I'm Pissed Off!!!!!!!!!

[noway]

I know there is other threads.. but it is time to BITCH!!!!!


Gas at H 49 / I 59 Saturday was 2.69 now most places are 2.99.. 30 cents in 6 days...

All the gas companies, politicans, and anyone that sells gas can kiss it where the sun doesn't shine...

:smt086:smt086:smt086:smt086

[virgo]

I know there is other threads.. but it is time to BITCH!!!!!


Gas at H 49 / I 59 Saturday was 2.69 now most places are 2.99.. 30 cents in 6 days...

All the gas companies, politicans, and anyone that sells gas can kiss it where the sun doesn't shine...

:smt086:smt086:smt086:smt086

Tell me about it. It is $3.20 per gallon here. I am glad I filled up on Tuesday when it was $3.10.


http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070517/NEWS01/705170439

[noway]

Please tell me how 6 months ago its 2.07 and now because they decide oh lets f***ing raise the price its 2.99.. Is the american people that stupid...screw em lets not go to work , not buy gas, don't buy cars anymore, protest at the gas stations.. lets get together and tell the gas comanies to kiss it... Call jesse jackson lets march to washington..

[SoMissTV]

anyone that sells gas can kiss it where the sun doesn't shine.

This is you in the front and the gasoline pump at your rear - :hitit:

screw em...

tell the gas comanies to kiss it...

All of these posts belong in the "boy meets girl" group.

[virgo]

Hey Noway, this ride is for you, dude!

http://www.guzer.com/pictures/gaspoweredbike.php

OMG, I am laughing my a$$ off at that photo. I could totally see Noway on one of those little bikes. Or he could get one of those motorized ones....what are they called? Scooters?:smt118:laugh:

[Tully Mars]

OMG, I am laughing my a$$ off at that photo. I could totally see Noway on one of those little bikes. Or he could get one of those motorized ones....what are they called? Scooters?:smt118:laugh:

"Chicken Noway" - Hattiesburg Icon!!!:-D

[virgo]

Hey! Quit groaning me! A lot of people are using scooters these days. Although I hear they are not very reliable.:smt102

[carsalesguy]

2.959 in brandon-

[EricStratton]

I've enjoyed my scooter:

http://www.ridingsun.com/files/ridingsun-scooterGuy.JPG

[Conveyor Belt]

Get on a bike and ride it to work when you can. Hell, you LIVE in the 'burg, right? So, if you're not using your vehicle for work, then you could easily get a bicycle and ride to work. If I can do it, anyone can!

[virgo]

Get on a bike and ride it to work when you can. Hell, you LIVE in the 'burg, right? So, if you're not using your vehicle for work, then you could easily get a bicycle and ride to work. If I can do it, anyone can!


How is that going, CB? Anyone honk at ya yet?

[Conveyor Belt]

How is that going, CB? Anyone honk at ya yet?

Some guy with a lamar county tag in a yellow mustang... other than that, no... no angry honks, yet...

[EricStratton]

Some guy with a lamar county tag in a yellow mustang... other than that, no... no angry honks, yet...

Doc? Was that you?

[amanda]

I've already told Butterball that I am dragging out the bike and airing the tires. Hell, it's only 6 miles from my house to the office. For 2.99 a gallon - I can peddle.

[EricStratton]

CB,

Maybe you can help noway and just give him a lift when you get to town:

http://www.gocapecod.org/images/STW05-tandem.JPG

[IGID]

Poor poor Noway. Your head is going to explode when the first hurricane enters the Gulf and gas hits $4.00 a gallon.

[wilebill]

I filled up tonight and felt so generous I also sprang for a carwash.

[Conveyor Belt]

CB,

Maybe you can help noway and just give him a lift when you get to town:

http://www.gocapecod.org/images/STW05-tandem.JPG

I was looking at a tandem today at Moore's Bike Shop... I'd like my wife to get on one with me, but we'll just have to see...

I think this is more in line with what noway'd want...
http://www.bicycletrailers.com/assets/product_images/200/101509000000000.jpg

[carsalesguy]

I filled up tonight and felt so generous I also sprang for a carwash.

did you go out west where if you get a carwash you get 5 cents off a gallon of gas?

[daisy]

Noway, I just got a 1/2 tank for $18.00 and was fussing to my boyfriend that when I got the car I could fill it up for around $20.00. 1998 0r 1999???

