Byrd wins 104 over King

[BlueDogDemocrat]

Thank you, voters of 104.

[TDaleBeavers]

Another vote for cheap cigarettes and high grocery taxes! Way to go 104!

[Tully Mars]

Another vote for cheap cigarettes and high grocery taxes! Way to go 104!

Exactly what in the hell is that supposed to mean? Do you even know Larry Byrd? Is Chad King a "close personal friend"? Sorry TD but I have to call foul on that one.

So a guy who has actually had a job beat a guy who has never had a job. Go figure.

[TDaleBeavers]

Byrd was the only candidate of the four candidates who opposes the tax swap legislation, which was pointed out by the Hattiesburg American and I heard it from it own mouth at the AARP forum. Further, in my opinion, Byrd had the least command of the issues at that forum. I have no doubt he's a good man, and I congratulate him on his victory, but like some others, I wasn't impressed with him.

[Pirate_129]

Another vote for cheap cigarettes and high grocery taxes! Way to go 104!

....and the jelousy monster rears it's ugly head. Perhaps you could respect the wishes of the voters of 104. Start there and then work on doing the same in 101. :-D

[BlueDogDemocrat]

Byrd was the only candidate of the four candidates who opposes the tax swap legislation, which was pointed out by the Hattiesburg American and I heard it from it own mouth at the AARP forum. Further, in my opinion, Byrd had the least command of the issues at that forum. I have no doubt he's a good man, and I congratulate him on his victory, but like some others, I wasn't impressed with him.

Over 70% of District 101 wasn't impressed with you. And really, what standing do you have to say whether or not someone has "command of the issues"? Based on that half-ass MH platform you failed to defend when challenged , I'd say you don't know a damn thing about "the issues."

You don't get command of the issues (or elected to office) by memorizing legislative news from magnoliareport.com. Instead, you get command of the issues (and elected) by garnering practical experience and building personal relationships with people.

[BlueDogDemocrat]

Ok, I cry foul. I can't say that I believe Larry Byrd was experienced and I can't say I believe that Chad King was successful as he was as a result of political nepotism? That is not foul nor is it personal. Give me a break!

This censorship crap is getting OUT OF CONTROL!!!!

[Honey]

I know Larry and his wife from when I lived in Petal and they are good people. Please explain the high grocery tax thing you refered to. I'm a little confused about that.

[BlueDogDemocrat]

I know Larry and his wife from when I lived in Petal and they are good people. Please explain the high grocery tax thing you refered to. I'm a little confused about that.

He's talking about Larry opposing the plan to raise taxes on smokes so the state can lower sales tax on groceries. Please, don't get your facts from the Eager Beaver. He doesn't know what the hell he is talking about and he will post a 10 page post with a bunch of mundane facts that will make you want to scream.

[BlueDogDemocrat]

Ooops, I was suppose to be trying to ignore the Beaver. I forgot.

[politically incorrect]

Ok, let me say this and I will be done. Most of you don't know squat about Chad King, Tom King, or any of their family. I do. Chad ran a clean campaign and faced not one, but three opponents in the run-off - Byrd and the two candidates who lost in the primary. They were actively helping Byrd all the way through election day.

There was plenty of dirt that could have been thrown about against Byrd and the other two during the race, but Chad chose to stay clean and on the issues. He HAS a job and has had jobs. He has worked his way through college for the past three years after his parents told him he would have to pay his own way. He has matured from the first two years of his college experience when, like so many others, he did enjoy campus life a little too much. What about the other candidates? Besides spreading rumors about Chad, what is their character like? I don't want to get this thread banned, so I won't get into it. But, if people come on here and throw about unfounded comments about Chad, I will respond and tell ALL.

Byrd won. Congratulations to him. I think Chad did pretty damn good for a newcomer who so many people worked so hard to oppose. He has a great future ahead of him. Byrd can serve his one term and come back and run for supervisor like he really wanted to this time.

[Honey]

PC,
I heard Chad speak at a republican meeting and he did a good job. And I think he probably has a future in politics. And I do remember Larry telling my hubby a long time ago that he would like to be supervisor. If I remember correctly I think he did run against...oh I can't think of his name right now. Maybe Lynn is his name.

[TDaleBeavers]

Larry Byrd did run against Lynn Cartlidge for Forrest County Supervisor four years ago and won around 30 percent of the vote in a 3 candidate race as best I can recall.

[aaron]

Ok, I cry foul. I can't say that I believe Larry Byrd was experienced and I can't say I believe that Chad King was successful as he was as a result of political nepotism? That is not foul nor is it personal. Give me a break!

This censorship crap is getting OUT OF CONTROL!!!!

