Elizabeth Edwards phones into HARDBALL to "politely" ask Ann Coulter to stop attacks. [Archive]

daisy

06-27-2007, 11:51 AM

amanda

06-27-2007, 11:57 AM

I hadn't heard this Daisy. Thanks for the link. Generally I avoid anything that has Ann Coulter on it or in it. The woman went off the deep-end a long time ago.

mac

06-27-2007, 12:08 PM

Warning-- This is dirty-- real dirty-- but if you hate Ann Coulter you might like it.

FUNNY BLOG (http://i****edanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/)

fuzzis

06-27-2007, 12:09 PM

Warning-- This is dirty-- real dirty-- but if you hate Ann Coulter you might like it.

FUNNY BLOG (http://i****edanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/)

I've read this before. :-D

amanda

06-27-2007, 12:10 PM

Warning-- This is dirty-- real dirty-- but if you hate Ann Coulter you might like it.

FUNNY BLOG (http://i****edanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/)

LOL! I'm going to have to wait until I get home to view that one! It told me I couldn't here at work. :)

TheKing

06-27-2007, 12:11 PM

I like Ann Counlter if for no other reason than shes hot and fiesty

mac

06-27-2007, 12:13 PM

I like Ann Counlter if for no other reason than shes hot and fiesty

Then you'll REALLY like that link!

amanda

06-27-2007, 12:14 PM

I like Ann Counlter if for no other reason than shes hot and fiesty

LOL! You just want to boink her! :laugh: Doesn't mean she isn't nuts though, TheKing. :smt118

fuzzis

06-27-2007, 12:15 PM

I like Ann Counlter if for no other reason than shes hot and fiesty

You find the Adam's Apple attractive? :smt118

TheKing

06-27-2007, 12:17 PM

in all honesty...just like the rest of the opportunistic media types...they actually have good points...but they spin the ever living shit out of their talking points until nobody can take them seriously

i think she has good points...but i think she goes overboard

and i want my turn at her ass...i think i deserve it

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 12:41 PM

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>I saw the phone call from Elizabeth Edwards and was amazed at the way Ann coulter twists things. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/) -Jun26,2007

What are Ann Coulter's credentials for all her insights? What is her degree and work experience in?

I saw this this morning and heard mention of Ann Coulter saying she had said she wished John Edwards would be killed in a terrorist attack. I missed that and put her down on my least respected list for that.

I don't wish that on any fellow American, no matter their views. Or really anyone.

Anyone else hear this? I think that is tacky and just her agitating and

trying to rally her fan base to buy her books and to stay in the news.

Any other thoughts?

I have two thoughts: If Ann tried to make a joke out of John Edwards's dead son, she needs to pull back and take another look at herself. That's just sleezy. I think it's sleezy for Mrs. Edwards to pull the stunt she pulled, The timing was deliberate and I'm suspicious of Hardball. I think it could very well have been a set up.
As for personal attacks against any politician, it's open season. Happens every day by everybody. Ann Coulter makes a living out of personally attacking politicians and liberal organizations. Liberal satirists do the same thing toward conservatives. Happened to President Bush more than a few times. Politicians' family and children, especially, are off limits. I still love to read her stuff, but I'm not going to condone everything she says. She's an in your face, political satirist of sorts. And really funny if you're a conservative. Her books are hilarious, to me.

politically incorrect

06-27-2007, 12:56 PM

Coulter made the remark about Edwards being killed by terrorists because Bill Mahar said just such a remark about Vice President Cheney. Somehow liberals get away with such outrageous remarks and most go unnoticed by the media. If Coulter responds in kind from the conservative side, however, the media bash her for being mean and heartless. She is just giving back to the Left what it does to the Right all the time.

Conservatives can be called Nazis, but liberals cannot be called communists. Conservatives can be called religious fanatics or the Taliban, but liberals cannot be called atheists. Conservatives can be called jingoistic, but liberals cannot be called traitors. The list goes on and on. Coulter simply says she will not allow one side of the political debate to get away with calling names without it being turned back on them in spades.

I think she goes overboard now and then, but for the most part she is just giving back what the far Left dishes out to conservatives every day.

fuzzis

06-27-2007, 01:01 PM

I don't get the "cannot" part of your post, PI. They very obviously can. It happens all the time...even here. :confused:

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 01:08 PM

Coulter made the remark about Edwards being killed by terrorists because Bill Mahar said just such a remark about Vice President Cheney. Somehow liberals get away with such outrageous remarks and most go unnoticed by the media. If Coulter responds in kind from the conservative side, however, the media bash her for being mean and heartless. She is just giving back to the Left what it does to the Right all the time.

Conservatives can be called Nazis, but liberals cannot be called communists. Conservatives can be called religious fanatics or the Taliban, but liberals cannot be called atheists. Conservatives can be called jingoistic, but liberals cannot be called traitors. The list goes on and on. Coulter simply says she will not allow one side of the political debate to get away with calling names without it being turned back on them in spades.

I think she goes overboard now and then, but for the most part she is just giving back what the far Left dishes out to conservatives every day.

Thanks PC. There's usually "another side to every story." Bill Mahar gets as personal as anybody. Al Franken gets nasty and gets aplause. Well, to each his own.

politically incorrect

06-27-2007, 01:12 PM

I don't get the "cannot" part of your post, PI. They very obviously can. It happens all the time...even here. :confused:

What I should have said, Fuzzis, is that conservatives who say those things get lambasted by the media, portrayed as being mean-spirited and have calls to ban them from appearing on talk shows, etc. But liberals who say those kind of things are never criticized by the mainstream media. In fact, they are invited on MORE shows and raise their profile. There is a double standard on how people are treated who make those types of remarks.

