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TheKing
05-16-2007, 03:56 PM
It has been cool to dog on scientology on the intarweb for quite some time now, and it has always had its surges of popularity...

Well...another surge is upon us.

There is a ton of videos to watch regarding the farce that is scientology...

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=XENUTV

This guy has a ton of videos to watch...and it makes a ton of sense.

http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/

That is also another good thing to check out...

Maybe I wont get 'Fair Game' status for having posted this... Xenu help me!

EricStratton
05-16-2007, 04:06 PM
It has been cool to dog on scientology on the intarweb for quite some time now, and it has always had its surges of popularity...

Well...another surge is upon us.

There is a ton of videos to watch regarding the farce that is scientology...

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=XENUTV

This guy has a ton of videos to watch...and it makes a ton of sense.

http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/

That is also another good thing to check out...

Maybe I wont get 'Fair Game' status for having posted this... Xenu help me!

Hey, I don't care...If it's good enough for Vinny Barberino and Cole Trickle, it's good enough for me.

58ford
05-16-2007, 04:17 PM
I wonder how many Xenus you can post on one page?
Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu, Xenu.........

Whoa, I almost pulled SoMissTV.

TheKing
05-16-2007, 04:23 PM
Hey, I don't care...If it's good enough for Vinny Barberino and Cole Trickle, it's good enough for me.

ya know...i tend to agree with you when it comes down to leaving people alone with certain beliefs

but man...this whole 'Fair Game' thing...going out of their way to destroy peoples reputatno and character...

i mean...did you see the one where they were picketing outside this guys house...simply because he participated in an anti-scientology rally?

amanda
05-16-2007, 04:35 PM
Have you ever read a L. Ron Hubbard book? They are as weird as the institution he created.

amanda
05-16-2007, 04:52 PM
I tried to read that first one a long time ago but I've never dropped acid, so it made no sense.


That's what I'm talking about. :-D Neither does Scientology. At least to me.

EricStratton
05-16-2007, 05:00 PM
Watching the fooltube, I get the notion that it's a doom's day survivalist and money laundering cult for the rich.

Yeah, but don't you get to ride in a spaceship when you die? Take that, Hey-zoos!

SoMissTV
05-16-2007, 05:03 PM
Whoa, I almost pulled SoMissTV.

poop.

58ford
05-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Check this out.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://user.tninet.se/~haj197g/xenu2.GIF&imgrefurl=http://user.tninet.se/~haj197g/xenu_illustrated.html&h=345&w=589&sz=43&hl=en&start=38&tbnid=0XUXt4ZCpAvniM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3DXenu%26start%3D20%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D 20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

EricStratton
05-16-2007, 05:09 PM
I had a dude tell me one time that he could send me into outer space for $20.....wisely, I declined.

EricStratton
05-16-2007, 05:51 PM
You weren't in Pistol Ridge at the time were ya?

No. Baxterville....an entirely different kind of place.

TheKing
05-16-2007, 05:52 PM
you shut your mouth about baxterville!

TheKing
05-16-2007, 06:23 PM
hahahaha

strat im just kidding

im all too aware of the negativity of baxterville...its not a bad place...its just not a good place

EricStratton
05-16-2007, 06:56 PM
hahahaha

strat im just kidding

im all too aware of the negativity of baxterville...its not a bad place...its just not a good place

How many scientologists live in Baxterville?

CircusRide
05-16-2007, 08:04 PM
Hey, I don't care...If it's good enough for Vinny Barberino and Cole Trickle, it's good enough for me.

Cole Trickle......isn't that Dick's boy?

CircusRide
05-16-2007, 08:07 PM
Oh.They got turnip roots that weigh 100lbs from all the radiation.

Awesome! A 100lb poot root!! Maybe that's what caused the stink in H'burg a few months ago.

EricStratton
05-16-2007, 08:09 PM
Cole Trickle......isn't that Dick's boy?

http://www.tvfilm.hu/tvfilm/kepek/film/1777.pjpeg

Rubbin' is Racin'!

CircusRide
05-16-2007, 08:13 PM
I don't know about ya'll but the term "Rubbin is Racin" coming from a guy named Dick Trickle, scares the hell out of me!