It's pretty simple. I try to keep things civil around here. That is usually impossible, but creating an entire thread just to rub it in the other candidate's face that they lost is not going to fly. I've had enough trouble from political threads around here, and yours wasn't ever going to help the situation.

[Tully Mars]

I do know both Chad and Tom and like and respect both of them. I think that this race was a good opportunity for Chad to get his feet wet in the political arena but honestly don't think that he is quite ready. Do I think he will get there someday soon? Absolutely! I know that he had a lot of support in the area and a lot of that was attributed to Tom's relationships and connections. However, Larry also has a lot of support in 104 (obviously) and it appears that his supporters held strong. Larry was also able to appeal to an older voting demographic that tends to be a bit more consistent in voting (i.e. they always go to the polls) as opposed to some of the younger voters who might have supported Chad but didn't make it in to vote. I would venture to say that if you were able to run a demographic profile of the voters on Tuesday you would find that the median age is probably 35-40+

The bottom line however, is whether or not Larry can now perform in Jackson on par with his constituent's expectations. If not, I would expect that Chad will have a very good chance of taking the seat next election.

Ok, let me say this and I will be done. Most of you don't know squat about Chad King, Tom King, or any of their family. I do. Chad ran a clean campaign and faced not one, but three opponents in the run-off - Byrd and the two candidates who lost in the primary. They were actively helping Byrd all the way through election day.

There was plenty of dirt that could have been thrown about against Byrd and the other two during the race, but Chad chose to stay clean and on the issues. He HAS a job and has had jobs. He has worked his way through college for the past three years after his parents told him he would have to pay his own way. He has matured from the first two years of his college experience when, like so many others, he did enjoy campus life a little too much. What about the other candidates? Besides spreading rumors about Chad, what is their character like? I don't want to get this thread banned, so I won't get into it. But, if people come on here and throw about unfounded comments about Chad, I will respond and tell ALL.

Byrd won. Congratulations to him. I think Chad did pretty damn good for a newcomer who so many people worked so hard to oppose. He has a great future ahead of him. Byrd can serve his one term and come back and run for supervisor like he really wanted to this time.

[politically incorrect]

However, Larry also has a lot of support in 104 (obviously) and it appears that his supporters held strong. Larry was also able to appeal to an older voting demographic that tends to be a bit more consistent in voting (i.e. they always go to the polls) as opposed to some of the younger voters who might have supported Chad but didn't make it in to vote.

I think overconfidence in the minds of some of those who voted for Chad the first time around also played a part. I think some of them thought that since he led the primary, he would have an easy time winning the run-off, so they just didn't bother to go vote. I know of one lady who, when asked by a campaign supporter why she had not gone and voted by the early afternoon Tuesday replied, "Well, I have his sign in my yard. I am supporting him." She did not view the actual act of voting as being as important as having a sign in her yard!

Folks, no matter who you vote for - go vote! It is the only way your voice gets counted.

[TDaleBeavers]

As I alluded to earlier, that overconfidence, if it existed, was misplaced. In run-off elections turnouts tend to be lower, and those that do turn out tend to be older voters, which would be more inclined to vote for an older candidate, in this case Byrd. Last fall, we saw this in the Judge Dale-Win Pittman race, it definitely helped Harvey Fillingane against Erica McHard in the special election, and we saw it again Tuesday in this race.

[Conveyor Belt]

I voted against King, not for Byrd. Maybe Chad can run and be successful without his father, but that's not what I heard during the campaign. The message was Blah, blah, blah, oh, and Tom King, by the way...

I hate that.

[new2ms]

Well, PI, I really thought that you would be done with all this after the votes were counted, but I guess Tom King and his family really ARE your life's interest. Larry won, fair and square. He didn't pay anyone to go vote for him, he didn't put out any negative ads against any of the candidates. The majority of the people in Petal simply decided they would rather be represented by Byrd, not King. And whatever dirt this is you have on ALL the candidates, well former candidates, since the race is OVER... who cares? Let it die PI, just let it die.

[Bluesman]

Well, PI, I really thought that you would be done with all this after the votes were counted, but I guess Tom King and his family really ARE your life's interest. Larry won, fair and square. He didn't pay anyone to go vote for him, he didn't put out any negative ads against any of the candidates. The majority of the people in Petal simply decided they would rather be represented by Byrd, not King. And whatever dirt this is you have on ALL the candidates, well former candidates, since the race is OVER... who cares? Let it die PI, just let it die.
PI didn't ever say that Larry didn't win fair and square. You are right Larry won so it should be over but for some reason Bluedog and you insist on rubbing salt in open wounds... Byrd will probably be a good legislature, so let's give him a shot and move on... If Chad wants to take the next four years preparing for the next election cycle then so be it... But I haven't seen many posts from you on this forum since the 104 thread was closed due to the mudslinging and now all of a sudden when things get heated up in this thread and Aaron tries to keep it civil you chime in and attack PI. I think everybody needs to move on. I think all can learn a lesson from TDale, at least he is a good sport and has the ability to move on and not dwell on the past so much. He has not had anything negative to say that I can find about his opponent since the race and I don't think he will start now... So with that being said I will now invite everyone to partake in some fun posts and quit being so damn anal about everything...

