New MS laws as of July 1

[wilebill]

Kinda late with this, but some of them are significant and affect all of us, especially the last one listed below.

They include:
Paying for tuition, room and board for active military servicemen.
Requiring doctors to give sonograms to women considering abortion and offer them a chance to listen to the fetal heartbeat.
Allowing state, city and county leaders to build toll roads as long as a free alternative route exists.Yet, the biggest change for most Mississippians could be the new "Move Over" law requiring drivers to move into another lane when an emergency vehicle is stopped.
Story. (http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070701/NEWS/707010375)

I'm sure the LE's here are happy to see the "move over" law. I've always moved over when there's someone stopped on the side of the highway and have been appalled at those who don't. I'm sure most of us have seen those videos of vehicles and people on the side of the road being struck by passing vehicles.

But I'm wondering if there will be a big rush to build toll roads. In the NE these are quite common, but hardly any in the SE, with maybe the exception of Florida.

[Astra]

I'm really surprised that it wasn't a law to move over already. I was taught that you always got out of the way of emergency vehicles. Doesn't matter where they are going, chances are it's a LOT more important than where you're headed.

[threekidspa]

A law I'm surprised we don't have is one that lets the sherrif use radar along county roads.

[No-Halo]

I'm so glad the Move Over law was finally passed. :clap:

All too often we have a violator pulled over, assisting a stranded motorist or working an accident just to have someone come zipping by 3 feet from us. I've chased many down to let them know just how dangerous their actions were and how much we don't appreciate it. Until now it was left up to the driver to at least have the common sense to make this decision on their own but from now on we can help them with it. :-D

Many thanks to those of you who already take the steps to pass safely, we appreciate it. :smt023

[No-Halo]

A law I'm surprised we don't have is one that lets the sherrif use radar along county roads.
It's still being pushed Brent, maybe this year it will pass.

[cubby 1]

It's still being pushed Brent, maybe this year it will pass.
At first I was against it, but now after seeing the statistics and first hand about the accidents, I think it is neccessary

[No-Halo]

At first I was against it, but now after seeing the statistics and first hand about the accidents, I think it is neccessary

The majority of the wrecks worked in the outlying county area consist of 1 vehicle, 1 curve, 1 tree, if people knew the Sheriff's had the use of radar it might just slow a few down and save a couple of lives.

[fuzzis]

The majority of the wrecks worked in the outlying county area consist of 1 vehicle, 1 curve, 1 tree, if people knew the Sheriff's had the use of radar it might just slow a few down and save a couple of lives.

Except for those boys with tiny weinies...:smt118

[Bahlk]

It doesn't bother me. Take for instance Old Richton Rd. At one particular point close to the city limits Petal PD could run radar and catch a violator speeding. Now if he goes another 10 feet and is out of the city limits and Forrest County Deputy is there why shouldn't they be able to enforce the laws and try to protect the law abiding citizens that aren't trying to get run over.

[No-Halo]

It doesn't bother me. Take for instance Old Richton Rd. At one particular point close to the city limits Petal PD could run radar and catch a violator speeding. Now if he goes another 10 feet and is out of the city limits and Forrest County Deputy is there why shouldn't they be able to enforce the laws and try to protect the law abiding citizens that aren't trying to get run over.
It's amazing Bahlk, I can be in my ole hoopty truck headed towards town on Old Richton Rd out in the county and get passed by someone doing about 80mph headed in the same direction. Just as soon as they get to the city limit sign you see the brake lights come on and they slow down within 5-10 mph of the posted 45.

[No-Halo]

Also I called my congressman about a month ago and asked him to push for new law that makes a "Tag Light" violation a felony offense. :smt118

[No-Halo]

Well it's time to go enforce some new laws, have a great night gang.

See ya :smt006

[cubby 1]

Also I called my congressman about a month ago and asked him to push for new law that makes a "Tag Light" violation a felony offense. :smt118

I seriously hope you are joking.

[wilebill]

Also I called my congressman about a month ago and asked him to push for new law that makes a "Tag Light" violation a felony offense. :smt118I hope you asked for "shoot on sight" because you won't take me alive, copper.

[XC9]

The majority of the wrecks worked in the outlying county area consist of 1 vehicle, 1 curve, 1 tree, if people knew the Sheriff's had the use of radar it might just slow a few down and save a couple of lives. Yep, but that should be left up to the officers who don't do much anyway. No-Halo, you are a veteran (although a young one) and veterans should be patroling and 10-95n, we don't need a radar in your hands:laugh: When this happens you better leave me alone! If I am speeding it is for an important event-like my nails done or something:laugh::p:p:p

[petalgirl00]

I thought it was a law already but then again I get alot of federal on base, Maryland,Michigan, and Mississippi laws confused.