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 01:22 PM

What I should have said, Fuzzis, is that conservatives who say those things get lambasted by the media, portrayed as being mean-spirited and have calls to ban them from appearing on talk shows, etc. But liberals who say those kind of things are never criticized by the mainstream media. In fact, they are invited on MORE shows and raise their profile. There is a double standard on how people are treated who make those types of remarks.

Well, I think the reason for the discrepency is that FoxNews is the only right leaning TV channel All the others are left leaning. O'Reilly's show has gotten boring lately. Last night was awful. We get Shepard Smith until 7. Then O'Reilly with more of what Shepard had. Followed by Hannity and Colmes. More of O'Reilly subject matter. Then On The Record. More of the same subject matter. I watch the Braves, part of a movie, then catch the 11:00 rerun of O'Reilly to fall asleep to.:smt086

ComputerDude

06-27-2007, 01:29 PM

Pop

06-27-2007, 01:38 PM

See the actual comment tonight on CNN Glenn Beck and decide.
Wednesday's show

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Ann Coulter vs. Elizabeth Edwards: It's the confrontation everyone's talking about. Coulter tells Glenn her side of the spat tonight, 7 and 9 ET, on Headline Prime.

Bluesman

06-27-2007, 02:34 PM

Isn't this her second shot at Edwards this year? Didn't she call him a fag a few months ago?
Everybody on all sides say some pretty foul things about one another. What confuses me the most about her is if she's suppose to be a Christian conservative, why does she say such hateful things? Along with Edwards she said some pretty horrid things about the 911 widows last year as well but if she's a Christian doesn't it go against her beliefs to say such hateful things?
Even though she is a Christian she is still human. To make mistakes is human. Christians aren't perfect, they are still people too and therefore prone to mistakes just like anyone else. The only difference is that they are forgiven... Forgiven, not perfect. She is wrong to say and do some of the things she does, but so am I and so is everyone else. We all have shortcomings in our lives.

ComputerDude

06-27-2007, 02:38 PM

Even though she is a Christian she is still human. To make mistakes is human. Christians aren't perfect, they are still people too and therefore prone to mistakes just like anyone else. The only difference is that they are forgiven... Forgiven, not perfect. She is wrong to say and do some of the things she does, but so am I and so is everyone else. We all have shortcomings in our lives.Sure, people are human and make mistakes. But, this isn't the first time she's said such a horrid thing. She's not stupid, she understands the media in which she works and she knows the things she says will resonate through out the country. If she did it once and apologized I would accept what you said as truth. But her comments aren't merely a slip of the tongue.

Astra

06-27-2007, 02:43 PM

Coulter knows how to get people mad. It's what she does. If that means tweaking the facts a bit, she doesn't mind.

I wish more people did this - called in to refute what is said about them in the media. There are a billion pundits out there bashing people left and right, but how often do they really have to deal with the person they've been talking about? Too often it's just communication between publicists and staffers and not between the accuser and the accused.

Of course, that might make more people think about what they say and its implications and that wouldn't be good for the ratings.

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 03:15 PM

ComputerDude

06-27-2007, 03:21 PM

Christians have feelings, emotions, all the human thoughts. Rev. Jesse called Jews Hymies. He still has a following. Like I said, I can accept an occasional slip-up followed by an apology. But she makes it a point to say the things she does. She's not stupid. There's no reason, absolutely no reason to say she wishes anybody dead.

Bluesman

06-27-2007, 03:45 PM

Sure, people are human and make mistakes. But, this isn't the first time she's said such a horrid thing. She's not stupid, she understands the media in which she works and she knows the things she says will resonate through out the country. If she did it once and apologized I would accept what you said as truth. But her comments aren't merely a slip of the tongue.
I can appreciate that point however, just because we know something is wrong doesn't necessarily mean we won't do it. Everyone I know says things off the cuff at times that they probably shouldn't have but did anyway cause their mouths operate at a faster rate than their brains. Sure, you can say she was wrong for it but then the others should be called in on theirs as well. I mean Franken and Jackson, now there are two mouths right there but no one ever calls them in on the carpet for letting their bulldog mouths overload their Chihuahua arses. Not saying that Coulter is right, I'm just saying that don't think that just because she is a Christian she doesn't make mistakes.

ComputerDude

06-27-2007, 03:57 PM

I can appreciate that point however, just because we know something is wrong doesn't necessarily mean we won't do it. Everyone I know says things off the cuff at times that they probably shouldn't have but did anyway cause their mouths operate at a faster rate than their brains. Sure, you can say she was wrong for it but then the others should be called in on theirs as well. I mean Franken and Jackson, now there are two mouths right there but no one ever calls them in on the carpet for letting their bulldog mouths overload their Chihuahua arses. Not saying that Coulter is right, I'm just saying that don't think that just because she is a Christian she doesn't make mistakes.
Agreed on all points but the last. It's a mistake only because what she's saying is wrong, but like I said, it's no slip-of-the-tongue. It's no Michael Richards one time blow-up at the mic. She seems to do it on a fairly regular basis and no matter if she does it to attract attention to herself (media whore), or if she's just a really terrible person (likely), she's still doing it on purpose.

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 04:07 PM

Like I said, I can accept an occasional slip-up followed by an apology. But she makes it a point to say the things she does. She's not stupid. There's no reason, absolutely no reason to say she wishes anybody dead.