TheKing
05-16-2007, 08:24 PM
I'm not sure but there is one very cult like church pastored by a man by the name of Frankie Bryant...

He may not be a scientologist but he still is weird as hell.

daisy
05-17-2007, 12:40 AM
I'm not sure but there is one very cult like church pastored by a man by the name of Frankie Bryant...

He may not be a scientologist but he still is weird as hell.


Where is this church pastored by Frankie Bryant? I appreciate this thread King.

I read where Katie was being realigned by the church for not being compliant. She is being kept on a tight rein and having to drink one half or a cup of vegetable oil for a while. OOOh. and I also read where if she left Tom Cruise and took the baby with her-he could get it since she signed for it to be raised in the church.:(:confused:

TheKing
05-17-2007, 12:44 AM
Where is this church pastored by Frankie Bryant? I appreciate this thread King.



http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=5917+Highway+13,+Lumberton,+MS+39455&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.977057,82.265625&ie=UTF8&ll=31.108654,-89.584579&spn=0.067461,0.160675&z=13&om=1

let it be known that i use the word cult pretty loosely in describing frankies church

weird? yeah definitely...but not really a cult

daisy
05-17-2007, 04:49 AM
Some info about scientology:

http://www.xenu.net/roland-intro.html Fascinating and Hubbard admits starting a religion is more profitable than writing a book.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8057_1.html

Conveyor Belt
05-17-2007, 05:26 AM
I don't have a problem with scientology or scientologists. If that's what you want to believe, go right ahead. Ding away, disagree, but it's still just another man writing about how the universe works... except this man did it in the 20th century as opposed to 4000 centuries BC. Just my opinion, though, just my opinion...

TheKing
05-17-2007, 08:29 AM
CB its not about them believing the way they want to believe...i dont give two craps about that

did you watch ANY of the videos i posted AT ALL?

Conveyor Belt
05-17-2007, 08:44 AM
CB its not about them believing the way they want to believe...i dont give two craps about that

did you watch ANY of the videos i posted AT ALL?

Do you want to ban scientology because of these things in the videos?

How about banning all religions that want to convert everyone or take over everything? I hear X religion talking about how everything would be better if everyone were X religion. X religion is always trying to convert people to X religion. X religion asks, or rather says it's 'scripture' to give 10% of your money to X religion. X religion threatens you with eternal unhappiness if you stray from X religion. X religion has a history of torturing and killing those who spoke against X religion. X religion has been accused of trying to take over the world.

I don't see a difference...

TheKing
05-17-2007, 09:03 AM
......

You DIDNT watch did you?

MSQueen
05-17-2007, 07:38 PM
Scientology is NOT a religion (imo), it is only presented as such to gain tax exempt status.

it is really scary, especially the story about Lisa McPherson. if i can find it, i will submit the link that tells the entire story. it is quite lengthy, but it is very, very horrifying.

i listened to several of the videos TheKing supplied, and to those who have never read anything about scientology, they probably won't really understand what the fuss is about. but to me, it lends more credence to the true purpose of this cult and those behind it!

MSQueen
05-17-2007, 07:40 PM
Here is the link regarding the story of Lisa McPherson:

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/

Conveyor Belt
05-17-2007, 07:41 PM
These stories are alarmist stories. I'm sure I could, without much effort, find videos that present Christianity, Judiasm and Islam in the same light...

MSQueen
05-17-2007, 07:49 PM
... I'm sure I could, without much effort, find videos that present Christianity, Judiasm and Islam in the same light...

that is true, con.

KingMaker
05-17-2007, 10:27 PM
I suggest you guys go watch the "Trapped in a Closet" episode of SouthPark.

Astra
05-17-2007, 10:56 PM
I'm fine with what Scientology seems to believe as long as the members voluntarily join - it's their time and money, so whatever.

What DOES bother me is just how much the organization tries to use lawsuits to shut down its critics, and how it discourages members from seeking medical care that is not sanctioned by the church. I suppose in some ways it isn't that much different than Christian Science, but it still bothers me to such a large group saying "Don't listen to doctors, we know better." It's like what happened with Tom Cruise mouthing off about Brooke Shields having post-partum depression. It's going to be a legal nightmare to deal with them if a child ever gets sick or dies due to lack of proper treatment.