I am ready to vote for the 1st guy for president that is not aligned with big oil companies and doesn't tell me to buy a hybrid. :confused:

[carsalesguy]

Noway, I just got a 1/2 tank for $18.00 and was fussing to my boyfriend that when I got the car I could fill it up for around $20.00. 1998 0r 1999???

I am ready to vote for the 1st guy for president that is not aligned with big oil companies and doesn't tell me to buy a hybrid. :confused:

we have some nice hybrids at work i could show u----

[dollfus46]

When I read your post Noway, the first thing that came to mind is Twisted Sister's old song - "No, We Ain't Gonna Take It" :clap: Go on and lead the charge - we got your back and we'll be singing along with you all the way!!!

We're Not Gonna Take It by Twisted Sister

OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND
THERE AIN'T NO WAY WE'LL LOSE IT
THIS IS OUR LIFE, THIS IS OUR SONG
WE'LL FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE JUST
DON'T PICK OUR DESTINY 'CAUSE
YOU DON'T KNOW US, YOU DON'T BELONG

OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE...........

I really wish the public was organized enough to make a difference. But we'll bitch and whine, moan and grown, all the while filling our tanks and paying $3/gal +, sending the message to the oil companies, that they haven't yet raised the price of gas to the level at which we can no longer pay or aren't willing to pay. Called the Law of Supply and Demand. Until we start car pooling, riding bikes or mopeds or taking public transit systems, they win. I could really get political here but I'm tired and not in the mood for a lively debate.:)

[Guru]

I saw on the national news tonight that some folks were paying over $4.00 / gallon. The national average is less but they were talking about these people living farther from the refineries. Makes a little sense when you look at it that way and no offense but California and Florida pay a little more because they don't want drilling and production off the coast of either state. The "Don't buy any on *** day" thing will never work, you fill up beforehand and then afterwards and they know that. It has cost me up to $60.00 to fill up the Jeep, kinda scary if it goes much higher. My only personal way of combating it so far is that the Jeep is the only vehicle other than the motorcycle that I will actually fill up. I use the Jeep to drive cross country to work locations at roughly 20-21 MPG. The lawn mower and 4 wheeler don't count. The two farm trucks are never filled up anymore, I refuse to give them more than 10 gallons at a time; just enough to do what I am doing. Might not bring any corporation to their knees but it makes me feel a little better knowing I didn't go whole hog and "buy-in" to the pricing.

[fuzzis]

I saw on the national news tonight that some folks were paying over $4.00 / gallon. The national average is less but they were talking about these people living farther from the refineries. Makes a little sense when you look at it that way and no offense but California and Florida pay a little more because they don't want drilling and production off the coast of either state.

California may not want drilling or production off their coast, but there are refineries there (http://www.energy.ca.gov/oil/refineries.html). It's part of the reason why we in NV could never figure out why our gas prices were so incredibly high.

[noway]

Raceway at 49/classic 2.84 this morning. The store had not opened yet but you could pump with a debit card. I bet when they open it will go to 2.97 a gallon because that is what the 2 stores across the street gas is selling for. If they go to 2.97 then its freaking wrong... Its bull chit and they can kiss my ****... 13 cents in one day you think they will do it?

I filled the tank to the rim and I told myself Im not paying over 3.00 a gallon. This tank should last me two weeks so I hope they go down or I will be walking and catching rides..

GAS COMPANIES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

[dollfus46]

California may not want drilling or production off their coast, but there are refineries there (http://www.energy.ca.gov/oil/refineries.html). It's part of the reason why we in NV could never figure out why our gas prices were so incredibly high.

Look at Louisiana. Don't they have oil refineries? Their gas is higher than MS. Was at one time.

[dollfus46]

Raceway at 49/classic 2.84 this morning. The store had not opened yet but you could pump with a debit card. I bet when they open it will go to 2.97 a gallon because that is what the 2 stores across the street gas is selling for. If they go to 2.97 then its freaking wrong... Its bull chit and they can kiss my ****... 13 cents in one day you think they will do it?

I filled the tank to the rim and I told myself Im not paying over 3.00 a gallon. This tank should last me two weeks so I hope they go down or I will be walking and catching rides..