Life is too short to try to live everyday like you on a damn Jerry Springer episode.

[politically incorrect]

Well, PI, I really thought that you would be done with all this after the votes were counted, but I guess Tom King and his family really ARE your life's interest. Larry won, fair and square. He didn't pay anyone to go vote for him, he didn't put out any negative ads against any of the candidates. The majority of the people in Petal simply decided they would rather be represented by Byrd, not King. And whatever dirt this is you have on ALL the candidates, well former candidates, since the race is OVER... who cares? Let it die PI, just let it die.

You know, Chad may have lost in the run-off, but at least he MADE THE RUN-OFF. The two trial lawyers certainly did not.;)

[Bluesman]

You know, Chad may have lost in the run-off, but at least he MADE THE RUN-OFF. The two trial lawyers certainly did not.;)
PI, don't be a tird :-D... didn't you read my previous post?

:smack: :eusa_hand :kekeke:

[politically incorrect]

PI, don't be a tird :-D... didn't you read my previous post?

:smack: :eusa_hand :kekeke:

I thought I was being nice. I could have said A LOT more.:evil:

P.S. Work on your spelling.:smt118

[petalpanther]

Mr. Incorrect,
Your name is at least half right. You are incorrect about most things and obnoxious about the rest.
Why do you say that Chad had three opponents in the run-off? The only ballot I saw had just Larry Byrd and Chad King on it. If you are able to openly support Chad, why shouldn’t the former candidates be allowed to support their choice? If they were interested enough to run for office, it seems natural to me that they would remain interested enough to be part of the process. I know that in Jones County, all of the fallen candidates for Sheriff called a press conference to support Mr. Hodge. I don’t think anyone did that in this race, but why should they not be allowed to?
You claim that they were helping Larry all the way through election day, so what if they were? Didn’t you help Chad all the way through? Using your illogic, Larry Byrd triumphed over Chad King, Tom King, Hal Marx, Allen Flynt, Phil Bryant, USM’s Police Chief, the MS doctors’ PAC, the Homebuilders’ PAC, MS Roadbuilders, MS Independant Pharmacists, Best Western Northgate Inn, Bayer from Pennsylvania, CheckCash of Brookhaven, MS Realtors, MS Right to Life, the NRA, all of the public utility companies that need help from Tom’s committee in the Senate, and everyone else that either publicly endorsed Chad or contributed to his $35,000 war chest.
You are absolutely correct about one thing. Chad did well. He had a strong showing. The fact that he didn’t win the election is not an indictment of him. I am curious, though, about your current designation of Chad as a "newcomer." How can you be a newcomer AND have 16 years of political experience?
Your whole paragraph about "dirt that could have been thrown about against Byrd and the other two during the race" is ridiculous. The election is over. Put it behind you. Move on.
The people of the district gave Larry Byrd their confidence. Why not wait until after he is sworn in before you kick off his next campaign. If he decides to run for Supervisor or Senator, it is his choice. As for this election, the people have made their decision. Your bitterness will not change anything but people’s opinion of you.

[politically incorrect]

My reference to the dirt was no more ridiculous than Mr. Lott's assertion on this board after his fourth-place showing that all kinds of people had approached him with "stories about Chad", or something of the sort. I don't remember any of you aliases coming on here and saying anything about that. I'm not going to say anymore about the race, because it is over. As I stated, congratulations to Mr. Byrd.

:pantsdown::kissmy::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[politically incorrect]

I received several anonymous emails with derogatory information and pictures and quite a few phone calls from people that wanted to do nothing but spill dirt on Chad (No doubt a result of the "spirited" debate on this forum".). I responded to each email and phone call. I told each person that I was not interested in spreading rumor or debasing Chad or his family.



This is what I was referring to. Notice the not-so-subtle hint that there was something "really bad" going on. I guess that was not "ridiculous".