[mac]

A law I'm surprised we don't have is one that lets the sherrif use radar along county roads.

I thought they passed that in 2006.

[IGID]

I thought they passed that in 2006.It passed in one house, but the other let it die in committee.

[Imapepper]

It's amazing Bahlk, I can be in my ole hoopty truck headed towards town on Old Richton Rd out in the county and get passed by someone doing about 80mph headed in the same direction. Just as soon as they get to the city limit sign you see the brake lights come on and they slow down within 5-10 mph of the posted 45.

But I waved nicely at you as I was going around you!:laugh:

[Booshay]

No-Halo....correct me if I'm wrong but can't a sheriffs dept use radar when they are the only law enforcement for a municipality? Seems like I've heard or seen that somewhere before. For example if Poplarville had no actual police dept then the sheriffs dept could use radar in that type of situation.

[EricStratton]

I don't like the required sonogram law....I'm not for abortion, but, if the only reason a woman/girl decides to have a baby is because she got guilt tripped into it by a doctor, then that baby doesn't stand much of a chance....I don't have a problem with some required counseling for abortion candidates(?), but the required sonogram just seems sick and demented....yeah, I know, abortion seems sick and demented to many people too, but two wrongs don't make a right...

[dream member]

I don't like the required sonogram law....I'm not for abortion, but, if the only reason a woman/girl decides to have a baby is because she got guilt tripped into it by a doctor, then that baby doesn't stand much of a chance....I don't have a problem with some required counseling for abortion candidates(?), but the required sonogram just seems sick and demented....yeah, I know, abortion seems sick and demented to many people too, but two wrongs don't make a right...

We don't have enough young teen mothers in Mississippi yet- let's get a few more and really make the country squeal! :clap:

As far abortion is concerned, I'm really not going to discuss what I feel, but we did read about a study in my juvenile justice class- the conclusion was that abortion does help reduce crime (in short)...I'll get more info if anyone is interested in reading it. Basically if a child is born just because an abortion isn't allowed- by a mother and/or father who don't want that child- then chances are- the child will end up in the system whether it be the state taking the child or ending up in the kiddie slammer.

[fuzzis]

I don't like the required sonogram law....I'm not for abortion, but, if the only reason a woman/girl decides to have a baby is because she got guilt tripped into it by a doctor, then that baby doesn't stand much of a chance....I don't have a problem with some required counseling for abortion candidates(?), but the required sonogram just seems sick and demented....yeah, I know, abortion seems sick and demented to many people too, but two wrongs don't make a right...

There was an article on salon last week about Mississippi's law limiting abortion to the first 12 weeks of the pregnancy. Many women are just figuring out that they're pregnant around 12 weeks, and they find out that it's too late. Folks who don't have the money to make it to Birmingham for an abortion (transportation, over night stay, time off work, etc). Kinda sucks to think that a woman who can't scrape together roughly $600 for an abortion will be having to figure out a way to afford a child for 18 years.

[Astra]

I still can't believe that sonogram law passed for all the reasons already mentioned. It seems especially ridiculous considering that there's only one abortion clinic left in Mississippi - as it is, the majority of women who do have abortions probably go out of state and therefore would be unaffected by the law. Like Fuzzis said, the women most affected are those who couldn't afford to do otherwise and I'd guess they are probably the ones least well-equipped to deal with bringing a child into the world... and yet that is exactly what the law seems intent upon doing.

It's one of those things where I just wish the legislature would leave to the doctors and their patients. There are so many more purely legislative and economic issues they could have been addressing, and yet they spent a great deal of time on a law that in reality probably will only affect a tiny number of people (and perhaps not even positively).

[fuzzis]

It's one of those things where I just wish the legislature would leave to the doctors and their patients.

I've never understood why people think they should be able to make medical decisions for another person. Those things should be left to a woman and her doctor.

[dollfus46]

There was an article on salon last week about Mississippi's law limiting abortion to the first 12 weeks of the pregnancy. Many women are just figuring out that they're pregnant around 12 weeks, and they find out that it's too late. Folks who don't have the money to make it to Birmingham for an abortion (transportation, over night stay, time off work, etc). Kinda sucks to think that a woman who can't scrape together roughly $600 for an abortion will be having to figure out a way to afford a child for 18 years.

