asking what the point was...

especially since they werent vegetarians for animal cruelty reasons

religious vegetarians are the worst...especially when you order a bacon spud from mcallisters the first time you go out with the fam.

[big john]

vegetables dont even have a chance to run away,not very sporting!

[EricStratton]

Vegans? Aren't those the space people that used to eat rats on NBC?

[Fish-Bait]

I'm sure somebody got offended by this.SORRY.kinda.
Whatever....:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Conveyor Belt]

My guess, 58, would be that they're trying to show you that you can eat stuff that's kind of like meat, but not really. Or you can go vegan and still live a lifestyle that's sort of like what you're currently living.

A lot of recipes in cookbooks call for meat or animal products, and if you have a variety of substitutions for these situations, it makes eating easier and makes you feel like less of an outcast.

I eat vegan for health reasons. I get cravings for meat, but when I eat it, it's just not as good as I remembered. Looking at those sickly, shit covered chickens being shipped into marshal durbin is enough to keep me away from poultry for life.

I'm not out to convert people to veganism. It's not an easy thing to do, and you have to give up a lot of stuff that just plain tastes good. It's a choice I choose to make and it works for me.

[carsalesguy]

don't like fish here

[EricStratton]

I used to know some "real" Vegans in college....nothing but herb and Cheetoh's

[big john]

If i had to eat shit covered chickens,I would be one nem veganatarians too.eeeeeewww!

[Fish-Bait]

It's all pulled from the Mother Earth anyway. It's just one big "Circle of Life".

[HorseWhisperer]

My ag teacher says PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals

[58ford]

My guess, 58, would be that they're trying to show you that you can eat stuff that's kind of like meat, but not really. Or you can go vegan and still live a lifestyle that's sort of like what you're currently living.

A lot of recipes in cookbooks call for meat or animal products, and if you have a variety of substitutions for these situations, it makes eating easier and makes you feel like less of an outcast.

I eat vegan for health reasons. I get cravings for meat, but when I eat it, it's just not as good as I remembered. Looking at those sickly, shit covered chickens being shipped into marshal durbin is enough to keep me away from poultry for life.

I'm not out to convert people to veganism. It's not an easy thing to do, and you have to give up a lot of stuff that just plain tastes good. It's a choice I choose to make and it works for me.
i was speaking specifically of PETA type vegans that promote the diet as a political & moral thing. I understand the health aspects of a proper vegetarian diet. I just don't understand why they call some stuff "meat" with parenthases why not just call it gray mushy stuff?

[Conveyor Belt]

i was speaking specifically of PETA type vegans that promote the diet as a political & moral thing. I understand the health aspects of a proper vegetarian diet. I just don't understand why they call some stuff "meat" with parenthases why not just call it gray mushy stuff?

I don't understand PETA type vegans either. I have leather in my shoes and use animal products in life.

I guess it's just easier to call it 'meat'...

What's hard for me is fitting in... I'm economically conservative, sexually liberal, against abortion, pro guns, pro death penalty, vegan but don't mind killing animals... no wonder I don't have any friends... there's no one as weird as me!

[bpitt]

I never get it with those types. I mean, I understand treating animals responsibly, but don't go telling me we shouldn't eat them. I mean, God DID put US in dominion over THEM, right?

[Hermione]

Actually, you (CB) sound a little like my son. He did a vegan diet for about a year due to health issues. Lost a lot of weight and was able to go off some serious pain meds (including Enbrel) -- still keeps red meat consumption to a minimum. Btw, it's lots easier to do the vegan diet on the west coast than here. More choices.

[Freedom Fighter]

My ag teacher says PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals

Gee, how original. The idiot probably thinks they're all "commies," too.

[Astra]

Funny this comes up. My boyfriend found this shirt (http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/store/product.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302028484&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442157221&bmUID=1179455734232) the other day and was telling me he was tempted to wear it around one of the other guys in his company. He's a vegan, but of the annoying militant variety and he can't just leave his carnivorous comrades alone about their diet choices. I'd think trying to keep a balanced strict vegan diet would be a little tough in Iraq, but maybe that's part of why he's so irritable. Anyway, the shirt's horrible, but it made me laugh.

While I totally understand the various reasons people might choose vegan diets, I have always been amused by how so much vegan food is made to look like meat. Like CB said, it does make sense that some products are made to substitute for meat in recipes, but I'm thinking about the vegan "BBQ chicken breasts" I've seen in the frozen food aisle. It's like they're trying too hard and the resulting product is just gross-looking.