Absolutely. We are in complete accord on this. But I was responding to the fag/hymie correlation. Neither is a "slip of the tongue." It has to be in your heart to let it slip. I'm not defending Coulter. Wrong is wrong. I just want equal treatment for both conservatives and liberals. No more. No less. I think that's a fair expectation.

58ford

06-27-2007, 04:11 PM

Astra

06-27-2007, 04:13 PM

I think Coulter just gets more attention because she has more media attention to begin with and people seem to take her more seriously. Jesse Jackson says some dumb things, but at this point I think a lot of people have just tuned him out. Does Al Franken have a TV show or anything? I haven't heard anything out of him in a long time, so maybe that's why he's below the radar. Personally I wouldn't consider him in the same league as Coulter, but that's because I see him as being more like Jay Leno or David Letterman, or at least he used to be. He was more of a comedian first and a political commentator second. Coulter doesn't have that shield of "I was just going for laughs" so when she says something people assume she means it.

Bluesman

06-27-2007, 04:16 PM

Was it Sharpton or Franken that was doing the "Air America" thing?

Astra

06-27-2007, 04:18 PM

I think Franken had a show on Air America when it first started off. No idea if it's still running or not, I'm not really a talk-radio listener.

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 04:19 PM

Agreed on all points but the last. It's a mistake only because what she's saying is wrong, but like I said, it's no slip-of-the-tongue. It's no Michael Richards one time blow-up at the mic. She seems to do it on a fairly regular basis and no matter if she does it to attract attention to herself (media whore), or if she's just a really terrible person (likely), she's still doing it on purpose.

Seems to me you just put yourself in the pot with Coulter. I'm not sure which is worse. Calling someone a fag, a media whore or a terrible person.

58ford

06-27-2007, 04:21 PM

Astra,
It's market forces at work. People like to listen to ann, so she gets bookings, she gets on radio, TV, & her books sell well. Franken on the other hand is only popular in a very small radical left wing group so his TV show failed, his radio show failed (or is in the process of failing) even though it is subsidized by radical leftists, and unless certain supporters of his had not promised to by thousands of copies his book never would have been published.

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 04:27 PM

Yeah she goes too far sometimes, but no farther than her liberal counterparts who always get a pass on their outrageous comments.
As far as her remarks about Edwards son several years ago, yeah she went a little far, but Edwards WAS milking his own sons death for all the political capital he could, & I found that equally distasteful if not more.

I think Elizabeth Edwards did the same thing with Coulter today. Son's death, cancer, pleading, please stop the personal attacks. She was playing to the audience, I believe. Otherwise a private phone call to Coulter would have gotten her much more consideration than blind-siding her on national television.

dollfus46

06-27-2007, 04:30 PM

Was it Sharpton or Franken that was doing the "Air America" thing?

Franken was the flag ship of Air America. Spewed nothing but hate.

ComputerDude

06-27-2007, 04:34 PM

Seems to me you just put yourself in the pot with Coulter. I'm not sure which is worse. Calling someone a fag, a media whore or a terrible person.
I don't have the stage she does, and if I did I certainly wouldn't stoop to her level for all the public to hear.
She says the things she says for some reason. She's not just blabbing to hear herself blab.
If she does it to garner attention for herself then she's a media-whore. (the guys mentioned in this thread that say some of the same things can be called this as well)
If she says these things just to get a rise out of people then she's a fairly terrible person (IMO)

I think Elizabeth Edwards did the same thing with Coulter today. Son's death, cancer, pleading, please stop the personal attacks. She was playing to the audience, I believe. Otherwise a private phone call to Coulter would have gotten her much more consideration than blind-siding her on national television.I disagree. If Anne feels the need to make these comments in public, then I think it's perfectly fine for the response to be public as well. If she's not called out on the things she says publicly then there will be no reason for her to stop saying the things she says.

Bluesman

06-27-2007, 04:48 PM

Franken was the flag ship of Air America. Spewed nothing but hate.
Imagine that.

petalgirl00

06-27-2007, 05:29 PM

I think Mrs. Edwards responded as a fellow citizen and a mother. There are just some things that should be sacred.

selmore

06-27-2007, 06:58 PM

I think Elizabeth Edwards did the same thing with Coulter today. Son's death, cancer, pleading, please stop the personal attacks. She was playing to the audience, I believe. Otherwise a private phone call to Coulter would have gotten her much more consideration than blind-siding her on national television.

I missed the interview, was Coulter aware that Matthews was going to have that call, or was he just salivating and hoping to get a good wack in by airing that call?

Did Elizabeth Edwards really play the "deceased-child-and-I-got-cancer" card?

FYI - Edwards made millions screwing the medical community with junk unproven (at the time) science.
A little Background: He won millions claiming that children were being killed or made autistic, by the fact that Doctors allowed natural births when they should have advised cesarean.
Guess what happened? Doctors began "defensive" medicine. Cesareans went up over the next years to guard against Edwards' tactics. Extra credit if you guess what that did to my health insurance bill?
Deep Background - To win one suit, and to pay for his 20,000 sq ft house, he actually "channeled" a deceased child, in front of the jury. Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, "Timmie would have wanted you to make these mean Doctors pay."
Now guess what....After careful study, Doctors weren't responsible after all because they've NOW proven that the Doctors were right all along. Nevermind, the damage it caused to health care, Dr's reputations, insurance, and God-only-knows what else.
How about Edwards famous talk, "If Kerry-Edwards are elected, Christopher Reeves will walk again."

