View Full Version : Help> I am so mad I could spit nails. Family and Land
daisy
07-22-2007, 05:18 PM
What happened to the GOOD OLE DAYS or am I dreaming and there never was any when family and land division is involved?????
I have a whole background of trying to work fairly and divide a land parcel of 100 acres into 2 parcels of equal value.
I even found a wise man who is experienced in appraisals, surveying who would have mediated with me and the other cousin for $$$$1500. He fired us. Well, he saw that the situation was undoable_____ (No, I am not the one that sent drawings of what he should do to accomodate a cousin with no legal interests in all this.) ____ and had told me upfront that he would not take it if he saw it was that way.
He knew my grandad and used to go there and ride horses. He was doing this as a favor because I was at the end of my rope. He is in real estate and a wise man of integrity. He said life is too short.
I just laughed and said it is pretty bad when the land mediator fires you. I know I have a strange sense of humor.
I have had it with this and will listen to what ever the person buying it suggests but if it is family and the way it has been, I feel I will get a better deal in a court. I could be wrong and if it is reasonable and fair to my famly's side, I will sign.
Yes, I have spoken with a land attorney and he will line somewhere up there in that county to represent us if we need to.
Anyone ever had to sue for land partitionment or been sued?????
Please don't tell me to sit down and draw straws. This is way beyond that and I don't trust the family based on my dealings and the way my side has been pushed to the side to accomodate the person that wanted the old house and the choice 10 acres. The unlegal cousin. I mean she has no legal interest in this parcel of land. She has the wants but not the legals.
Family and land.
A friend's late husband,a family attorney said more men have been shot over whiskey, women, landlines and hunting dogs.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Anyway, the land is maybe being sold to an upfront cousin, a neighbor or put on the market.
i just need your prayers if nothing else or a joke if you have no advice.:smt086
carsalesguy
07-22-2007, 05:22 PM
i say just sell what ya got- then go out and buy you a new car. like a nissan or a lincoln or a mercury.
make ya feel a lot better
threekidspa
07-22-2007, 05:23 PM
A friend's late husband,a family attorney said more men have been shot over whiskey, women, landlines and hunting dogs.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
You need to add water rights to the list of feuding offenses. :smt118
I hear you tho. I'd do almost anything to not have to do business with family.
daisy
07-22-2007, 05:28 PM
I'm in the same situation and it ain't worth a damn.
Fotno, I am so sorry. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
daisy
07-22-2007, 05:30 PM
i say just sell what ya got- then go out and buy you a new car. like a nissan or a lincoln or a mercury.
make ya feel a lot better
Carsales guy, thanks for the laugh.
it would have to have tires that can resist nails or so I am told????? from the access road.
I would like to just drive away. A convertible????
daisy
07-22-2007, 05:31 PM
[quote=Brent_G;295815]You need to add water rights to the list of feuding offenses. :smt118
I hear you tho. I'd do almost anything to not have to do business with family.[/quoteWater rights. Good one.:laugh::laugh:
We do have mineral rights and will keep those if I sell.
Hermione
07-22-2007, 06:06 PM
Bless your heart. They say that sharing an estate is one way to get the true measure of a person. When my sister died, I saw the best and the worst . . . such a shame.
I'm no help either. I"ve had several lots of land and a fairly nice house just off the beach on the coast in probate for a couple of years now. I know there will be a settlement but I'm just waiting them out for a reasonable offer to me. Reasonable means I'm gonna get it and stick it so far in the back of the bank I will forget about it.
daisy
07-22-2007, 06:32 PM
Thanks all ya'll and keep it coming.
I think I needed to vent and just laugh. Except for this situation, I like all the cousins.
People are all emotional about this. Family land and all.:smt103
daisy
07-22-2007, 07:14 PM
Down in the boondocks next to Stone and George County. Used to have beautiful fields , black angus, and pecan trees( still there).
carsalesguy
07-22-2007, 08:34 PM
kinda stupid- i say you all sell the land and split the profits.
or get the other cousin to go ahead and buy you out-
No-Halo
07-22-2007, 08:47 PM
Thanks all ya'll and keep it coming.
I think I needed to vent and just laugh. Except for this situation, I like all the cousins.
People are all emotional about this. Family land and all.:smt103
Good luck with it Ms Daisy, maybe it'll turn out in your favor. :clap:
firefly
07-23-2007, 12:08 AM
Good luck, Daisy! I am dealing with a house & the land that it sits on & TOXIC siblings(my neuro docs name for them! LOL! And she told me that I need to divorce myself from those TOXIC people!) Family can drive you insane, believe me I know!:smt118
daisy
07-23-2007, 04:39 AM
Good luck, Daisy! I am dealing with a house & the land that it sits on & TOXIC siblings(my neuro docs name for them! LOL! And she told me that I need to divorce myself from those TOXIC people!) Family can drive you insane, believe me I know!:smt118
Firefly, I thought you were going to say toxic dump. Well, if you divorce yourself from them I hope you do well in the settlement.:smt103 Kidding.