I'm in too good a mood to debate abortion. Besides, everyone knows how I feel about it. Any argument I might mount is repetitious. It is what it is. Legal. I just don't understand why adoption is not the, I repeat, THE, option for unwanted, unaffordable pragnancy. I'm not arguing for it. Just don't understand a problem with this solution to save a child.:confused:
Besides, at my age, my greatest dream is to be named in a paternity suit. Heh heh heh. Me know how. Me want chance. (old joke punch line)

[threekidspa]

I'm in too good a mood to debate abortion. Besides, everyone knows how I feel about it. Any argument I might mount is repetition. It is what it is. Legal. I just don't understand why adoption is not the, I repeat, THE, option for unwanted, unaffordable pragnancy. I'm not arguing for it. Just don't understand a problem with this solution to save a child.:confused:
Thats a GOOD question!

[bpitt]

They didn't pass a law about keeping your pants up around your waist?

[jessi_s]

I think the move over law is good! I do that anyways whenever I see anyone on the side of the road, not just emergency vehicles...

[bpitt]

Or, how about a law that sends illegal immigrants home.

[fuzzis]

I'm in too good a mood to debate abortion. Besides, everyone knows how I feel about it. Any argument I might mount is repetitious. It is what it is. Legal. I just don't understand why adoption is not the, I repeat, THE, option for unwanted, unaffordable pragnancy. I'm not arguing for it. Just don't understand a problem with this solution to save a child.:confused:
Besides, at my age, my greatest dream is to be named in a paternity suit. Heh heh heh. Me know how. Me want chance. (old joke punch line)

I think adoption is an option for many women, but at the same time, I think that access is another problem. Unless you get yourself hooked up with an adoption agency or someone willing to take in your child relatively quickly, then the pregnancy itself is *still* unaffordable.

A corollary to your question would be..if we're so adamant in our desire to save children, why are we promoting only abstinence based sex-education? If we want to reduce the number of abortions, why are we not making real and tangible ways of doing that readily and easily available?

[No-Halo]

I seriously hope you are joking.
I was only joking, it was a poke at a certain MH member. :-D
Yep, but that should be left up to the officers who don't do much anyway. No-Halo, you are a veteran (although a young one) and veterans should be patroling and 10-95n, we don't need a radar in your hands When this happens you better leave me alone! If I am speeding it is for an important event-like my nails done or something
I love the young one part, thanks XC :clap:
I thought it was a law already but then again I get alot of federal on base, Maryland,Michigan, and Mississippi laws confused.
I get them mixed up too, local, state, federal and Mrs Halo's. :smt118
But I waved nicely at you as I was going around you!:laugh:
Yes you did but next time use more than 1 finger. :smt103
No-Halo....correct me if I'm wrong but can't a sheriffs dept use radar when they are the only law enforcement for a municipality? Seems like I've heard or seen that somewhere before. For example if Poplarville had no actual police dept then the sheriffs dept could use radar in that type of situation.
I believe theres one city where this is allowed, D'Iblerville maybe. :smt102

[No-Halo]

I hope you asked for "shoot on sight" because you won't take me alive, copper.
No sense in going to prison over a tag light but just in case you do heres a little something to make those long nights pass a little easier...

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[dream member]

I'm in too good a mood to debate abortion. Besides, everyone knows how I feel about it. Any argument I might mount is repetitious. It is what it is. Legal. I just don't understand why adoption is not the, I repeat, THE, option for unwanted, unaffordable pragnancy. I'm not arguing for it. Just don't understand a problem with this solution to save a child.:confused:
Besides, at my age, my greatest dream is to be named in a paternity suit. Heh heh heh. Me know how. Me want chance. (old joke punch line)

I think adoption would be a great idea, but the cost is too high. My friend said it costed him and his wife well over $10,000 to adopt their child. Of course we also have these Hollywood stars adopting kids from around the world- but that's something else entirely! :smt118

[Bluesman]

I think adoption is an option for many women, but at the same time, I think that access is another problem. Unless you get yourself hooked up with an adoption agency or someone willing to take in your child relatively quickly, then the pregnancy itself is *still* unaffordable.

A corollary to your question would be..if we're so adamant in our desire to save children, why are we promoting only abstinence based sex-education? If we want to reduce the number of abortions, why are we not making real and tangible ways of doing that readily and easily available?
There are people waiting in line for newborns and it don't take much looking to find them either. There are some that will even "pay" for the mother's medical expenses during the pregnancy as well.

[dream member]

There are people waiting in line for newborns and it don't take much looking to find them either. There are some that will even "pay" for the mother's medical expenses during the pregnancy as well.