GAS COMPANIES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

Speaking of raceway, the answer is to shut down all auto racing. :smt118

[EricStratton]

$3.03 and $3.01 for regular unleaded this morning at the two stores near my house in Gulfport. Don't know if that is headed y'all's way or not.

[EricStratton]

ES, that just made my day this morning - only cause I'm gonna have to fill-up - I'm sure it'll be $3.00 by the time I get to the gas station.

Yeah...I've about decided, with these gas prices and reading CB's thread, I'm going to ask for a bicycle for my birthday (June 7th---please, no presents guys...but thank you). I live a mile and a half from work, so there's really no excuse for me not getting my big ass up a few minutes earlier so I can bike to work.

[threekidspa]

Hey Noway, this ride is for you, dude!

http://www.guzer.com/pictures/gaspoweredbike.php

Hope that guy doesn't do a wheelie!:laugh:

[Conveyor Belt]

QM, it's REALLY not that bad riding in the heat. I rode in the 94 degree day we had here a while back, and it wasn't that bad. When you're going 10mph on a bike, then you've got a 10 mph wind blowing on you the whole time. Not too shabby...

[Conveyor Belt]

Yeah...I've about decided, with these gas prices and reading CB's thread, I'm going to ask for a bicycle for my birthday (June 7th---please, no presents guys...but thank you). I live a mile and a half from work, so there's really no excuse for me not getting my big ass up a few minutes earlier so I can bike to work.

Good for you! If you're going to use it maily for commuting, make sure you get some street friendly tires (kevlar with liners). A miile and a half should take you about 5 minutes by bike. No problem! Not to be nit-picky, but you could walk 1 1/2 miles in about 30 minutes.

[EricStratton]

Good for you! If you're going to use it maily for commuting, make sure you get some street friendly tires (kevlar with liners). A miile and a half should take you about 5 minutes by bike. No problem! Not to be nit-picky, but you could walk 1 1/2 miles in about 30 minutes.

Yeah...I've done the jogging thing. Trained for and ran the Crescent City Classic 10K last year. I hate jogging and/or walking....just bores the hell out of me. I think biking would be more fun. Least I could "pop a wheelie" or do an "indo" every now and then!

[Guru]

California may not want drilling or production off their coast, but there are refineries there (http://www.energy.ca.gov/oil/refineries.html). It's part of the reason why we in NV could never figure out why our gas prices were so incredibly high.

* Yes, they do still have "left over" refineries there but California has slowly weeded out their offshore production and given utter hell to the land production. Florida does not want ANY. By saying left over refineries I'm meaning that they were built there but the state kinda thinks they wish that had never been done. It's a crazy situation; I got buddies that fret over how they are going to get bulldozers to pull production trucks up and down snow covered mountain sides and then there are places that don't even want to see anything other than a gasoline station that gives away gas, lol. Personally I just concede that it's a reflection of the times, people want everything but don't want to do anything to have it.

[justme]

Yesterday on my way to jackson- 8AM 2.86 at macks in richland- on the way home at 230 at Macks in richland 2.97. Macks is known for cheap gas.

DRIVE A HYBRID!

[amanda]

We are being taken for a very expensive ride. Oil is 7.00 less per barrel than this time last year and yet we are paying more for gas? Refineries can't keep up with production, they say, is just BS! If things are so bad, then why are these oil production companies making record profits. :)

[just-Wynn]

it's time....
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/military_service/burning%20oil%20platforms_sm.jpg

[amanda]

it's time....
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/military_service/burning%20oil%20platforms_sm.jpg


Or not. Please. My honey works on one of those. How about a class action lawsuit instead. The allegations against them are easy - price-gouging, fraud, intent to do emotional harm, pain and suffering, and I'm sure we could come up with a few more. :smt118

[58ford]

Check this out
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5365439

[amanda]

Thanks 58Ford. However my questions are these:

1) If summer is the peak season for gas demand - why shut down refineries for maintenance during that peak time. Maybe they figure out the time of least demand and shut down for repair then.

2) If supply is a factor - why hasn't any of these companies built more refineries. They have all this excess money at their fingertips now, so why not invest in some new refineries in areas that aren't serviced by any close at hand, which will elevate some of the demand in areas that do have refineries close, hence keeping prices down.

3) Oil. Okay. Prices per barrel have gone up. But they are lower than they were this time last year - so what gives. Further, last year was a VERY slow hurricane season, so are they still talking about Katrina? If so, then why hasn't gas prices stayed at the highs they were immediately after until today? Why such a flucuation?