I recommend a land lawyer to talk to. If you need one pm me. we
Maybe we should all go shoot our shotgun at our land and find Texas Tea like Ole Jed Clampett on Beverly Hillbillies. [[{[{ DO NOT TRY OR YOU COULD HURT YOURSELF<PLEASE!!!]]}]] OIL is what I mean.:smt118
Fish-Bait
07-23-2007, 08:13 AM
If you want to be mean to em' (which I doubt you do) cuz' of they way they are actin', then tie it up in court and keep puttin' off the court date for 3 or 4 years. Eventually they will get p.o.ed' enough to want to have a reasonable discussion and settlement. Put dem' big girl panties on!!!!
dollfus46
07-23-2007, 08:38 AM
Good luck, Daisy! I am dealing with a house & the land that it sits on & TOXIC siblings(my neuro docs name for them! LOL! And she told me that I need to divorce myself from those TOXIC people!) Family can drive you insane, believe me I know!:smt118
I'm with firefly. Cousins are a dime a dozen. Have her disappear and enjoy the land and the rest of your life. Seems simple enough to me.:smt118 Call:
The Dollfus Magic Company
"We make things (and a$$holes) disappear.
OLDLADY
07-23-2007, 01:20 PM
My first thought when reading this....What if Daisy and Fotno are cousins??? Get it? There's a laugh for ya, Daisy.....
daisy
07-23-2007, 05:32 PM
My first thought when reading this....What if Daisy and Fotno are cousins??? Get it? There's a laugh for ya, Daisy.....
Who knows? Maybe we are. I don't know my whole family tree on my daddy's side? My grandmother was adopted and raised by her uncle. And who knows?
Oh, OLD LADY, I finally got it. That would be funny. No, Fotno has another situation not related to mine. But, who knows?
No, my land is being home to wildlife and critters and trees. :clap:They need a place to live.:laugh:
Fish-Bait
07-23-2007, 06:36 PM
No, my land is being home to wildlife and critters and trees. :clap:They need a place to live.:laugh:
And some of us might need a place to hunt.......:-D
Jenny Says
07-25-2007, 03:50 PM
I feel your pain.
We were in a real estate business with my husband's cousin. He was a general contractor and built spec houses for the business. He embezzled over 150K, leaving us with an 40% finished spec house that he borrowed the complete amount on without ever driving another nail. This was a loan that was personally guaranteed by us, himself and another partner. As soon as we realized there was a problem, we sold several duplexes we had built and made a 56K profit, he took that money, too. It was a hot mess and caused alot of sleepless nights. I will never, and will kill my husband if he ever suggests another thing again, ever ever ever go into business with a family member as long as I live. I wish evil things upon that low life, I truly do, but I do believe that his day will come.
We are out of that mess now. We had to sell some land, etc., and in the end ended up owing the bank 17K, which we paid off two months ago.
We had a very viable, profitable thing going for some time until the cousin got sticky fingers and he hid his embezzlement quite well for as long as he could, just long enough to almost sink my family's entire future.
daisy
07-25-2007, 04:19 PM
I feel your pain.
We were in a real estate business with my husband's cousin. He was a general contractor and built spec houses for the business. He embezzled over 150K, leaving us with an 40% finished spec house that he borrowed the complete amount on without ever driving another nail. This was a loan that was personally guaranteed by us, himself and another partner. As soon as we realized there was a problem, we sold several duplexes we had built and made a 56K profit, he took that money, too. It was a hot mess and caused alot of sleepless nights. I will never, and will kill my husband if he ever suggests another thing again, ever ever ever go into business with a family member as long as I live. I wish evil things upon that low life, I truly do, but I do believe that his day will come.
We are out of that mess now. We had to sell some land, etc., and in the end ended up owing the bank 17K, which we paid off two months ago.
We had a very viable, profitable thing going for some time until the cousin got sticky fingers and he hid his embezzlement quite well for as long as he could, just long enough to almost sink my family's entire future.
I am sorry that happened to you and your family, Jenny.
I am glad you got through it and on the other end of it now. I don't blame you for drawing those lines to protect your sanity and financial assets.
Take care.
Jenny Says
07-25-2007, 04:46 PM
Just try to remember while going through this that this too, shall pass. Perhaps only to be replaced by something completely different, but it will pass.
I really have alot to be thankful for. Our situation at times seemed so dire and there just never seemed to be any light at the end of the tunnel. We never thought we'd get out of it. The personal guarantee was such that if the partner (the one who stole the money in the first place) jumped ship, we'd be liable for the entire amount. We even considered filing bankruptcy before the new laws went into effect, etc. It just seemed hopeless. With faith, perseverance, and my threatening the bank president (they completely ignored their fiduciary duty by doling out the construction loan money without even going to the property and inspecting) with being reported, we finally got headway. The president of the bank was holding us back anytime we'd find an interested buyer of the incomplete home, which allowed him to amass more interest on the loan... Did I mention it was a hot mess? I finally got fed up and called him with my demands and from that day forward things started rolling in our favor. Well, they still made a bucketload of interest and such, but it got us moving in a forward motion to get out of all of it. I sigh a sigh of relief and thank God everyday that all that is behind us now.
So, just stick it out, stick to your guns and don't be afraid to put the smack-down were needed. Seems it worked for me, I was rippin pissed and I just let everyone involved know I was ready to give them a fight they'd never seen. Our other partner to this day says that if I'd not made a few choice phone calls, we'd still probably be in that mess today. Stand up for yourself if you are in the right where anything is concerned. Don't play the patsy, things might get a little nasty, but if you've been done wrong, they deserve a little hardball.
People just let family run all over them. I know I did, but never again. They'll take advantage of you any chance they can get if your best interests aren't in their hearts.
daisy
07-25-2007, 09:12 PM
Jenny and all others, I am fine now.
I just needed to vent and a laugh or two. :smt103:confused:I am over it and don't need to do anything.
I am too old to be a patsy and I am not in this alone.:smt023
It's my land and I am happy providing a home to all God's creatures. :smt023 When I was there one day with the appraiser, I sat in his truck and saw birds I didn't know. I decided it will be their home for now.
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