Oh well, I shouldn't complain because as we know they lost a son and she has cancer.

58ford

06-27-2007, 07:36 PM

Edwards is an ass. If Ann wants to point that out what's the problem?

kevin

06-27-2007, 08:05 PM

The Edwards' has milked the death of Their son for everything it's worth.Coulter is a Good American while the Edwards are just tring to stir Drama to raise money before it's too late.I'd like to see Obama up against Ann! Matthews knew about this and tried to break ann but no dice.

58ford

06-27-2007, 08:10 PM

Obama up against Ann!
That's a match up that the leftist media will never let happen & Obama will never engage in. Obama has almost no political back ground He is an undefined babe in the woods. Nobody knows what he believes (even himself) & he has little or no experience. His only qualification for candidacy is that he is (or at least purports to be) black. Ann would eat him alive.

ComputerDude

06-27-2007, 08:24 PM

I missed the interview, was Coulter aware that Matthews was going to have that call, or was he just salivating and hoping to get a good wack in by airing that call?

Did Elizabeth Edwards really play the "deceased-child-and-I-got-cancer" card?

FYI - Edwards made millions screwing the medical community with junk unproven (at the time) science.
A little Background: He won millions claiming that children were being killed or made autistic, by the fact that Doctors allowed natural births when they should have advised cesarean.
Guess what happened? Doctors began "defensive" medicine. Cesareans went up over the next years to guard against Edwards' tactics. Extra credit if you guess what that did to my health insurance bill?
Deep Background - To win one suit, and to pay for his 20,000 sq ft house, he actually "channeled" a deceased child, in front of the jury. Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, "Timmie would have wanted you to make these mean Doctors pay."
Now guess what....After careful study, Doctors weren't responsible after all because they've NOW proven that the Doctors were right all along. Nevermind, the damage it caused to health care, Dr's reputations, insurance, and God-only-knows what else.
How about Edwards famous talk, "If Kerry-Edwards are elected, Christopher Reeves will walk again."

Oh well, I shouldn't complain because as we know they lost a son and she has cancer.I don't think people would care much about her comments, if she limited them to what she thinks about a persons politics or platforms. She can talk all day long about the stupid things Kerry has done. It was her "I wish he could have died..." comment that's stirred up the controversy.

politically incorrect

06-27-2007, 09:01 PM

MSQueen

06-27-2007, 09:58 PM

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kinda reminds me of a man... in a way... :smt102
:-D

chaz

06-27-2007, 10:12 PM

"I don't care what Ann Coulter says, she's just jealous because my hair has natural bounce and body."
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mac

06-27-2007, 10:17 PM

Even though she is a Christian she is still human. To make mistakes is human. Christians aren't perfect, they are still people too and therefore prone to mistakes just like anyone else. The only difference is that they are forgiven... Forgiven, not perfect. She is wrong to say and do some of the things she does, but so am I and so is everyone else. We all have shortcomings in our lives.

These are not slip-ups that Coulter makes on occasion. It's a deliberate choice that she makes on a regular basis. Don't defend her with the "She's just human" excuse.

Bluesman

06-28-2007, 12:22 AM

These are not slip-ups that Coulter makes on occasion. It's a deliberate choice that she makes on a regular basis. Don't defend her with the "She's just human" excuse. I wasn't defending her per se. I was replying to a statement someone else said that went something like they couldn't believe she would say something with her being a Christian and all. My point was that just because someone is a Christian does not mean that they will NEVER do no wrong. Coulter was wrong, but there are also a lot of other people that are guilty of having mouth farts as well... Me included.:smt102 People get excited and passionate and adreneline gets to flowin and then BAM!!!! Mouth fart:cussing:

mac

06-28-2007, 12:27 AM

The person didn't say they couldn't believe she did that being a Christian. They pointed out the fact that her daily behavior contradicts what she claims to hold as her religious belief.

Still, I know what you mean.

daisy

06-28-2007, 02:15 AM

Folks, I googled Ann Coulter and after reading this I will not be surprised at anything that comes out of her mouth. She says her occupation is pundit?????:confused: whatever.

She was fired from MSNBC when she told a disabled Vietnam veteran,"people like you caused us to lose that war." She was fired from the conservative National review when she turned in a column offering a final solution to the Muslim problem: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity".

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ComputerDude

06-28-2007, 07:23 AM

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 07:48 AM

These are not slip-ups that Coulter makes on occasion. It's a deliberate choice that she makes on a regular basis. Don't defend her with the "She's just human" excuse.
I'm pretty sure the rub was against Christians, not so much Ann Coulter. If she's a Christian she wouldn't........ The point is, oh yes she would. Christians have faults too. Christians don't love everybody. Christians don't always turn the other cheek, or Christians don't do this or that. I didn't take it as defending Ann as much as setting the record straight about what a Christian is. Non Christians sometimes have a distorted or incorrect idea of Christians, that's all. In fact, I don't think anyone here has defended Ann on what she said about hoping someone would die. That kinda snapped my head back.

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 07:58 AM

She was fired from MSNBC when she told a disabled Vietnam veteran,"people like you caused us to lose that war." She was fired from the conservative National review when she turned in a column offering a final solution to the Muslim problem: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity".

You didn't expect her to be able to keep her job at MSNBC did you? When the venom spewing Keith Olberman can keep his job? Talk about an unpleasan sort of fellow. Course you couldn't get FoxNews to hire Coulter either. She's over the top. I still like her.
As for her plan to end terrorism? What's wrong with that ? :smt118 Sounds like Bush took her advice in Iraq. Working? Not so much.