I don't know how much truth there is to it, but one of John Travolta's neighbors reported him to CPS in Florida. There have been rumors for a long time that his son is autistic and the neighbor apparently observed the child being left alone for long periods in the yard. Scientologists don't believe in autism, much less treatment for it. I really hope it's not true.

USincognito
05-18-2007, 03:54 AM
Fascinating and Hubbard admits starting a religion is more profitable than writing a book.

Tithing is but a tuppence compared to the endless auditing until one gets clear.

I had the pleasure a few years ago of seeing Dan Garvin speak. He was in $cientology for 25 years and eventually made it into Sea Org, the highest levels of the Church. He tells of how they finally revealed to him the story of Xenu and how the Thetans came to be and all the crazy stuff that xenu.net discusses. He had one of those "that's it, that's what I've been dedicating my life to" moments and left soon afterwards.

$cientology isn't some benign alternate lifestyle like being Amish. It's a cult that represents a danger to the health, mental well being and financial position of members.

Conveyor Belt
05-18-2007, 09:16 AM
I suggest you guys go watch the "Trapped in a Closet" episode of SouthPark.

It's time to come out of the closet, Tom.

58ford
05-18-2007, 10:12 AM
Rich freaks with too much time on their hands are always going to gravitate to some weird exclusive cult-like group just so they can think they are better more refined & smarter than everybody else. Scientology is just a spiritual country club.

FloridaTransplant
06-10-2007, 08:38 AM
I am not a religionist, so I think all of them are silly. But there are two popular religions in particular that are worthy of public ridicule. Scientology and Mormonism. I'm sure there are many nice people who are members of these religions, but the actual meat of the religions is laughable at best.

daisy
06-10-2007, 10:26 AM
......

You DIDNT watch did you?

I did and I googled more and find that is why there aren't too may anti-books out there.

I read where one person came out ot Scientology and started a support group for people disillusioned. She was legally harassed and Scientology caused her $$$$ to go into the hole. Scientology somehow took that site.

I read where actors and actresses gravitate to it because there are no set rules or not for them.the average scientologist is not coddled from what I read.

Also, the worship service can advance the craft of acting.

According to the sites, a spiritual progression takes lots of $$$ to keep moving and members are stronly told to volunteer up to 40 hrs. for the church.

I also read the part about anything is fair game to go after critics to protect Scientology.

Interesting thread.

dollfus46
06-10-2007, 10:59 AM
I did and I googled more and find that is why there aren't too may anti-books out there.

I read where one person came out ot Scientology and started a support group for people disillusioned. She was legally harassed and Scientology caused her $$$$ to go into the hole. Scientology somehow took that site.

I read where actors and actresses gravitate to it because there are no set rules or not for them.the average scientologist is not coddled from what I read.

Also, the worship service can advance the craft of acting.

According to the sites, a spiritual progression takes lots of $$$ to keep moving and members are stronly told to volunteer up to 40 hrs. for the church.

I also read the part about anything is fair game to go after critics to protect Scientology.

Interesting thread.

Looks like it could be an interesting fight. Next time I get off my meds I'll take 'um on. :smt068

Reason
11-17-2007, 08:39 PM
Exactly how is the following less strange or easier to believe in than anything in Scientology?

A cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat form a magical tree.

TheKing
11-17-2007, 09:24 PM
according to the rules...we should be banning this guy

Abaddon
11-17-2007, 09:43 PM
The Church of Satan is far more realistic. I was going to start a thread about it, but I think I'd better wait until I have a little more rep before I do that. Could get ugly in a hurry, ya know.

dollfus46
11-17-2007, 10:32 PM
I am not a religionist, so I think all of them are silly. But there are two popular religions in particular that are worthy of public ridicule. Scientology and Mormonism. I'm sure there are many nice people who are members of these religions, but the actual meat of the religions is laughable at best.

Well, the idea of 72 virgins waiting for me is off the wall too. What the hell am I going to do with 72 virgins at my age?! I have an ego, but DAYUM!!

dollfus46
11-17-2007, 10:35 PM
Cole Trickle......isn't that Dick's boy?
How did I miss this entire thread? That's hilarious!!:laugh:

dollfus46
11-17-2007, 10:38 PM
Exactly how is the following less strange or easier to believe in than anything in Scientology?

A cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat form a magical tree.

cool:smt023 Aside:(Just back up slowly............when I say 'go'.......Run for your life.)

Fish-Bait
11-17-2007, 10:48 PM
dam, ya'll made sister goldenflowergirlhair groan ya'll.......bad bad boys...

What would happen ....dam gunshots...oh yeah, I am in pascagoula...nevermind...what would happen if nebula was really spelled ubalen....now what wood..haha...would happen then...hang on...a ghost is tryin' to get my beer and pour it down the sink.........no wait a minute...he just informed me that he took my crown royal and is gonna try and get the neighbors dog drunk because the sob barks at night....

Fish-Bait
11-17-2007, 11:11 PM
She just needs a good rimming. That's all.

You couldn't handle her. She is all that.

Abaddon
11-17-2007, 11:14 PM
Kinda whiny for my taste anyway.

Astra
11-17-2007, 11:18 PM
I think the Mormons and Scientologists so far have got it pretty easy, at least compared to what early Christians went through. Nobody's tried to make them into lion chow yet that I'm aware of.

Really, if you try to sum up any major religion in a single sentence it's going to sound pretty crazy. I mean, it's religion, therefore you're dealing with powers outside the norm and that inherently means stuff that's going to sound crazy by definition.

Crazy-sounding beliefs don't bother me much, since everyone has them to a degree. I'm cool with the Mormons - the normal ones that is, not the psycho polygamist nutjobs hiding out in the desert. The ones I've met have been great people who really do put their families first in everything. The lower levels of Scientology aren't too bad either, even if it is more of a self-help program than an actual religion at that stage. It has helped a lot of people because it really focuses on getting yourself together and clearing out bad influences in your life, but there's always a push to buy into the next level of "clarity" and that's where the scary cult-y stuff starts. Their medical advice is also crap and Tom Cruise is now dead to me.

countrygirl
11-18-2007, 06:50 AM
As long as they leave me alone with their crazy beliefs I'm fine. I did have a problem with one particular group picketing against blood transfusions and trying to get me to take their literature outside a major medical center. I found it difficult to be nice to those folks. There's a couple of those groups that like to go door to door espousing their dogma. I refuse to let them in or talk religion with them. I know and like some folks that are Mormons or some other off the wall religion, but I will not discuss religion with them.

Sister Golden Hair
11-18-2007, 08:38 AM
Kinda whiny for my taste anyway.

Again, you haven't got a clue who I am or what I am about. And I will continue to groan post that I feel are not thoughtful and/or innapropriate.

mac
11-18-2007, 08:48 AM
When I was taking Sociology in college I had to write a paper about a cult. The group had to meet certain criteria to be considered a cult. I started reading about Scientology and found that it met all of the criteria and then some. I can't remember all the details that I found while researching it, but it was some whacked out chit. Hard to believe anyone takes it seriously. You'd have to be pretty far removed from reality to even consider it.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 09:05 AM
I thought about becoming a Scientologist, but when one of the questions on the application asked if I had a disrespect for Science I had to check "yes". How much: Very Little, A lot, or a disgusting amount, I had to check the latter. My app was denied.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 09:16 AM
As long as they leave me alone with their crazy beliefs I'm fine. I did have a problem with one particular group picketing against blood transfusions and trying to get me to take their literature outside a major medical center. I found it difficult to be nice to those folks. There's a couple of those groups that like to go door to door espousing their dogma. I refuse to let them in or talk religion with them. I know and like some folks that are Mormons or some other off the wall religion, but I will not discuss religion with them.

I know, but then there's always some genius, with a few science courses under his belt who wants to "prove" you're a idiot. They're as bad as the holy rollers who are "called" to convert everyone. Both are obnoxious opposite ends of the religious spectrum.
And, with that being said, I think I'll take day off. I'm in a pissy mood today.:smt118 Love you all.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 09:31 AM
As long as they leave me alone with their crazy beliefs I'm fine. I did have a problem with one particular group picketing against blood transfusions and trying to get me to take their literature outside a major medical center.
Blood transfusions are against their religion? I've heard some goofy religious beliefs before, but that one is a special kind of stupid.
Again, you haven't got a clue who I am or what I am about. And I will continue to groan post that I feel are not thoughtful and/or innapropriate.
Knock yourself out. But hows about explaining why my post deserved a groan?

firefly disagrees: You don't have to ridicule Christianity just because you are a non believer!
That wasn't ridicule. That was comparative reasoning. All religions, including christianity, sound silly when they're put into perspective.