[TheBee]

I think a lot of the thinking behind meat-esque vegetarian/vegan products is that a lot of folks who stop eating meat do so even though they still enjoy the taste of meat and miss it, but either they can't (for health reasons) or feel morally opposed to (spiritual, lifestyle reasons) go back to eating it. I've been a vegetarian for 10 years now because of spiritual reasons, and there are times I still miss tuna. Like, from a can, with mayo, on white bread. It's kind of sad, but if I could find a good Morningstar Farms Chicken of the Sea substitute, I'd be on it like white on rice. Those of you who say the meat-looking veg products look gross are absolutely right. I don't think I could ever eat a Morningstar Farms riblet, or whatever the hell it's called. But I think it's a comfort thing, really. We're in a strongly meat-based food culture, and it's hard to get away from it, even if you make the choice to. Not to make a huge generalization, but a lot of us were raised on meat, so it can be difficult to make the switch from it to strictly vegetables. Things like fake chicken nuggets, gross as they sound (and trust me, they're no grosser than the real thing!) help in some strange way.

[Conveyor Belt]

I don't think I could ever eat a Morningstar Farms riblet, or whatever the hell it's called.

The riblets are pretty good, actually. If you put them on bread with some pickles and onions, you've to a McRib. The texture isn't quite as firm as a McRib, but taste is dead on. Good with some baked fries or baked chips.

As for tuna, have you tried any of the tuna substitue recipies? I personally haven't had any, but I've read that they're pretty good. I've got the site marked on my desktop, and when I get to it, I'll post the recipie for you in there.

[58ford]

Gee, how original. The idiot probably thinks they're all "commies," too.
They are.

[TheBee]

I'm not sure about the PETA folks, but I prefer "pinko", ford. :)

[Freedom Fighter]

They are.

Why stop there, Bubba? Why not call them "domestic terrrrrrists" or "enemy combatants?" You KNOW you wanna. I've never seen so many people get their collective panties in a wad over what some people CHOOSE to eat. Just shaddup and eat your feces-covered, hormone- and antibiotic-filled, factory-farmed animals. Now, THERE'S a diet of champions for ya.

[EricStratton]

I've seen enough....I'm calling it:

Freedom Fighter is a SoMiss alias.

[Freedom Fighter]

I've seen enough....I'm calling it:

Freedom Fighter is a SoMiss alias.

Negative on that. I just registered a few days ago and I'm not connected with anyone else here. Try tilting your tin foil hat to the right a little.

[BIGJOHN]

I can't see going through life without ever tasting this.
http://www.sydneymate.com/store/stuffed-animal-toy/stuffed-possum/free-picture/possum_toy1.jpg

[EricStratton]

Hey,that's good stuff.

A Pistol Ridge delicacy!

[B.T. Justice]

Why stop there, Bubba? Why not call them "domestic terrrrrrists" or "enemy combatants?" You KNOW you wanna. I've never seen so many people get their collective panties in a wad over what some people CHOOSE to eat. Just shaddup and eat your feces-covered, hormone- and antibiotic-filled, factory-farmed animals. Now, THERE'S a diet of champions for ya.

Or why mot call them freedom fighters? And you bring up a good point; why does PETA care what I eat?

[58ford]

I think I'll come up with some of my own recipes, for synthetic vegetables, like Veal carrots, and Hamburger potatoes. Then I can go on a veg free diet but still enjoy all the yummy veggies I crave.

[EricStratton]

Have any of you watched that CNN special by Dr Sanji Guza (sp) about the E-coli on fresh cut and bagged veggies? Make me never buy the supposedly clean and ready to eat leafy salad greens in the cello bags, again. Head lettuce only for me from now on.

Dr Sanji went to a lab and they ran experiments on spinach that had e-coli on it. They washed it in water, water with clorine, the commercial vegtable washes available, and combinations of the above, washing the spinach 3 times. None of it would kill all the e-coli on the leaf once the colonies have established. Cooking was the only way to kill it.

I watched that late last night/early morning. What bothered me the most was the FDA (?) guy who couldn't really give Sanji a direct answer about how all these salad greens are inspected. It is surprising....well, not really....I guess disturbing at what a small percentage of these greens are inspected.

[58ford]

I just finished me off some "Faux Broccoli" (aka ham) much safer than the e-coli infested so called real broccoli.