ComputerDude

06-28-2007, 08:17 AM

I'm pretty sure the rub was against Christians, not so much Ann Coulter.I'm sorry but you'd be wrong. Believe it or not I'm a Christian. I just prefer to worship God and Jesus away from organized religion.

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 11:08 AM

I think Mrs. Edwards responded as a fellow citizen and a mother. There are just some things that should be sacred.

Oh I don't know. Barbara Bush seems to maintain an amazingly high level of class through it all. She recognizes it for what it is and knows what to expect, without whinning about the terrible things that are/were said about her husband and her son. And no one ever came to her defense for the same reason, nor did she ask for it.

politically incorrect

06-28-2007, 11:18 AM

Keith Olbermann is the perfect example of the mainstream media double-standard. Bill O'Reily admits to being a commentator and not a reporting journalist. But Olbermann is treated as if he is just an unbiased, straight-talking journalist on MSNBC, when actually he shrills for the liberals and the Democrats each night for a full hour. He constantly insults President Bush and says snide remarks about Republican lawmakers while ignoring the sins of Democrats, but he is held up as a respected newsman. Ann Coulter spins for the conservatives and insults liberals and is made out to be a heartless Nazi.

I don't mind liberals having their own attack dogs. That is politics. But, please, let's have the same standard for everyone.

mac

06-28-2007, 12:28 PM

I'm pretty sure the rub was against Christians, not so much Ann Coulter. If she's a Christian she wouldn't........ The point is, oh yes she would. Christians have faults too. Christians don't love everybody. Christians don't always turn the other cheek, or Christians don't do this or that. I didn't take it as defending Ann as much as setting the record straight about what a Christian is. Non Christians sometimes have a distorted or incorrect idea of Christians, that's all. In fact, I don't think anyone here has defended Ann on what she said about hoping someone would die. That kinda snapped my head back.

I'm a Christian, and I didn't think it was a stab at Christians. Like I said before, he pointed out that her behavior contradicts the religious convictions she claims to live by. It does contradict that, period. Make excuses if you want. I really don't think it was an attack on you or on Christians in general.

If Ann Coulter behaved the way she behaves and didn't claim to be a Christian, you wouldn't stand behind her. I'm not going to condone her crappy behavior just because she claims to have the same religious beliefs as me.

petalgirl00

06-28-2007, 01:02 PM

Oh I don't know. Barbara Bush seems to maintain an amazingly high level of class through it all. She recognizes it for what it is and knows what to expect, without whinning about the terrible things that are/were said about her husband and her son. And no one ever came to her defense for the same reason, nor did she ask for it.

I still think Ann Coulter should show some tact in her words/actions.

I'm sure Mrs. Bush has taken issue against what has been said against her family. She just chooses to remain private.

I don't believe Mrs. Edwards asked for sympathy. She merely stated what she wanted done and how she didnt agree with Ms. Coulter. As an American citizen she has the right.

Pop

06-28-2007, 02:04 PM

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dollfus46

06-28-2007, 05:14 PM

I'm a Christian, and I didn't think it was a stab at Christians. Like I said before, he pointed out that her behavior contradicts the religious convictions she claims to live by. It does contradict that, period. Make excuses if you want. I really don't think it was an attack on you or on Christians in general.

If Ann Coulter behaved the way she behaves and didn't claim to be a Christian, you wouldn't stand behind her. I'm not going to condone her crappy behavior just because she claims to have the same religious beliefs as me.

Perhaps if I typed more slowly. N o /o n e /w a s /d e f e n d i n g /A n n ' s /a c t i o n s. Next thought process separate from the previous one:
C h r i s t a n i t y /h a s /n o t h i n g /t o /d o /w i t h /A n n ' s /f a u x /p a s. W e /a g r e e. /N o /n e e d /t o /a r g u e /t h e /p o i n t.:smt102

Guru

06-28-2007, 05:27 PM

Thanks PC. There's usually "another side to every story." Bill Mahar gets as personal as anybody. Al Franken gets nasty and gets aplause. Well, to each his own.

* I've lived many lives in my life ... it's a gray world and there are, immediately visible, at least two sides to every coin; three if you count what enfolds it; four if you count the inside . Guru ...

Guru

06-28-2007, 05:36 PM

I'm pretty sure the rub was against Christians, not so much Ann Coulter. If she's a Christian she wouldn't........ The point is, oh yes she would. Christians have faults too. Christians don't love everybody. Christians don't always turn the other cheek, or Christians don't do this or that. I didn't take it as defending Ann as much as setting the record straight about what a Christian is. Non Christians sometimes have a distorted or incorrect idea of Christians, that's all. In fact, I don't think anyone here has defended Ann on what she said about hoping someone would die. That kinda snapped my head back.

* You are most correct.
It has nothing to do with Christians.
We are very much like others, we respect nothing that we don't fear, we kill whatever is in our path to have our way, we take what we can, we rationalize it as we see fit.
The horrible stink is recognized now only due to mass media.