I know a girl who got pregnant while she was in the military- in Iraq. Of course they sent her home IMMEDIATELY! A family came from across the country to adopt the child and she changed her mind that night- they were going to pay for the hospital bills for her and the baby. She ended up keeping the kid and using him against her family...then one day just went out and gave him up for adoption- knowing her family would take him if she didn't want him.

[fuzzis]

There are people waiting in line for newborns and it don't take much looking to find them either. There are some that will even "pay" for the mother's medical expenses during the pregnancy as well.

As I said, unless you get hooked up with one of those folks fairly early on, pregnancy is still expensive. And unfortunately, I think you're underestimating how easy it is to find those folks...

[dollfus46]

Kinda late with this, but some of them are significant and affect all of us, especially the last one listed below.

Story. (http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070701/NEWS/707010375)

I'm sure the LE's here are happy to see the "move over" law. I've always moved over when there's someone stopped on the side of the highway and have been appalled at those who don't. I'm sure most of us have seen those videos of vehicles and people on the side of the road being struck by passing vehicles.

But I'm wondering if there will be a big rush to build toll roads. In the NE these are quite common, but hardly any in the SE, with maybe the exception of Florida.
Pretty sad when they have to pass a law to cover common sense. Sheeeesh.:smt086

[dream member]

Pretty sad when they have to pass a law to cover common sense. Sheeeesh.:smt086

Well at least now they can be arrested for lack of common sense!! :clap::smt118

My dad taught me to move for ANYONE- not just cops. I was on the side of I75 in FL with a flat tire...2 dogs in the car- coming home from our evacuation of Katrina. Nothing nice when d*cks won't move even though the left lane is OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[dollfus46]

There was an article on salon last week about Mississippi's law limiting abortion to the first 12 weeks of the pregnancy. Many women are just figuring out that they're pregnant around 12 weeks, and they find out that it's too late. Folks who don't have the money to make it to Birmingham for an abortion (transportation, over night stay, time off work, etc). Kinda sucks to think that a woman who can't scrape together roughly $600 for an abortion will be having to figure out a way to afford a child for 18 years.
I can appreciate the girls predicament. I'll at least listen to an argument for abortion before twelve weeks, but at 12 weeks it's a joke to try to rationalize you aren't killing a living being by any standards. Life is a series of choices. We can't always etch-a-sketch away our bad ones.:(

[XC9]

I can appreciate the girls predicament. I'll at least listen to an argument for abortion before twelve weeks, but at 12 weeks it's a joke to try to rationalize you aren't killing a living being by any standards. Life is a series of choices. We can't always etch-a-sketch away our bad ones.:( Etch a Scetch won't work for this. Condom-a sketch would be a great alternative. A friend who works with abused children brought this to attention at a church discussion group-a ten year old child had been raped and she turned up pregnant. Is it fair to make this child have a baby when her ten year old body really isn't ready? Is rape a good enough reason? Age? I totally understood this girls rationalization on abortion for this specific problem. Even as far as adoption-what is the ten year old going to go through physically and mentally by having this baby concieved by rape. This is a no win situation for all involved. I still pray for the whole situation and all involved because it is terribly sad. I will say that I am pulled apart about my beliefs in abortion when I hear a story like this.:(

[threekidspa]

Etch a Scetch won't work for this. Condom-a sketch would be a great alternative. A friend who works with abused children brought this to attention at a church discussion group-a ten year old child had been raped and she turned up pregnant. Is it fair to make this child have a baby when her ten year old body really isn't ready? Is rape a good enough reason? Age? I totally understood this girls rationalization on abortion for this specific problem. Even as far as adoption-what is the ten year old going to go through physically and mentally by having this baby concieved by rape. This is a no win situation for all involved. I still pray for the whole situation and all involved because it is terribly sad. I will say that I am pulled apart about my beliefs in abortion when I hear a story like this.:(

I think mostly everyone agrees that there are some cases where an abortion is the right thing to do, as in the one you describe. What I'm trying to understand is why adoption isn't promoted as THE preferred choice when a woman is faced with an elective abortion.

[Astra]

I think mostly everyone agrees that there are some cases where an abortion is the right thing to do, as in the one you describe. What I'm trying to understand is why adoption isn't promoted as THE preferred choice when a woman is faced with an elective abortion.
I think it depends on who you are looking to for the "promoting." If a woman is at the clinic to have an abortion, I'd say chances are she's already made her mind up or is at the very least strongly leaning in that direction. If she's called one of those "help lines" the churches here run, she's probably more likely to be looking for adoption.