4) Pricing. So the "global market" sets price? Well considering that our dollar is trading at an all-time low in the "global market" then we should be getting our gas for half-price. So, what will it take for the "global market" to back off our checkbooks?

Yeah. I pissed off with the BS rhetoric we keep getting fed to believe that this crap is for real. I know that my paycheck hasn't increased do to any "global market" and it's getting harder and harder to stretch it every day. Gas goes up and right along side it things at the grocery go up. Milk is approaching (and in some cases gone over) 4.00 per gallon. I guess I need to submit a memo to my boss explaining why I need a 20% increase in pay to keep up with the "global market".

[58ford]

2) If supply is a factor - why hasn't any of these companies built more refineries. They have all this excess money at their fingertips now, so why not invest in some new refineries in areas that aren't serviced by any close at hand, which will elevate some of the demand in areas that do have refineries close, hence keeping prices down.
Environmental groups have managed to keep any new refineries from being built since the 1970's and the ones still in existence are old & their technology is dated. It is these groups that have kept the country's refining capacity down.

[jmack]

The oil company excuses for high prices are almost comical.

In 2005, the year of Katrina when some refiners were shut down, Exxon still had an earnings of $10.71 billion in the 2005 quarter — a record quarterly profit for any U.S. public company.

[amanda]

The article below is from Alexander's Gas & Oil Connections website which I find the very first reason as to why no new refineries being built very interesting. I've added the bold as emphasis. Secondly, the "governmental red-tape" issue has been reduced under the current administration so that shouldn't be a problem. As to environmentalist. I think the Oil & Gas lobby could handle the Environmental lobby easily. Put out a bid to every area, city, and town to "bid" on having a refinery built in their area. With unemployement rates and layoffs that have occured over many areas of the US, I imagine they would get one or two who wouldn't care if it was in their backyard or not.



US appears to have built its last refinery


12-06-01 No new refineries have been built in the US in the past 25 years. And petroleum industry experts say anyone would have to be crazy to launch such an effort -- even though present refineries are running at nearly 100 % of capacity and local gasoline shortages are beginning to crop up.
Why does the industry appear to have built its last refinery?
Three reasons: Refineries are not particularly profitable, environmentalists fight planning and construction every step of the way and government red-tape makes the task all but impossible. The last refinery built in the US was in Garyville, Louisiana, and it started up in 1976.
Energy proposed building a refinery near Portsmouth, Virginia, in the late 1970s, environmental groups and local residents fought the plan -- and it took almost nine years of battles in court and before federal and state regulators before the company cancelled the project in 1984.
Industry officials estimate the cost of building a new refinery at between $ 2 bn and $ 4 bn -- at a time the industry must devote close to $ 20 bn over the next decade to reducing the sulphur content in gasoline and other fuels -- and approval could mean having to collect up to 800 different permits. As if those hurdles weren't enough, the industry's long-term rate of return on capital is just 5 % -- less than could be realized by simply buying US Treasury bonds.
"I'm sure that at some point in the last 20 years someone has considered building a new refinery," says James Halloran, an energy analyst with National City Corp. "But they quickly came to their senses," he adds.

Source: Investor's Business Daily

[jmack]

I worked in the oilfield for 3 summers to pay my way through college, and I remember when every rig in the Gulf was operating and we still had high prices in the early 80's.

The thing that gripes me is, every President since Jimmy Carter has made promises of finding alternative fuel sources and reducing our dependence on oil, and they leave office the same way they came in (only promises).

Meanwhile, Toyota, Honda and Nissan are all leading the world in Hybrid technology while GM, Ford and Chrysler sit around the design table and make upgrades to their big SUV's, then whine about losing market share. Honda has even promised a hydrogen model as soon as 2009 while US hydrogen markets for the general public is at least 10 years away.

http://automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/?ModelStart=fcx

[58ford]

Refineries are not particularly profitable, environmentalists fight planning and construction every step of the way and government red-tape makes the task all but impossible.
It is the environmentalists that cause much of the government red tape & expense that makes refineries unprofitable.

[Sir Mickey Mouse]

According to http://www.mississippigasprices.com (http://www.mississippigasprices.com/), it's already $3.16 in Columbus, $3.09 in Starkville, and over $3 a gallon in other places in Mississippi.