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 05:55 PM

I still think Ann Coulter should show some tact in her words/actions.
I think if she did, she couldn't make much of a living as a political pundit. Much like the lady who hung the handle of Dubya and Shrub on President Bush. Hardly tactful and her articles hardly worth reading if she had not used those terms. But, certain areas should be off limits. Children/family and the dead. Her job is to take Democrats and liberals apart, ridicule them and make them look bad. She's sort of the counterpart of The New York Times, Keith Olberman, Bill Mahar, Al Franken, Frank Rich, L.A. Times, and on and on. She's crossed the line once I think.
I'm sure Mrs. Bush has taken issue against what has been said against her family. She just chooses to remain private.
I think you're right. I think Elizabeth should remain silent too.

I don't believe Mrs. Edwards asked for sympathy. She merely stated what she wanted done and how she didnt agree with Ms. Coulter. As an American citizen she has the right.

She has the right. Agreed. But I think in this case, it was a planned political hit on Coulter. I don't think she was upset about personal attacks on her husband at all. She's been in campaigns before. She's not a rookie. I think it was a deliberate attempt to silence a political enemy. One who doesn't have to play by the same rules as her husband's counterparts. Here's a candidate, her husband, getting his shorts beat off him, can't raise any money. The most attention they've had was when they discovered cancer in her. Now, I can't imagine how frightening that must be, and I pray to God, that she whips it. Her children need her. But you don't think that coming on the phone, with a national audience and "pleading" with Ann to stop the attacks wasn't a poor ole me? We'll never know for sure, but I think it was. I doubt very much that she's the innocent, sweet, sick lady she tried to portray. She's not stupid.

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 06:11 PM

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2258.html

Now that was a fair and respectful interview. :smt023

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 06:24 PM

I'm a Christian, and I didn't think it was a stab at Christians. Like I said before, he pointed out that her behavior contradicts the religious convictions she claims to live by. It does contradict that, period. Make excuses if you want. I really don't think it was an attack on you or on Christians in general.

If Ann Coulter behaved the way she behaves and didn't claim to be a Christian, you wouldn't stand behind her. I'm not going to condone her crappy behavior just because she claims to have the same religious beliefs as me.

Hmmm. your behavior contradicts your Christian claims too. Actually, I was not trying to be sarcastic. I was joking. We seemed to be arguing for nothing. We agreed. I was obviously having difficulty communicating my point. That's why I became succinct. I do apologize if I was sarcastic. Sarcasm was not my intention. But I won't forget your behavior.

ComputerDude

06-28-2007, 07:13 PM

But I won't forget your behavior.
Please give an example of where he has misbehaved. All the posts of his I read were respectful and to the point.

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 07:30 PM

* You are most correct.
It has nothing to do with Christians.
We are very much like others, we respect nothing that we don't fear, we kill whatever is in our path to have our way, we take what we can, we rationalize it as we see fit.
The horrible stink is recognized now only due to mass media.

Do you really believe all that? I think mankind is much better than that. God, I hope it is.

ComputerDude

06-28-2007, 07:42 PM

Do you really believe all that? I think mankind is much better than that. God, I hope it is.I think we need to prove it to ourselves a little bit more then we have been.

And in my opinion, I don't think what he said was bad. Most likely just a very sarcastic statement. Either way I don't find what he said at all UN-Christian like.

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 07:42 PM

Please give an example of where he has misbehaved. All the posts of his I read were respectful and to the point.

I don't think I need to answer to you. My apology to Mac was made in public because it was in public that I offended him. I think it would be chickens**t of me to insult him, inadvertently, in public and apologize in private. His nasty remark was made in public too so I addressed that in public. But for you to question me is out of line, particularly when you admit you have no clue what's going on. I don't believe in an eye for an eye here. He neg repped me for what he thought was a legitimate reason. I should have given more thought to how my words would come out. I earned the neg reps by myself, and I accept them. But, I don't play tit for tat because I can, like some people.

ComputerDude

06-28-2007, 07:55 PM

Mac and Guro both defended what I said so I think it would be rude of me to not do the same for them.
It's obvious to me we have VERY different views on things and we'll probably never agree on many things. ESPECIALLY when it comes to horrid people like Anne Coulter. You seem to be taking what we're saying a little more to hear then you should be and taking persona offense to things that really aren't offensive.

particularly when you admit you have no clue what's going on.
Where did I admit this?

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 07:58 PM

I think we need to prove it to ourselves a little bit more then we have been.

And in my opinion, I don't think what he said was bad. Most likely just a very sarcastic statement. Either way I don't find what he said at all UN-Christian like.

I'm truly sorry, ComputerDude, but what post are you responding to where "he" supposedly said something "unChristian?" Who is "he" and who accused him of sayig something "UnChristian? I think you're confused and it's confusing me too;)

dollfus46

06-28-2007, 08:25 PM

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21345

Here's Ann's article concerning the bruhaha with Elizabeth for anyone who is interested.

kevin

06-28-2007, 09:07 PM

Mac true Christianity never tells someone to shove anything up their a**?That was uncalled for! Ann Slipped up you criticised her and now you've done the very same thing to Dollfus! Let's all play nice ok.Peace!

petalgirl00

06-28-2007, 09:59 PM

I think if she did, she couldn't make much of a living as a political pundit. Much like the lady who hung the handle of Dubya and Shrub on President Bush. Hardly tactful and her articles hardly worth reading if she had not used those terms. But, certain areas should be off limits. Children/family and the dead. Her job is to take Democrats and liberals apart, ridicule them and make them look bad. She's sort of the counterpart of The New York Times, Keith Olberman, Bill Mahar, Al Franken, Frank Rich, L.A. Times, and on and on. She's crossed the line once I think.

I think you're right. I think Elizabeth should remain silent too.