Anyway, I'm done.:-D

[new2ms]

Bluesman, earlier you stated that
"PI didn't ever say that Larry didn't win fair and square. You are right Larry won so it should be over but for some reason Bluedog and you insist on rubbing salt in open wounds..."
I had not seen this thread from the beggining and did not read any of the post that aparently got removed. I didn't know anyone said anything about Chad. The only post I saw was PI coming on here and posting some comment about how we don't know the king's and he's got dirt on everyone so they better keep their mouths shut. It was very strange to me since I didn't see the other posts. I'm sure many others who don't check this site regularly have a hard time following the discussion when things get edited out. Well, now I see that there have been posts removed, which must have brought about PI's comment. I apologize for not knowing all the facts. But then you say,
"But I haven't seen many posts from you on this forum since the 104 thread was closed due to the mudslinging and now all of a sudden when things get heated up in this thread and Aaron tries to keep it civil you chime in and attack PI."
And you're right. I posted on the 104 race because I was interested and it was fun going back and forth with all of you but then the post was closed... a lot of the other stuff discussed on these threads don't interest me and I don't usually read through all of them much less comment. But anyhow, when I came on here and saw PI's post about Chad I simply replied. I wasn't attacking PI. Just calling for him to let it go, just like many of you often do when T. Dale Beavers drives some topic or another into the ground.
And I am also curious as to why PI waited for three weeks to respond to Mr. Lott's post? That just seems like an awful long time.
And PI, PLEASE... quit teasing us, when you say you're not going to say anything else about the race, just don't.

[politically incorrect]

So, when you come on here and take another swipe at me I am supposed to just sit back and let you get your licks in? I don't think so. When I say I am done, I mean I am done bringing it up unless another one of you comes in here to stir the pot again.

The only thing I will say is to respond to your comment about why I waited to put Lott's post on here. I was trying to ignore it, plain and simple. I thought once the race was over it would be over, so what's the big deal? But, after a comment was made on this thread about Chad, I thought it necessary to let everyone know that Chad had the chance to get dirty, too, but chose to stay above that kind of campaign. That's it, that's all. But then, someone comes on and says that I was being ridiculous for suggesting there was dirt to be slung against the other candidates. I posted Lott's comments only to prove that I was not the first to suggest this idea, I was just responding in kind.

Now, unless you or your buddies want to keep this going by coming on and slapping at me or Chad again, then this WILL be my last comment.

[Bluesman]

Bluesman, earlier you stated that
I had not seen this thread from the beggining and did not read any of the post that aparently got removed. I didn't know anyone said anything about Chad. The only post I saw was PI coming on here and posting some comment about how we don't know the king's and he's got dirt on everyone so they better keep their mouths shut. It was very strange to me since I didn't see the other posts. I'm sure many others who don't check this site regularly have a hard time following the discussion when things get edited out. Well, now I see that there have been posts removed, which must have brought about PI's comment. I apologize for not knowing all the facts. But then you say,
"But I haven't seen many posts from you on this forum since the 104 thread was closed due to the mudslinging and now all of a sudden when things get heated up in this thread and Aaron tries to keep it civil you chime in and attack PI."
And you're right. I posted on the 104 race because I was interested and it was fun going back and forth with all of you but then the post was closed... a lot of the other stuff discussed on these threads don't interest me and I don't usually read through all of them much less comment. But anyhow, when I came on here and saw PI's post about Chad I simply replied. I wasn't attacking PI. Just calling for him to let it go, just like many of you often do when T. Dale Beavers drives some topic or another into the ground.
And I am also curious as to why PI waited for three weeks to respond to Mr. Lott's post? That just seems like an awful long time.
And PI, PLEASE... quit teasing us, when you say you're not going to say anything else about the race, just don't.

Yes, it was fun. It just seemed odd that I had not seen a post from you since that thread got closed and then you popped in on this one. However, there are several other things that get discussed on here and I'm sure something would interest you so feel free to jump in on something... It would speak volumes for your credibility and also give folks a chance to get to know you and therefore they won't take what you say the wrong way as easily... It is easy to misinterpret someone when you aren't familiar with their personalities and tastes... some of us are at times smart a$$es to one another and to the untrained eye it would look like we were being arseholes but, we all know we are just carrying on... Please visit other threads from time to time when you get a chance and talk with us about something other than just politics... It helps to let your hair down once in a while.:smt023

[new2ms]

Thank you bluesman, I certainly will try to let you all know a little bit more about me in some of the other threads. I'm glad we see eye to eye on how fun the carrying on can be...

And PI, Me and "my buddies" are not attacking you. I don't know who these people are, but I guess a common enemy does make the best of friends, so perhaps they are my buddies. Anyway, I think everyone on this thread would appreciate us all dropping the subject of Chad King. So let's just both agree to be done. Thank you for clarifying what you meant when saying you wouldn't post anymore. If letting you have the last word is what you really wanted then by all means, you have it.

[politically incorrect]

New2, I doubt you will come on here and post about other things, since the only reason you registered and began posting was to attack a candidate for public office. And, please, I was born on a Saturday, but it was not yesterday. I know there was a concerted effort between you and several other "new" users to make posts about the 104 race.

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