[amanda]

It is the environmentalists that cause much of the government red tape & expense that makes refineries unprofitable.


And at the time they began getting involved it was necessary. Our refineries were left unchecked and harming our planet. But with technology and education I believe our producers have become to understand the need to conserve our environment. Granted some of these environmental groups go way overboard, but someone had to step in. I still believe it is all about the money. Why invest 2 - 4 billion in building a new refinery when they can charge the prices they do because of demand and rake the money into the coffers? Of course, this is just my opinion and that along with 1.00 will buy you a cup of coffee (the non-yuppie version).

[Fish-Bait]

it's time....
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/military_service/burning%20oil%20platforms_sm.jpg
I bet at night that would be a good place to fish if you could stand the heat.:-D

[58ford]

And at the time they began getting involved it was necessary. Our refineries were left unchecked and harming our planet. But with technology and education I believe our producers have become to understand the need to conserve our environment. Granted some of these environmental groups go way overboard, but someone had to step in.
I wasn't necessarily speaking against environmental groups (though you're right the do go overboard) I was only pointing out that part of what you're paying at the pump is caused by them.

[just-Wynn]

it's already $3.16 in Columbus it's ALWAYS higher in Columbus. Why?

[jmack]

I don't think it has anything to do with lack of new refineries or environmental groups either. The price of gas is California is $1.00 a gallon more than it is here in Mississippi. That indicates price fixing according to how much they think you'll be willing to pay. Wages are higher in CA. and it doesn't affect them quite as much as a poor state like Mississippi.

I remember before the national election last year the price dropped at least .50 a gallon, and a month or so later it went back up to where it was. Environmentalist and refineries had nothing to do with that hiccup.

[CircusRide]

It's the refinery issue plain and simple. Take that away and we're paying about $2.00 a gallon. The government's allowing the oil companies to treat American consumers the way a slum lord treats his tennants. No upgrades, just higher rent.
California is higher due to the strict environmental standards for the state.

Our government is a bunch of greedy pieces of crap! I don't care if they're donkeys or elephants, they're all in the pocket of the oil and insurance companies.

[jmack]

I usually am against government getting envolved with private business but I think they should make it mandatory for any vehicle sold in the US to get a minimun of 30mpg. and give a deadline.

A friend of mine just argued with me that government can't demand anything like that on the automotive industry and I said they have in the past. Back in the 70's smog was beginnig to become a big problem and the government made it mandatory for ALL vehicles sold in the US to meet a new smog requirement, which required a catalytic converter (I think), and GM, Ford and Chysler were all ferious but they all eventually complied. My family had 2 car dealerships and my father was not happy at all. The converters hurt performance of the vehicles and he said the govenment should stay out of the car business, but here we are with more efficient and cleaner vehicles 30 years later.

The majority of oil is located in very violate parts of the world and we are one big terrorist attack in the middle east from $8.00 a gallon gas. This would cause a recession or even a depression and I think it is no less than a priority for our National Security.

[58ford]

I notice no one's mentioned the Trilateral Commission yet.

[CircusRide]

I notice no one's mentioned the Trilateral Commission yet.

I don't care if they're trilateral, trivertical, or trisexual, just get the freaking prices down!

[Guru]

Look at Louisiana. Don't they have oil refineries? Their gas is higher than MS. Was at one time.

* Yes, I normally pay more for gasoline in Southern Louisiana than I do in Mississippi but I think it has something to do with their sales tax, not sure. In my traveling around I do see extremes in pricing and I have wondered why our Attorney General's office has not attended to this. One night I stopped in Picayune and the gasoline there was 10-12 cents higher than it was in Hattiesburg and this was at the same chain. This was when gasoline was about 60 cents cheaper than it is now. I asked them about it and of course the poor woman working there had no control over it; she said they just post what they are told.

[Guru]

Thanks 58Ford. However my questions are these:

1) If summer is the peak season for gas demand - why shut down refineries for maintenance during that peak time. Maybe they figure out the time of least demand and shut down for repair then.
* Refineries and production facilities and rigs are shut down periodically to perform upgrades both for safety and governmental regulations and for increased production. Sometimes the time this is done involves when the money within a corporation can be appropriated and since the storms ... when workers and materials can be gotten.