She has the right. Agreed. But I think in this case, it was a planned political hit on Coulter. I don't think she was upset about personal attacks on her husband at all. She's been in campaigns before. She's not a rookie. I think it was a deliberate attempt to silence a political enemy. One who doesn't have to play by the same rules as her husband's counterparts. Here's a candidate, her husband, getting his shorts beat off him, can't raise any money. The most attention they've had was when they discovered cancer in her. Now, I can't imagine how frightening that must be, and I pray to God, that she whips it. Her children need her. But you don't think that coming on the phone, with a national audience and "pleading" with Ann to stop the attacks wasn't a poor ole me? We'll never know for sure, but I think it was. I doubt very much that she's the innocent, sweet, sick lady she tried to portray. She's not stupid.
You have some good points. I dont agree with the way Ann Coulter does her job but apparently someone does. I try not to pay too much attention to the "talking heads". I read a lot of my news on various news agencies via the net so I can filter how much I hear about Iraq/Afghanistan. Better for my mental health that way lol.

ComputerDude

06-28-2007, 10:31 PM

Ann Slipped up...
When you say something stupid once to the media, it's a slip-up. When you do it over and over again, you know what we're doing.
She does NOT slip up.

CircusRide

06-28-2007, 11:04 PM

Women.............

pinkytuscadero

06-28-2007, 11:22 PM

In 1992, when President George H.W. Bush was appearing on Larry King, they allowed George Stephanopolus with the Clinton campaign to call in and blindside him the way they allowed Edwards to call in on Hardball. How many of these shows would set up a liberal politician that way? Stephanopolus later wrote in his book that the call was set up in advance. Aren't the calls supposed to be spontaneous? This shows the liberal bias of people like King and Matthews.

As for Al Franken, he is running for the U.S. Senate from Minnesota in next year's election.

It was a huge blindside. She was also asked about tiny snippets related to her books but with no context. When she asked for the entire sentence so that she may respond, Chris Matthews grilled her.

I think she goes over the line - alot. I also think the other side does as well. Bill Maher is nasty but hides it under the guise of comedy. (someone else here has said that)

I think it is sad that Stuart from Saturday Night Live is running for the US Senate. "I'm good enough, smart enough, and dog gone it, people like me!" :smt118

mac

06-29-2007, 12:50 AM

Hmmm. your behavior contradicts your Christian claims too. Actually, I was not trying to be sarcastic. I was joking. We seemed to be arguing for nothing. We agreed. I was obviously having difficulty communicating my point. That's why I became succinct. I do apologize if I was sarcastic. Sarcasm was not my intention. But I won't forget your behavior.

That's right, Dollfus, we were having a back and forth, and nobody was pissed until you made your little smartassed "let me type slowly for you" post. You can try to make it out like I'm equal to Ann Coulter for telling you to shove your sarcasm, but I didn't say a harsh word to you until you insulted me. "Succinct"? That's b.s. and you know it. Your post was insulting and condescending, and intentionally so. Please do remember my reaction, because that is exactly what you can expect the next time you decide to insult me.

Pissed or not, I'm not very good at holding grudges. I prefer to fight it out and then move on. We fought it out, so let's move on.

And I do apologize for the language I used earlier.

Astra

06-29-2007, 02:10 AM

You obviously missed Franken's drunken tirade on Bill O'Reilly.
I don't watch O'Reilly, so I obviously didn't see it on there. I didn't hear anything about it from secondary reports either.

dollfus46

06-29-2007, 07:51 AM

You have some good points. I dont agree with the way Ann Coulter does her job but apparently someone does. I try not to pay too much attention to the "talking heads". I read a lot of my news on various news agencies via the net so I can filter how much I hear about Iraq/Afghanistan. Better for my mental health that way lol.

Yeah, "someone" pays attention to her. Something like 5 New York Times Number 1 best sellers. But you probably have the right idea about where you get your news. Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a TV junkie. When one retires without a hobby.........heh heh heh. I like your idea though. I may give it a shot. :smt023

dollfus46

06-29-2007, 08:03 AM

That's right, Dollfus, we were having a back and forth, and nobody was pissed until you made your little smartassed "let me type slowly for you" post. You can try to make it out like I'm equal to Ann Coulter for telling you to shove your sarcasm, but I didn't say a harsh word to you until you insulted me. "Succinct"? That's b.s. and you know it. Your post was insulting and condescending, and intentionally so. Please do remember my reaction, because that is exactly what you can expect the next time you decide to insult me.

Pissed or not, I'm not very good at holding grudges. I prefer to fight it out and then move on. We fought it out, so let's move on.

And I do apologize for the language I used earlier.

I take it you don't accept my apology. Heh heh heh. I always agree with people by intentionally insulting them. I think it adds sparkle to the conversation. (??) Think what you will.

petalgirl00

06-29-2007, 08:40 PM

Yeah, "someone" pays attention to her. Something like 5 New York Times Number 1 best sellers. But you probably have the right idea about where you get your news. Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a TV junkie. When one retires without a hobby.........heh heh heh. I like your idea though. I may give it a shot. :smt023

I used to love tv too, then we cancelled cable. I still have withdrawels sometimes lol.

dollfus46

06-29-2007, 10:29 PM

I used to love tv too, then we cancelled cable. I still have withdrawels sometimes lol.
The thought of not having TV scares me. I think it would be easier to give up smoking, which I did.

SueScribe

06-30-2007, 05:27 PM

Ann Coulter. What a fascinating subject.