Conveyor Belt
11-18-2007, 10:34 AM
Most religious beliefs about the way you live life are based on an aspect that will allow you to live a good life, a safe life, and a life free from illness.

For example, the bible states (Lev. 3:17). "The Lord said to Moses, ‘Say to the people of Israel, You shall eat no fat, of ox, or sheep, or goat. The fat of an animal that dies of itself, and the fat of one that is torn by beasts, may be put to any other use, but on no account shall you eat it. For every person who eats of the fat of an animal of which an offering by fire is made to the Lord shall be cut off from his people. Moreover you shall eat no blood whatever, whether of fowl or of animal, in any of your dwellings. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people’" (Lev 7:22–27).

Now, does this mean that you should make sure you have your steak well done? That's what the lord says, mind you. If you can read it any other way, I'm sure you will let me know.

Anyhow, my point is that eating uncooked or undercooked items can lead to sickness. There are a lot of pathogens in blood of animals and humans. The Jehovah's Witness no blood rule isn't all that bad. We still don't know all the things that are in blood. Diseases are still being contracted through blood transfusions. It's not 100% safe. Saying God says to do it just makes more people more likely to do it.

I'm wondering if the older beliefs in keeping oneself covered as related to interpretations to bible passages isn't such a great idea afterall. I referring to the rates of skin cancer. If we all were covered with long sleeves and wore hats, the rates of skin cancer would go down. Maybe those crazy Mennonites aren't so crazy afterall.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 10:42 AM
Nah. They're still crazy. They just have less cancer.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 11:05 AM
Kinda whiny for my taste anyway.

Personal attacks like this would normally get you neg. reps. You should be happy with just a groan. That's what they are for. Now I can't find the post where you really insulted FlowerGirl with your trashy remark about needing to be rimmed. I can't believe someone hasn't already stepped up to the plate already. You wouldn't say that to her face with her husband standing there and not get a board upside your head. The ladies on here aren't whores, nor trash. Disagree with them but don't cheapen them with talk like that.

threekidspa
11-18-2007, 12:38 PM
Aren't you all going to look dumb when the big spaceship pull in. :)
Hey! Welcome back!

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 12:55 PM
Knock yourself out. But hows about explaining why my post deserved a groan?
A groan is a pretty benign admonishment. One guy used the groan button as a marker to mark the posts he'd read.


That wasn't ridicule. That was comparative reasoning. All religions, including christianity, sound silly when they're put into perspective.

I can agree with you as long as we're using our limited brains for information for the comparison. In the overall scheme of things our intelligence level and knowledge of the universe and beyond probably doesn't reach imbecilic level. I'm willing to accept that and have faith on that which I cannot prove, just like science has faith on that which it cannot disprove. I think most would call it hypothesis. Darwinists call it the natural order of things therefore it must be true.:kekeke: Sorry, had to stick 'um just a little.

upset
11-18-2007, 12:58 PM
L. Ron Hubbard "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be start his own religion." ~ As quoted in the Los Angeles Times (27 August 1978)

mac
11-18-2007, 12:59 PM
Personal attacks like this would normally get you neg. reps. You should be happy with just a groan. That's what they are for. Now I can't find the post where you really insulted FlowerGirl with your trashy remark about needing to be rimmed. I can't believe someone hasn't already stepped up to the plate already. You wouldn't say that to her face with her husband standing there and not get a board upside your head. The ladies on here aren't whores, nor trash. Disagree with them but don't cheapen them with talk like that.

Thanks for this, Dollfus. I'm always glad when someone can respond to assholishness without being mean. I'm not often successful at that, but there have been many times lately that I have stopped myself short of calling someone an ugly name, remembering that it's not nice to do.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 01:33 PM
Thanks for this, Dollfus. I'm always glad when someone can respond to assholishness without being mean. I'm not often successful at that, but there have been many times lately that I have stopped myself short of calling someone an ugly name, remembering that it's not nice to do.
Thanks Mac. I'm not always successful at keeping a calm perspective on things either. But name calling and personal belittling is the first sign you've lost the debate. I may have lost the debate, but I'm not going to announce it to everyone by going that route. Now, understand, this precludes any reference to my being an arrogant ass from time to time. ;)

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 01:35 PM
Hey Upset. I see you. Whar ya been? Jump in.

