View Full Version : What do you think really happened to Natalee Holloway?
Baloo
07-22-2007, 02:24 AM
Natalee Holloway (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Natalee Holloway');) died from cardiac arrest caused by an accidental drug overdose, a source has told The O'Reilly Factor.
"The Factor has learned from sources we have to protect that Natalee Holloway, the 18-year-old Alabama woman who disappeared two years ago in Aruba, died from cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of cocaine," Bill O'Reilly (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Bill O'Reilly');) said on his Thursday program.
The theory offered by the source, a top law enforcement official, could not be confirmed independently because Holloway's body has not been found.
I haven't seen anything new on Natalee's case in so long, this cocaine theory seems pretty far fetched to me. I am more believing that she was drugged through her drinks by one of the three boys they had in custody and that those three know what really happened. What do you think really happened in Aruba? My heartfelt prayers go out to her family, who I am sure are still tormented with questions of what really happened to their child. I hope that one day Natalee's case is solved and that her parents can bring her body home for a proper burrial and that the ones responsible for her death are convicted and sent to jail for life.
Astra
07-22-2007, 03:10 AM
I don't think anyone will ever know for sure what happened to her and I'm skeptical of the coke theory. There's really no evidence to support any theory at this point. I could call in and say I know that she was abducted by miniature pink elephants from Pluto and be on just about equal standing as any other scenario as far as evidence goes.
I also wonder why a "top law enforcement official" would choose to tip off a TV show instead of Aruba or US authorities. Then again, even without evidence, this thing has been pretty much decided by the media. Someone has to pay... but what if it turns out her death was an overdose, or accidental?
If anything, I wish more people would have looked at the Holloway case and thought twice about sending their darling angel children off on high school spring break trips to the Caribbean. It's a nice place to visit, but it's also a really good place for a kid to do some stupid things and get into major trouble, and the fact that the United States doesn't have jurisdiction makes it even worse. These girls forgot that, they let their guard down and lost track of each other, and one of them didn't come back.
daisy
07-22-2007, 05:19 AM
I don't think anyone will ever know for sure what happened to her and I'm skeptical of the coke theory. There's really no evidence to support any theory at this point. I could call in and say I know that she was abducted by miniature pink elephants from Pluto and be on just about equal standing as any other scenario as far as evidence goes.
I also wonder why a "top law enforcement official" would choose to tip off a TV show instead of Aruba or US authorities. Then again, even without evidence, this thing has been pretty much decided by the media. Someone has to pay... but what if it turns out her death was an overdose, or accidental?
If anything, I wish more people would have looked at the Holloway case and thought twice about sending their darling angel children off on high school spring break trips to the Caribbean. It's a nice place to visit, but it's also a really good place for a kid to do some stupid things and get into major trouble, and the fact that the United States doesn't have jurisdiction makes it even worse. These girls forgot that, they let their guard down and lost track of each other, and one of them didn't come back.
I bet some of the parents didn't even know our laws don't apply there before sending their kids there.
I was asked who I would be with and all still at that age. Well, at least until I was 17. Then my mother asked after Dad died. Some requests were refused by my Dad and later Mom. He would explain it wasn't me as much as the situations or other people I would be around.
dollfus46
07-22-2007, 09:19 AM
Actually, I think the cocaine theory sounds quite plausible to me. Cocaine, drugs of some kind. Pick your poison. Something the rich kid said about it has stuck in my mind for some reason. He said, "Something bad happened." I deduced from this back then, that 1. He knows what happened and 2. He didn't kill her. "Something bad happened" sounds removed from him being directly involved. So if she dropped dead from an overdose, that would be "something bad". They were walking along the beach, and something bad happened. She dropped dead. The kids panicked. I don't think any of them killed her. They had no reason. Slave trade? Perhaps. I leaned toward that for awhile. But now this makes sense to me. Natalee was a wild child to begin with. I'm not judging her as being a bad girl. Just a bit on the wild side. Happens.
eyescene
07-22-2007, 11:44 AM
Read this (http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm)!
Paulus, Joran's father, is a Judge, and if Natalee simply overdosed, they wouldn't have panicked over the body. Something happened, and Joran killed her, which explained Joran's black eye (http://judicial-inc.biz/J_oran_va_der_sloot_supplement.htm#black%20eye), the missing bloody shoes, and the need to bleach the house and the Acura's trunk.
The real key here is, the fact they had to destroy the body.
If she overdosed on cocaine, why is her body missing? It doesn't make sense. If it was accidental, there's no reason for her body to be hidden.
dollfus46
07-22-2007, 12:07 PM
Whatever the real cause of death, the true felony crime here, was disposing of her body instead of contacting appropreiate authorities.
I think you're dead-on here, Hawkster.
dollfus46
07-22-2007, 12:11 PM
Read this (http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm)!
Paulus, Joran's father, is a Judge, and if Natalee simply overdosed, they wouldn't have panicked over the body. Something happened, and Joran killed her, which explained Joran's black eye (http://judicial-inc.biz/J_oran_va_der_sloot_supplement.htm#black%20eye), the missing bloody shoes, and the need to bleach the house and the Acura's trunk.
The real key here is, the fact they had to destroy the body.