I'm a regular Hardball viewer, but when I heard that Ms. Coulter was going to be on "for the hours", outside in the sun, scoop-necked black dress and matching sunglasses set off by a crucifix hanging around her neck, I opted to watch Wolf Blitzer and the coverage of that poor family of dead Professional Wrestlers.

Did someone say this woman was a "Christian" ? Come'on. For some reason I have visions of her drawing pentagrams in the dirt and chanting incantations to The Supreme One Who Rules All, at midnight, during the full moon.

Have to say, though, she sure makes a lotta money being A Brand Name, just like Ms. Hilton and the po' ole' deahly'departed Ms. Nicole-Smith.

Ummm. *uuug-chaka-chaka-chaka* *uuuuggg . . "

SueScribe

06-30-2007, 05:31 PM

The thought of not having TV scares me

:smt104 . . . and, what does radio do for you?

dollfus46

06-30-2007, 06:13 PM

:smt104 . . . and, what does radio do for you?
I'm thinking that's a rhetorical question. Rarely turn radio on though. There's a TV going 24/7 at my house if for nothing more than company. Ian doesn't talk a lot.:)

dollfus46

06-30-2007, 06:14 PM

SueScribe

06-30-2007, 06:21 PM

For sure, Ann is like calf's liver. You love her or you hate her. Nothing in between.

So, then, it's okay for me to want to see her smothered in onions?:p

Bluesman

07-01-2007, 12:45 AM

If Ann Coulter behaved the way she behaves and didn't claim to be a Christian, you wouldn't stand behind her. I'm not going to condone her crappy behavior just because she claims to have the same religious beliefs as me.
No, I wouldn't and I'm not standing behind her now. No one is condoning her behavior. My point was and still is that just because she claims to be a Christian that she shouldn't be expected to never screw up. Yes, she screwed up and yes it was intentional.

jmack

07-01-2007, 01:00 AM

Bluesman

07-01-2007, 01:11 AM

I think all of the candidates and talk show hosts claws are comming out this time of year and saying un-Christian things. I didn't know who Ann was until this publicity stunt and I think it has probably helped sell a few more books. I find myself wanting to research more about her.
Yep, I agree wit you 100%. That is my point, they all do it so why single out one or two. If one is going to be called in on the carpet for their actions then call all of em in. No matter whether they are Rep. or Dems. Cons. or Libs, or wacko commies.:clap:

dollfus46

07-01-2007, 10:34 AM

O'Reilly asked Elizabeth to come on his show and talk about Ann Coulters's attacks and she refused. More clues to the real purpose of her coming on Chris Matthews's show. And it worked. Edwards got more donations right after that than he's had in a long time.

dollfus46

07-01-2007, 10:46 AM

No, I wouldn't and I'm not standing behind her now. No one is condoning her behavior. My point was and still is that just because she claims to be a Christian that she shouldn't be expected to never screw up. Yes, she screwed up and yes it was intentional.

I heard the tape of the show and I don't think Ann Coulter said anything out of line on Matthew's show. She didn't wish Edwards' death. Her point, in fact, was well made, I thought. In fact, from what I've heard of Edwards, he's more despicable than Ann Coulter, channeling with dead babies for money. As an aside, nothing illegal or technically wrong with it, but two, $400 haircuts is gauche. He'd have to raise taxes for us to be able to afford him. :smt118

dollfus46

07-01-2007, 10:50 AM

I think all of the candidates and talk show hosts claws are comming out this time of year and saying un-Christian things. I didn't know who Ann was until this publicity stunt and I think it has probably helped sell a few more books. I find myself wanting to research more about her.
Read a few of her books. If you're conservative, you'll find them hilarious. If you're liberal they're dangerous to you health. There's nothing socially offensive in the books. Just her take on liberalism. Godless is not a good one to start with. How to talk to a liberal if you must is good. Treason is another good one. Slander, another

jojobeans1120

07-02-2007, 08:25 AM

Coulter made the remark about Edwards being killed by terrorists because Bill Mahar said just such a remark about Vice President Cheney. Somehow liberals get away with such outrageous remarks and most go unnoticed by the media. .

Coulter made the remark about Edwards being killed by terrorists because Bill Mahar said just such a remark about Vice President Cheney. Somehow liberals get away with such outrageous remarks and most go unnoticed by the media. .

Coulter made the remark about Edwards being killed by terrorists because Bill Mahar said just such a remark about Vice President Cheney. Somehow liberals get away with such outrageous remarks and most go unnoticed by the media. .

OK, I have noticed that over and over again people are talking about what a horrible person, (out of control, Unchristian,media whore, etc) Ann Coulter is because of the statement she made. I agree, she should be a bit more careful with her words, but like many others in politics and the media, she makes a living by doing what she does. " Any coverage is good coverage" If people aren't talking about her and she's not being seen, heard, etc. She's not going to sell any books. Do I agree with her name calling? NO! Do I agree with her on issues? A lot of them, Yes!
It seems as though the point that PI made, she was MOCKING statements made about Cheney by Bill Mahar, were totally overlooked. Purposely?? :smt102 I wasn't trying to be a b*tch by using the quote three times, I just wanted to know if anyone, other than myself, saw it.
Although I saw the interview when she said this,I am not going to quote her because I cannot remember her exact words. She basically said that instead of calling him a f@g, she'd just wish death on him, like Mahar did Cheney...
Why is no one ready to burn Mahar at the steak or condemn him to hell for what he said about Cheney?
I'm not trying to come across as being ugly. I just would like to know where are the discussions or condemnations of his actions/words?