Sister Golden Hair
11-18-2007, 01:49 PM
I enjoy reading others opinions and am always open to learn. What I can't stand is an "I'm here to straighten you all out and upset the calm demeanor of this forum" attitude that some new members are exhibiting. Personal religious beliefs or lack of religious beliefs are ones own bag of goodies. Of course, as any believer, I would hope that you have some sort of communion with God.

To me, this forum is like an extended part of a friendship or family, we sound off on each other, comfort and support each other. And we have each others backs....

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 02:00 PM
I enjoy reading others opinions and am always open to learn. What I can't stand is an "I'm here to straighten you all out and upset the calm demeanor of this forum" attitude that some new members are exhibiting. Personal religious beliefs or lack of religious beliefs are ones own bag of goodies. Of course, as any believer, I would hope that you have some sort of communion with God.

To me, this forum is like an extended part of a friendship or family, we sound off on each other, comfort and support each other. And we have each others backs....

It's the HOW they have our backs that concerns me sometimes. There were 5 who I wouldn't turn my back on if I knew who they were. Remember the popularity poll? I can guess 3. the other two I'm not sure. I only checked one bad. Surprised?

Pirate_129
11-18-2007, 02:26 PM
Any anonymous forum will draw it's share of people that enjoy playing the "bad guy" so to speak. Some folks will play devil's advocate just to draw the ire of the forum in general. You can usually spot these people by an imbalance in the number of "controversial" posts they make versus their normal participation in the mundane discussions that happen in a community.

There is a marked difference in someone that has beliefs that may run a bit against the flow of the prevailing ideas and a person that joins a board to simply seek attention through being disliked. I think I can use both Fuzzis and CB as members that sometimes defend unpopular ideas and try to share their views with the community. Whether we admit it or not, we all learn from their posts even if it's something we don't care for. Fuzzi and CB also are extremely active in the day in and day out topics of the board even when there's no controversy to be found. These kinds of posters are what makes the forums educational and enjoyable.

On the other hand, people that join simply utilize anonymity to say things they would never think of saying face to face offer very little to our community. It seems some people enjoy attacking, bullying, and generally trying to gain attention by saying things they think the community as a whole will react to. Who knows why they do it.

Anywho, that was my analysis of a couple of the types of forum personas we see. If Lucy can get a nickel from Charlie Brown, maybe I can too. :smt118

countrygirl
11-18-2007, 02:41 PM
Jahova's Witnesses do not believe in blood transfusions. They are not completely off the wall like a couple of the other groups though.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 02:53 PM
dollfus46 disagrees: For the "rim" remark I can't find.
threekidspa disagrees: Was looking for the rim remark too. I suppose here is just as good...


Pansies.

Reason
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
My question goes unanswered. I'm not trolling.

I'm a longtime lurker of this forum, and it seems an honest question to pose in light of all the ire aimed at non-Christians.

In a few hundred years, Scientology will be regarded in the same way Mormonism is now. If it survives longer, all the talk of its insanity will disappear, and people will draw from it what they will.

Given enough time, Scientology and Mormonism will rise and fall, like Greek and Roman religions, like Christianity, Islam and Judaism are destined to, and all will be looked upon by modern people as quaint and misguided.

Whatever people believe in then, they will be atheists in regard to all the religions which came before, just as you are now.

In their infancy, all religions are cult-like.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Personal attacks like this would normally get you neg. reps. You should be happy with just a groan. That's what they are for. Now I can't find the post where you really insulted FlowerGirl with your trashy remark about needing to be rimmed. I can't believe someone hasn't already stepped up to the plate already. You wouldn't say that to her face with her husband standing there and not get a board upside your head. The ladies on here aren't whores, nor trash. Disagree with them but don't cheapen them with talk like that.
They cheapen themselves with such thin skinned reactions to those who don't think like them. Some people deserve to be offended. They earn it. No reason to deny them what they've so rightfully earned.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 02:58 PM
mac disagrees: I'm really getting sick of you.
And?