2) If supply is a factor - why hasn't any of these companies built more refineries. They have all this excess money at their fingertips now, so why not invest in some new refineries in areas that aren't serviced by any close at hand, which will elevate some of the demand in areas that do have refineries close, hence keeping prices down.
* Increased flow capacity is the deal. It's getting harder to get centrally located real estate to build a new refinery and to get the required permits. The Chevron refinery in Pascagoula and the Oronite facility south of Belle Chase, La. were upgraded last year with a result of nearly double the production potential.

3) Oil. Okay. Prices per barrel have gone up. But they are lower than they were this time last year - so what gives. Further, last year was a VERY slow hurricane season, so are they still talking about Katrina? If so, then why hasn't gas prices stayed at the highs they were immediately after until today? Why such a flucuation?
* Oil prices are subjective, they follow most other things in the stock market. Futures is a bear! The stock market is lead by emotions and speculation a lot of times. The price of a barrel of oil rises and falls all during the day and night, so fast sometimes that the news can't even keep up with it. Compounded with this there is more than one type of crude, there are several and they are used for different applications.

4) Pricing. So the "global market" sets price? Well considering that our dollar is trading at an all-time low in the "global market" then we should be getting our gas for half-price. So, what will it take for the "global market" to back off our checkbooks?
* OPEC is a mess. It's like a frat party. They know they have a certain amount of production potential and trade accordingly. Currently the Saudis, and I don't have the link with me to show you, are building the most outlandish hotels to be seen. Incredible amounts of money, more than you and I could ever imagine. They need money to do this. But do keep in mind that the sand countries are not all that makes up OPEC.

Yeah. I pissed off with the BS rhetoric we keep getting fed to believe that this crap is for real. I know that my paycheck hasn't increased do to any "global market" and it's getting harder and harder to stretch it every day. Gas goes up and right along side it things at the grocery go up. Milk is approaching (and in some cases gone over) 4.00 per gallon. I guess I need to submit a memo to my boss explaining why I need a 20% increase in pay to keep up with the "global market".
* Financial fact: If energy prices are up, all other stocks will be down, and vice versa. Believe it or not, my company cut my travel driving expense during all this mess, not raised it. There's a conundrum for you.

[dollfus46]

I've enjoyed my scooter:

http://www.ridingsun.com/files/ridingsun-scooterGuy.JPG
I was driving south on U.S. 25 when I came upon a dude just like Noway here, except it was obvious his was a DUI mobile. Bless his heart, it looked like I was looking at his only possession and his only set of clothes, that needed washing and disinfecting desparately. He was riding on the paved shoulder of the hwy, and As I passed him, I noticed he had a cell phone to his ear!! It just struck me funny. Who does he need to keep in touch with, his stock broker?

[carsalesguy]

i saw 3.019 in seminary at the shell, southbound lane last night and almost freaked out

it was 2.979 at stuckeys last night-

[Guru]

Yeah, looks like we are being prepped for the Memorial Day price hit. That old song one step forward and two steps back apparently doesn't apply to gasoline. I think the pricing is a ploy. The dips in prices we see are a breather and a false sense of security for the rate increase that is coming. Then we get the one step up, a small step back and then a larger step up again.

[Conveyor Belt]

Pretty, pretty bicycle!

I'm still out of school, but I'm going to be biking to work this week, save for Tuesday, when I've got to go to Mobile for a meeting... I'm not up to biking THAT far just yet!

[fuzzis]

Friday, I paid $3.29 on the west side of Jonesboro, AR. Today when I drove past that same gas station, it was $3.07.

:smt102

[jmb]

Let me tell you...when I left town this morning, our gas was $3.59!!!!!!!!!!:smt103 I bought it at the next town for 3.35 and considerd that good.

[B.T. Justice]

I just heard an interview with T. Boone Pickens, man made several fortunes off commodity speculation, and he thinks fuel prices are going higher. He offered a very simple but telling explanation for his prediction; in three presidential debates, there has not been one question about an oil policy. He infers from this gasoline at $3.00/gal is not a priority for either party. May be time to air up the tires in my bicycle!

[just-Wynn]

I might vote for the candidate that set the lowest gas prices. :police: If Obama got up and just held up a sign that said, "$2.07 per gallon". Vote locked in.

[jmack]

I got the Z parked and am rolling in a Toyota Prius right now. Man, this thing goes forever without using any gas.