Whoa! I never heard any of that stuff. Black eye, missing bloody shoes, bleached house and car? If shoes are missing..................? I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, I just missed all that somewhere.
dollfus46
07-22-2007, 12:14 PM
If she overdosed on cocaine, why is her body missing? It doesn't make sense. If it was accidental, there's no reason for her body to be hidden.
Just when I solve the case, some smartie pants comes along and blows my air-tight solution out of the water.:smt118 On the other hand, 'spose Juron was the one who loaded her up with the drugs and there were witnesses that he did. Wouldn't he have to share some culpability here for her death, accident or not? I ono. Hard to get in someone's head at that point.
eyescene
07-22-2007, 12:21 PM
Whoa! I never heard any of that stuff. Black eye, missing bloody shoes, bleached house and car? If shoes are missing..................? I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, I just missed all that somewhere. Neither have I. I didn't write the web page, just gave the link!!! So maybe there is more we haven't heard. :smt102:smt102
Astra
07-22-2007, 12:34 PM
Read this (http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm)!
Paulus, Joran's father, is a Judge, and if Natalee simply overdosed, they wouldn't have panicked over the body. Something happened, and Joran killed her, which explained Joran's black eye (http://judicial-inc.biz/J_oran_va_der_sloot_supplement.htm#black%20eye), the missing bloody shoes, and the need to bleach the house and the Acura's trunk.
The real key here is, the fact they had to destroy the body.
That page certainly walks you through its theory and all, but notice it doesn't reference any outside sources at all for its information, just to other pages on the same site. You also might be in for a shock if you go to that site's main page. (http://judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm) It's an anti-Jew conspiracy site :(
If she overdosed on cocaine, why is her body missing? It doesn't make sense. If it was accidental, there's no reason for her body to be hidden.
There isn't a reason, but people do stupid things when they panic. If she did OD, maybe it happened in the presence of someone who was afraid of getting busted for something else, or just freaked out and afraid they would get charged with murder just for being nearby. Reason isn't always a factor, especially if drugs were involved.
Really, as far as anyone knows, she went swimming and got eaten by a shark. I know one guy who is convinced she was kidnapped as part of a human slave trading operation. There's just nothing concrete to base anything on.
Conveyor Belt
07-22-2007, 12:53 PM
I think she disappeared. I believe THAT'S what happened to her!
Baloo
07-22-2007, 05:02 PM
Wow eyescene! What a link!!! I have not ever seen anything like that before, but it does all make sense... CB, you are right there buddy... I still wonder, do you ever think that we will find out what really happened to her??? I think that one of the Kalpoe boys will crack one of these days and tell us what really happened....
Well MAYBE she was abducted by aliens.
dollfus46
07-22-2007, 05:36 PM
Well MAYBE she was abducted by aliens.
Outer space or South of the Border?
eyescene
07-22-2007, 11:54 PM
That page certainly walks you through its theory and all, but notice it doesn't reference any outside sources at all for its information, just to other pages on the same site. You also might be in for a shock if you go to that site's main page. (http://judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm) It's an anti-Jew conspiracy site :(
No I never looked at the front page. I'm not anti-Jew just posted the link! :)
firefly
07-23-2007, 12:56 AM
I think that she was slipped some rufies in her drink & raped, then murdered. I think that Jorn & the Kalpoe brothers all know what happened to her because they were the ones who did it. JMO
Baloo
07-23-2007, 01:05 AM
I think that she was slipped some rufies in her drink & raped, then murdered. I think that Jorn & the Kalpoe brothers all know what happened to her because they were the ones who did it. JMO
I agree firefly... I can't imagine the details, but I do think that they were all involved...
politically incorrect
07-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Like others have said, I don't know what happened, no one does. However, my theory is more in line with some kind of accidental overdose or reaction to some kind of drug they gave her. They panicked and decided to get rid of the body. Just because the kid's dad is a judge does not mean he would not be scared that an American girl had died while partying with him. They probably took her body out to sea and weighted it down. I hate to think that her parents will never have true closure in this case, but it looks that way.
I hope that other parents will think twice before letting their teenagers go to places like this and run loose. Or, run loose here, for that matter.
Astra
07-23-2007, 01:48 AM
No I never looked at the front page. I'm not anti-Jew just posted the link! :)
I didn't say you were, but that site certainly is. You should be careful about sending people to read stuff like that if you aren't familiar with the site it comes from - it would be very easy for someone to assume you were a regular reader if they didn't realize you just found the page while searching for information on one subject.
Given that whatever whackjob writes for the site blames everything on the Jews, I wouldn't take much of anything they say seriously. There are a lot of accusations lobbed at people on there and the only cites they provide at all are links to their own website.
dollfus46
07-23-2007, 10:00 AM
I didn't say you were, but that site certainly is. You should be careful about sending people to read stuff like that if you aren't familiar with the site it comes from - it would be very easy for someone to assume you were a regular reader if they didn't realize you just found the page while searching for information on one subject.
I think you might be over reacting. If people want to think I'm antisemitic because of something like this, they're the stupid ones and I couldn't care less what they think. People are too quick to judge many times. My thoughts here are, I am who I am and no one can change me by thinking differently. It's their problem. Not mine. Of course we older folk get that way. :smt118
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