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 03:01 PM
Jahova's Witnesses do not believe in blood transfusions. They are not completely off the wall like a couple of the other groups though.
First I've ever heard of that. That's a really odd interpretation of scripture they've got there.

wilebill
11-18-2007, 03:01 PM
They cheapen themselves with such thin skinned reactions to those who don't think like them. Some people deserve to be offended. They earn it. No reason to deny them what they've so rightfully earned.By the same token, some people deserve to get groaned and neg repped. They earn it. No reason to deny them what they've so rightfully earned.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 03:04 PM
You're right. I should really start using those features more often.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 03:09 PM
On the other hand, people that join simply utilize anonymity to say things they would never think of saying face to face offer very little to our community. It seems some people enjoy attacking, bullying, and generally trying to gain attention by saying things they think the community as a whole will react to. Who knows why they do it.

Anywho, that was my analysis of a couple of the types of forum personas we see. If Lucy can get a nickel from Charlie Brown, maybe I can too. :smt118
That type certainly exists. I'm not him, though.

Pirate_129
11-18-2007, 03:26 PM
That type certainly exists. I'm not him, though.

I don't believe I pointed any fingers at you. Any similarities you may have drawn are of your own. :smt023

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 04:01 PM
I don't believe I pointed any fingers at you. Any similarities you may have drawn are of your own. :smt023
Ah, yes. Subtle implications aren't implications at all. I hear ya.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 04:06 PM
Its not that I don't think like you, or don't like what you think. Maybe when you get that, and start acting like there are other credible ideas and thought out there besides your own, you won't get groans and negative reps from us 'pansies'.
I don't believe I've ever indicated that mine was the only credible opinion. On the contrary. I think my views have received more negativity than they've offered.

threekidspa
11-18-2007, 04:11 PM
I don't believe I've ever indicated that mine was the only credible opinion. On the contrary. I think my views have received more negativity than they've offered.


Oh, my mistake...sorry. ....after you've dismissed someones views through vulgar remarks about them, told us that our religious beliefs are 'silly', and your name calling....how could I possibly not believe you?

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 04:39 PM
I think you exaggerate just a bit.

If someone says something to me, then yeah. I'm likely to respond. Find something I said that wasn't in response to someone else's bullshit, and we'll talk.

threekidspa
11-18-2007, 05:15 PM
Find something I said that wasn't in response to someone else's bullshit, and we'll talk.

Maybe, just maybe, if you were to respond as if what is said isn't 'bullshit', it'd go a little better?

This isn't the HA forums. Go back and look at that poll. One of the big differences (and one of the most important, if you ask me) many of us prefere MH is the hateful, spiteful attitudes of many of the posters over there. We don't treat each other with kid gloves, but we don't make gratuitous jabs at each other either.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 05:18 PM
Maybe, just maybe, if you were to respond as if what is said isn't 'bullshit', it'd go a little better?
You can put candles on a cow pie, but that don't make it birthday cake.

but we don't make gratuitous jabs at each other either.
Had me fooled.

fuzzis
11-18-2007, 06:07 PM
One of the things that I find interesting about this conversation...if you can call it that...is that at least on your part Abaddon...is that you have no recognition that you're coming into an established community, that has it's very own ways of responding to and treating each other. There are things that are acceptable here and things that are not.

You can call it being "thin-skinned" if you want, but the truth is that if you are so inclined, you can disagree with someone...even be antagonistic without being rude, which other people have already said. You can disagree with your friends but unless you have a relationship where it's acceptable, you're not going to call them names or tell them their idiots or what have you. Unless you don't want to remain friends with them.

You're being told, and have been told since you arrived, that the way you are interacting here is against our norms. If you would like to continue to interact, you need to figure out another way to do it. Just like any community, new folks and outsiders are not granted the same latitude as those who have been around for awhile. You can jump up and down and hold your breath and do your own fair share of whinging about it, or you can suck it up and get on with it.

Your choice.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 06:26 PM
On a side note, kevin, get a hobby.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 06:43 PM
Pansies.