[just-Wynn]

After La Fiesta today Wynn is somewhat gas propelled. :police:

[B.T. Justice]

After La Fiesta today Wynn is somewhat gas propelled. :police:
Too much info, chief!

[EricStratton]

I just heard an interview with T. Boone Pickens, man made several fortunes off commodity speculation, and he thinks fuel prices are going higher. He offered a very simple but telling explanation for his prediction; in three presidential debates, there has not been one question about an oil policy. He infers from this gasoline at $3.00/gal is not a priority for either party. May be time to air up the tires in my bicycle!

Interesting...I was just thinking about that (presidential non-recognition of gas prices) when I was pumping $50 worth in my truck (3/4 of a tank BTW)....It is so painfully obvious that all politicians are whores to the oil companies...I guess anybody can be bought...

[jmack]

http://www.dontamend.com/BushPrinceKiss.jpg

[carsalesguy]

we have been selling a piss load of prius and camrys today-

there is a honda civic hybrid in the back that was traded in- i'm thinking about driving it----NOT

[virgo]

Looks like what we were talking about the other day has come true for some.

Scooters, motorcycles gain ground (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=608405)

[CircusRide]

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/T/b/bush_dude_thumbnail.jpg (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushpic3.htm)

[bpitt]

I stopped at the Jr. Food Mart in front of campus, sign said 2.99/gallon, when I was leaving, the lady was DROPPING the price to 2.97/gallon, yeehaw!!!!!

[jmack]

we have been selling a piss load of prius and camrys today-


That Prius I drive is getting just a tad over 45 mpg this week. The car isn't a beauty, but its fun to drive once you get use to it. I plan on taking it to Destin in a couple of weeks and I can't wait to see what it does on the highway.

[SoMissTV]

I can't wait to see what it does on the highway.

You'll get worse gas mileage. Hybrids are great in town driving because the constant braking gives the batteries a chance to recharge. On the highway, the car will rely on the gas engine for propulsion, decreasing your mileage.

[jmack]

SoMiss, I'm afraid your right. I've noticed the mpg's going down when I'm driving down 98 fast. The first day I got it up to about 83mph around Petro Automotive just to see the acceleration and mpg's. I know it probably doesn't help that much but I'm still ticked off at the high gas prices and I'll continue driving it for awhile.

[SoMissTV]

Yep. Hybrids' advantage is the capturing of energy wasted when braking. When you don't brake, you lose the advantage.

On the bright side, you'll do much more in town driving than highway driving.

[carsalesguy]

but a point needed to be taken-

when on the highway, not only is the gasoline engine running- but the electric motor is as well. thus you don't have the maximum gas consumption on the highway if you had just a gas engine.

your info screen where the radio once was has a menu to track your exact MPG etc etc- use it and you will be surprised-

also try using the engine brake more- it helps save gas as well- just tap the gear shift stick (which is very weird) down to B and watch it-

[EricStratton]

This sounds like the Republican answer to the famous Clinton "What does 'is' mean?" deconstruction:

"I don't know what `unconscionably excessive' means," said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas

I wonder how he got elected? J.R. and Bobby must be feeding him all kind of dough...

[CircusRide]

I just found gas in the Burg for under $2.00!!!!!



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[SoMissTV]

Didn't you post that yesterday?

[CircusRide]

Nope, it says today, but thanks for your interest.

[SoMissTV]

Nope, it says today, but thanks for your interest.

I could have sworn you posted this last night and then deleted the thread.

[CircusRide]

You're right. I had some computer issues and couldn't get the page to pull up for some reason. I deleted it without even seeing it.

[EricStratton]

I could have sworn you posted this last night and then deleted the thread.

MAN! You are such a:

http://www.fresnochaffeezoo.com/images/porcupine.gif


DID I POST THAT YESTERDAY? No? Well, I should have...

[Conveyor Belt]

Yesterday it was gas for $1.99, today it's for under $2... it's COMPLETELY different!!!

[virgo]

I sure wish it were under two bucks up here.

I have resorted to only filling up a half of tank. Sooner or later the cost has to go down, right??

[CircusRide]

Yesterday it was gas for $1.99, today it's for under $2... it's COMPLETELY different!!!

Just like some people never change big boy. Some people seem to take themselves and this site waaayyyyy too seriously.

[carsalesguy]

I sure wish it were under two bucks up here.