You started the day at +20 and now you're all the way down to the negative. I'm guessing that since I'm giving you a -8 more as soon as I can for name callling you aren't long for this site. I'd be looking for another home if I were you, or put a cap on it. Just a guess.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 06:53 PM
They cheapen themselves with such thin skinned reactions to those who don't think like them. Some people deserve to be offended. They earn it. No reason to deny them what they've so rightfully earned.

I can't give you any more neg reps. I emplore all who care for our ladies to send this "gentleman" on his way right now. Grease the tracks for him.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 06:57 PM
You're right. I should really start using those features more often.

Somehow I don't think I'd spend a lot of time learning how to use all the features. Just a guess.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 07:09 PM
Hob684 disagrees: what is it with you and the personal insults? Grow up
How was that a personal insult? The dude trails behind me like a stalker groaning every post. The dude needs a hobby. Nothing insulting about that.

dollfus46
11-18-2007, 07:12 PM
One of the things that I find interesting about this conversation...if you can call it that...is that at least on your part Abaddon...is that you have no recognition that you're coming into an established community, that has it's very own ways of responding to and treating each other. There are things that are acceptable here and things that are not.

You can call it being "thin-skinned" if you want, but the truth is that if you are so inclined, you can disagree with someone...even be antagonistic without being rude, which other people have already said. You can disagree with your friends but unless you have a relationship where it's acceptable, you're not going to call them names or tell them their idiots or what have you. Unless you don't want to remain friends with them.

You're being told, and have been told since you arrived, that the way you are interacting here is against our norms. If you would like to continue to interact, you need to figure out another way to do it. Just like any community, new folks and outsiders are not granted the same latitude as those who have been around for awhile. You can jump up and down and hold your breath and do your own fair share of whinging about it, or you can suck it up and get on with it.

Your choice.

Dayum, Fuzzis. . I wish I could have used such elegant decorum in when I presented his two choices to him. :smt023 Nice job. :clap::clap: But is he capable of understanding he must engage himself in analytical thought at this point? I'll bet my confederate nickel his current attitude doesn't allow for it.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 07:27 PM
Dayum, Fuzzis. . I wish I could have used such elegant decorum in when I presented his two choices to him. :smt023 Nice job. :clap::clap: But is he capable of understanding he must engage himself in analytical thought at this point? I'll bet my confederate nickel his current attitude doesn't allow for it.
Like I told Honey, it's all in your approach. Can't really convince someone to take their ass off their shoulders while you're wearing your own as a hat, ya know. I ain't the only one here with suspect people skills.

Sister Golden Hair
11-18-2007, 07:32 PM
In response to your request. I have really thought about explaining to you what it is that you don't know about me Abbadon, but you wouldn't understand.

Almost all regular posters on here know who I am and what I do. They know what kind of person I am.

That said, I could give a rats butt what you think. You have no credibility.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 07:36 PM
You're all class. It shows. Really.

countrygirl
11-18-2007, 07:44 PM
This might seem like a dumb question to some of you, but how do you give rep to someone, positive or negative? It says my rep power is 1, but I don't know how to give it???? Sorry, but you have to remember that I 7 years old before we even got a tv.

Sister Golden Hair
11-18-2007, 07:45 PM
Look in the top right corner and click on the scales next to the post number.

Sister Golden Hair
11-18-2007, 07:48 PM
You're all class. It shows. Really.

You wouldn't know class if it slapped you in the face. And, judging from your attitude, I am sure it has.

countrygirl
11-18-2007, 07:51 PM
Thanks Sister Golden Hair. I've wanted to give rep on several occasions but for the life of me could not figure out how to do it...

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 07:57 PM
You wouldn't know class if it slapped you in the face. And, judging from your attitude, I am sure it has.
D'oh! That was a good one! It also supports my impression of you.

Abaddon
11-18-2007, 07:59 PM
On a side note, kevin, get a hobby.
Now the stalker is sending me threatening PMs. This dude is a real head case.

kevin
11-18-2007, 08:04 PM
I sent you that in PM for a reason you little troll and I haven't made any threatening PM's. I just was talking in your language it appears you don't understand anything but profanity!Little troll...

mac
11-18-2007, 08:05 PM
I sent you that in PM for a reason you little troll and I haven't made any threatening PM's. I just was talking in your language it appears you don't understand anything but profanity!Little troll...

Don't stoop, Kevin.