I have resorted to only filling up a half of tank. Sooner or later the cost has to go down, right??


wrong.

your car runs less efficient with less fuel in the tank.

have you ever noticed that the second half of your tank of gas seems to burn faster than the first half? vehicles were designed to perform with x amount of weight for fuel, which is roughly about half a tank or more.

to get stated MPG, manufacturers actually FILL the tank rather than try to put less in the tank for weight.

[Conveyor Belt]

Just like some people never change big boy.

WTF does that mean?

[Bee Line]

wrong.

your car runs less efficient with less fuel in the tank.

have you ever noticed that the second half of your tank of gas seems to burn faster than the first half? vehicles were designed to perform with x amount of weight for fuel, which is roughly about half a tank or more.

to get stated MPG, manufacturers actually FILL the tank rather than try to put less in the tank for weight. Sounds like a show for "Myth Busters".

[Conveyor Belt]

Sounds to me like someone thinks the gauge in their car is an accurate gauge of how much gas is in the tank. The gas gauge is just relative, it's not accurate. Then you have to figure in parallax...

[Bee Line]

What does the gauge have to do with gas mileage?

[Conveyor Belt]

What does the gauge have to do with gas mileage?

If your car isn't equipt with an onboard computer readout of average mpg, then unless you put a measured amount of gasoline in your car and run it til empty, you really have no idea what your mpg is. Using the gas gauge as a tool to determine mpg is foolish. The gas gauge in most, if not all cars, just gives you a general idea of how much gasoline is actually in your tank.

An accurate gauge wouldn't measure past the 'full' mark, and your car would stop moving before the needle got below the 'empty' mark. How can your car have less than empty gas and it still go? Would you want a glass of water that was less than empty? How about one that was more than full?

So, the claim, weather in jest or for real, that cars run better mpg when the tank is full based soley on how the gauge needle moves are silly. My owner's manual says my gas light comes on when I have 1/8 of a tank left. My gas light doesnt' come on until the needle on the gauge is on the empty mark. So, 1/8 of my tank capacity is below empty. Also, I can fill up my car, run it for a few days, and the needle doesn't move from the 'more than full' mark. Did I not use any gas those days? No, it's just the gauge is so inaccurate, that it wasn't able to measure the gasoline used.

[carsalesguy]

If your car isn't equipt with an onboard computer readout of average mpg, then unless you put a measured amount of gasoline in your car and run it til empty, you really have no idea what your mpg is. Using the gas gauge as a tool to determine mpg is foolish. The gas gauge in most, if not all cars, just gives you a general idea of how much gasoline is actually in your tank.

An accurate gauge wouldn't measure past the 'full' mark, and your car would stop moving before the needle got below the 'empty' mark. How can your car have less than empty gas and it still go? Would you want a glass of water that was less than empty? How about one that was more than full?

So, the claim, weather in jest or for real, that cars run better mpg when the tank is full based soley on how the gauge needle moves are silly. My owner's manual says my gas light comes on when I have 1/8 of a tank left. My gas light doesnt' come on until the needle on the gauge is on the empty mark. So, 1/8 of my tank capacity is below empty. Also, I can fill up my car, run it for a few days, and the needle doesn't move from the 'more than full' mark. Did I not use any gas those days? No, it's just the gauge is so inaccurate, that it wasn't able to measure the gasoline used.


true true- but if you read the EPA guidlines on conserving fuel, you will see where they recommend they be filled to get maximum fuel economy

[Bee Line]

true true- but if you read the EPA guidlines on conserving fuel, you will see where they recommend they be filled to get maximum fuel economy That's the part I was questioning. I haven't noticed any appreciable difference in mileage, whether full or half full.

[Conveyor Belt]

true true- but if you read the EPA guidlines on conserving fuel, you will see where they recommend they be filled to get maximum fuel economy

Can you point me to these? I've googled around and can't find them... If anything, I'm seeing that it's bunk, that you get better gas mileage with less fuel due to weight.

[Conveyor Belt]

I'm reading a bit on the internets about acetone in fuel. Has anyone had a postive or negative experience with adding acetone to the tank?

[just-Wynn]

Wynn will sometimes add an "ass-a-tone" into the conversation with a group of friends. Usually a positve laughing experience at first, followed by a doubled over experience, so i'd say a neutral experience overall. :police: