Are You Ready For Some Oak Grove - Petal Football?

[Kitty]

The gridiron rivalry resumes this Friday at Oak Grove.

Predictions?

[Conveyor Belt]

Petal's Band kicks OG's arse!!!

[dollfus46]

Petal's Band kicks OG's arse!!!

Oh good. Which one has the baddest marble shooters?

[Honey]

My family is still talking about the forth quarter of last friday's game. Since hubby went to petal I'm pulling for the big OG-my high school.

[HorseWhisperer]

If petal plays og does that mean that my school (LCHS) will play og? we played petal.

[TDaleBeavers]

Petal I'm afraid looks like this year's South Jones on Oak Grove's schedule. I say Oak Grove will win by at least 4 TDs.

[Kitty]

Remember Appalachian State, hubba? That game set a good example for HS teams. Remember Rudy? Gooooo Panthers! :smt118

Appalachian State proved there are no givens (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/sports/ncaafootball/02upset.html?em&ex=1188878400&en=3a41e990b35264d6&ei=5087%0A).

However, I do like the Warriors chances Friday night. :smt023

[Kitty]

Kitty, dat's 'cause you're an Oakie Groovey. Admit it. De hak's kids started at the Grove but I'z most always an underdog rooter.

True. I'm an Oakie Groovey. :-D

And Hawk, you know there were years--many years--in which Oak Grove was almost always the underdog. The homecoming opponent for many schools.

I don't know if the new crop of Grovers remembers those years.

[EricStratton]

True. I'm an Oakie Groovey. :-D

And Hawk, you know there were years--many years--in which Oak Grove was almost always the underdog. The homecoming opponent for many schools.

I don't know if the new crop of Grovers remembers those years.

I remember.....I was there.....I also remember being the underdog to Petal in 1994 and whoopin' their ass!!!! I could really care less now, but it's always fun to bring that up....I played with several Petal guys at PRCC, and always brought that up, as much as possible.....That used to be a hate-filled rivalry in all sports....Seems to have lost some of its luster in recent years, since OG has just taken off and left Petal in the dust!:smt118 Just kidding....All you Petal folks don't get your one pair of panties in a wad!

[carsalesguy]

i remember when hattiesburg kicked oak groves a$$ in soccer- literally

[EricStratton]

i remember when hattiesburg kicked oak groves a$$ in soccer- literally

What is this "soccer" of which you speak? Is it a sport? I thought only Mexicans and terrorists played soccer....oh wait....you are a Mexican aren't you? Lo siento.

[carsalesguy]

What is this "soccer" of which you speak? Is it a sport? I thought only Mexicans and terrorists played soccer....oh wait....you are a Mexican aren't you? Lo siento.

ahhhh- smartass here- you see the americans had to come up with american football because people from oak grove/lumberton couldn't get the concept of kicking a round ball and scoring into a net

[Kitty]

i remember when hattiesburg kicked oak groves a$$ in soccer- literally

What is this "soccer" of which you speak? Is it a sport? I thought only Mexicans and terrorists played soccer....oh wait....you are a Mexican aren't you? Lo siento.

We're talking football here, not futbol. :kekeke:

[RGDoherty]

O.K.........Kitty first of all it's the Warriors not the Grovers no matter how many times Kelly Sanner says it! My senior year at Oak Grove was a wash, 5/5 and Coach Cain, was our Coach if that dates me fine......OGHS Class of 84 loud and proud.

[carsalesguy]

O.K.........Kitty first of all it's the Warriors not the Grovers no matter how many times Kelly Sanner says it! My senior year at Oak Grove was a wash, 5/5 and Coach Cain, was our Coach if that dates me fine......OGHS Class of 84 loud and proud.

i was 3 :-D

[TheCapitalist]

It will be funny as hell when Petal beats the hell out of OG. This thread will be aflame for weeks. :kekeke:

Gotta happen first! One of the best games i saw last year was the 8th grade Petal/OG game! I'm sure it will be an exciting heated rival! Gotta love it. I'll be there!

[JimmyJam]

I remember.....I was there.....I also remember being the underdog to Petal in 1994 and whoopin' their ass!!!! I could really care less now, but it's always fun to bring that up....I played with several Petal guys at PRCC, and always brought that up, as much as possible.....That used to be a hate-filled rivalry in all sports....Seems to have lost some of its luster in recent years, since OG has just taken off and left Petal in the dust!:smt118 Just kidding....All you Petal folks don't get your one pair of panties in a wad!

I have a thong....and it does wad up quite a bit. :laugh: Causes one heck of an "Indian Rope Burn".....:smt118

[Augustus McRae]

i remember when hattiesburg kicked oak groves a$$ in soccer- literally


I'm sorry, but no body kicks anyone's ass in soccer....

[Bella]

This game is sure to be fun. We have some Petal relatives who still claim that OG "stole" Coach Barr from Petal. LOL They say it like we actually kidnapped him! It's always fun to play Petal. Does anyone know why we didn't play them the last couple of years? They disappeared off our schedule and I don't remember why.

Having gone to OG and always having a terrible team (I was also there during the Cain years) it's so much fun to go now and see the support for our program.

We love Friday night football.

[Kitty]

Does anyone know why we didn't play them the last couple of years? They disappeared off our schedule and I don't remember why.

Petal's enrollment dropped them to the 4A classification level for a couple of years.

They are back in 5A, but they are in the coastal region, so the game with Oak Grove is a non-division contest.

[SoMissTV]

I'm sorry, but no body kicks anyone's ass in soccer....

You weren't there for that game. The NET team had to break up the melee, and the MHSAA put both teams on suspension.

[Augustus McRae]

You weren't there for that game. The NET team had to break up the melee, and the MHSAA put both teams on suspension.

I stand by my statement as a general matter of fact regarding soccer......

[Natural Sunshine]

I'm just ready for football period....doesn't matter who's playing, but the Petal/OG game will be fun just because they are both local teams and people know each other so it's a fun rivalry. Football season means deer season is getting close so I'M READY FOR FOOTBALL!!!!

[politically incorrect]

Petal's enrollment dropped them to the 4A classification level for a couple of years.



The classification thing was an excuse. The real reason they didn't play had to do with the way some coaching changes were handled at Petal. Barr didn't appreciate the way some of his friends and former assistants were let go and decided not to play Petal. I guess time heals old wounds. I am just glad they are playing again, it is silly for two schools so close in size and geography, that have a long-standing tradition, not to play each other.

[TDaleBeavers]

Oak Grove has played several 4A schools in recent years (Northeast Jones, South Jones immediately come to mind) and even a couple of 3A schools in the Barr era (Purvis and Columbia), thus there was more to it than Petal dropping to 4A. I'm glad to see them playing again this year, although on paper the game appears to be an uneven match.

[kevin]

That's why the game isn't played on paper ! Either way it goes it should be one heck of a game.

[cubby 1]

The classification thing was an excuse. The real reason they didn't play had to do with the way some coaching changes were handled at Petal. Barr didn't appreciate the way some of his friends and former assistants were let go and decided not to play Petal. I guess time heals old wounds. I am just glad they are playing again, it is silly for two schools so close in size and geography, that have a long-standing tradition, not to play each other.


If you are referring to the one that took Barr's place as head coach.... he didn't have what it took to be head coach, as made evident by the 0-12 record my senior year. He is a nice guy.... I like him as a person.... but he needed to be let go. He was NOT head coach material.

[bpitt]

When I was at Petal, I thought we beat Brooklyn, in the rain? My memory is fogged by the Oak Grove crap.

[MMA]

When I was at Lumberton, old Desoto conference, we beat Brooklyn all 4 years I played, Petal, 3 wins and a tie. Long time ago, anyone remember those days??

[Augustus McRae]

When I was at Lumberton, old Desoto conference, we beat Brooklyn all 4 years I played, Petal, 3 wins and a tie. Long time ago, anyone remember those days??


Remember those "days" well. Don't remember the exact Lumberton teams. I coached in both the Desoto and Apache Conferences. Played in the South Big 8 Conference.

[Imapepper]

When I was at Lumberton, old Desoto conference, we beat Brooklyn all 4 years I played, Petal, 3 wins and a tie. Long time ago, anyone remember those days??

I remember. Jimmy Havard was the coach at Petal. I still call him coach Havard when I see him!:kekeke:

[EddieD]

I believe Havard, also played in the Desoto conference when he was a running back at then Lucedale High.

[politically incorrect]

Anyone ever play for Roger Phillips at FCAHS? He is my uncle. I remember he always had a tough game against Petal. Not sure he ever beat them. This was back in the 1970s. He had some good teams before he left coaching for the insurance biz.

[Kitty]

Should we expect standing room only attendance Friday night?

That always makes for an exciting atmosphere.

[Bella]

How many does the stadium hold? Is it 4000 on one side and 2000 on the other? I can't remember the numbers, but I'm sure it will be full. I remember the HHS game last time, people were standing everywhere.

I love to see the big crowd.

[kevin]

Anyone remember A Coach at Oak Grove Tom Moore in the 70's and early eighties.Played for USM Too??

[Honey]

Anyone remember A Coach at Oak Grove Tom Moore in the 70's and early eighties.Played for USM Too??

Well, finally I get to say, "I don't remember that." All this talk about old stuff and the fact that I remember some of them made me feel...well.....OLD.

[Remington]

How many does the stadium hold? Is it 4000 on one side and 2000 on the other? I can't remember the numbers, but I'm sure it will be full. I remember the HHS game last time, people were standing everywhere.


If I remember correctly, it's 5000 on the home side and 1500 on the visitors side.

[RGDoherty]

I remember, Gordy, Pouncy, Cain in the early to late 70s to the mid eighties.

[TDaleBeavers]

If I remember correctly, it's 5000 on the home side and 1500 on the visitors side.

That sounds right...during the Clinton game I was trying to guess the proportion between the home and visiting stands, and I was thinking at least 3/1.

[RGDoherty]

How come the V-Bookie doesn't have the local High School games????

[Fish-Bait]

How come the V-Bookie doesn't have the local High School games????

It's in Pick em'. Right next to vbookie in the toolbar up top of the page.

[noway]

How come the V-Bookie doesn't have the local High School games????

No bookies on HS football we are trying not to teach the young generation about gambling..

The myhburg bookie has Oak Grove favored by 28 1/2 points on side bets..lol

[RGDoherty]

I just had lunch at Catch 22 and they said they are open after the game for any debriefs required!

[Tommy9854]

OG quit playing Petal in football b/c "Barr didn't like the way one of the coaches was treated"....He felt so sorry for him that he let him become an assistant at OG.

Also, Barr didn't want to play Petal in football AFTER Petal named the new coach (then Bubba Davis, who is one of the best in the state). Barr also knew what kind of talent Petal had on the team, and thus, you have your reasoning for not wanting to play Petal, but instead playing South Jones.

I didn't find it too much of a coincidence that OG was "willing" to play Petal once all the talent left.

[Augustus McRae]

Anyone remember A Coach at Oak Grove Tom Moore in the 70's and early eighties.Played for USM Too??


I remember Tom Moore. Fun and crazy guy from Gulfport, who played at USM then coached at OG. Last time I saw Tom he was working for Big Ten Tires on the Coast. A good guy, tough-ass football player, grew up without a pot to tinkle in - good guy, thanks for the memory!

[Augustus McRae]

OG quit playing Petal in football b/c "Barr didn't like the way one of the coaches was treated"....He felt so sorry for him that he let him become an assistant at OG.

Also, Barr didn't want to play Petal in football AFTER Petal named the new coach (then Bubba Davis, who is one of the best in the state). Barr also knew what kind of talent Petal had on the team, and thus, you have your reasoning for not wanting to play Petal, but instead playing South Jones.

I didn't find it too much of a coincidence that OG was "willing" to play Petal once all the talent left.


bull

[Augustus McRae]

I just had lunch at Catch 22 and they said they are open after the game for any debriefs required!


You mean we go to Catch 22 after the game and take off our briefs?

[Honey]

I'm ready for some football. As always I like the competition but mostly I pray for the kids safety, winning is just extra.

[CircusRide]

No it's not.....winning is everything! If you don't play to win, don't play at all!!!!!!

[Augustus McRae]

No it's not.....winning is everything! If you don't play to win, don't play at all!!!!!!


One man's opinion: You prepare and compete for the exhiliration of winning - that's your goal - to get better and good enough to win. That's the purpose.

With that said, I can also tell you after a lifetime of preparing and competing, I've loved and relished the wins, but I've learned more that made me better from the times I competed but got my ass kicked.

True fact: It's more fun to win!

[Honey]

No it's not.....winning is everything! If you don't play to win, don't play at all!!!!!!


CR,
Remember I am in the stands, not running with the football. So from the stands I enjoy when my team wins but I also am so thankful when an injured player is able to get up and walk off the field and to the side line when they are hurt.

[Honey]

Perhaps it could be that I am older and not once in my daily activitives now does it make a difference how many times my high school team won. And the day went just fine even though my Saints lost last night. Not once did it make a difference when I washed clothes or took the trash outside.

[wilebill]

Not once did it make a difference when I washed clothes or took the trash outside.
It did to me. My neighbors intercepted the trash can 3 times before I got it to the curb.

[Honey]

It did to me. My neighbors intercepted the trash can 3 times before I got it to the curb.


I really do like your post.

[Kitty]

Lightning delay at Oak Grove...

Game has been put on hold for at least the next 30 minutes...

The OG gym has been opened for fans to get out of the weather...

Oak Grove leads Petal 12-0.

[Remington]

Game will be started Saturday night and the game will continue from where it was delayed. I think somewhere in the 2nd quarter, but OG was leading 12-0. 97.3 will not be carrying the OG broadcast and will be carrying the Ole Miss broadcast.....at least that was what I was told.

[pinkytuscadero]

Game will be started Saturday night and the game will continue from where it was delayed. I think somewhere in the 2nd quarter, but OG was leading 12-0. 97.3 will not be carrying the OG broadcast and will be carrying the Ole Miss broadcast.....at least that was what I was told.

I wonder if my kids will have to pay again.

Pinky

[Honey]

The lightning was bad.

[pinkytuscadero]

It was scary bad.

Hopefully it won't rain for the Lamar County Youth Football Jamboree tomorrow.

Pinky

[TheCapitalist]

Admission will be free.

[Imapepper]

I wonder if my kids will have to pay again.

Pinky

Those who were there and had already paid will not have to pay again. Those who did not go and want to go Saturday night will get in free.

[petalmom]

I wouldn't say that Petal was getting whooped :) OG had to fight long and hard to get those first 6 points and a Petal fumble inside the 10 (or there about) lead to their second 6.

Petal might not be able to come back but in my humble opinion, they didn't really look that bad :)

[Kitty]

Yes, the Petal fans were strong in number, and loud in voice.

Their band sounded great, too.

And yes, due to Ole Miss and SEC contractual obligations, 97.3 will not be able to broadcast the continuation of this game.

Since admission will be free and it's a rare Saturday night contest, this game is an ideal opportunity for area football fans, regardless of school affiliation, to come out and enjoy good football, tremendous fan support for both teams, and what is sure to be a terrific halftime show by two outstanding high school bands. :smt023

[petalmom]

Yes, the Petal fans were strong in number, and loud in voice.

Their band sounded great, too.

And yes, due to Ole Miss and SEC contractual obligations, 97.3 will not be able to broadcast the continuation of this game.

Since admission will be free and it's a rare Saturday night contest, this game is an ideal opportunity for area football fans, regardless of school affiliation, to come out and enjoy good football, tremendous fan support for both teams, and what is sure to be a terrific halftime show by two outstanding high school bands. :smt023

Sadly, I've heard that our band will not be able to attend :(

[Kitty]

Sadly, I've heard that our band will not be able to attend :(

I hate to hear that. I was looking forward to seeing their halftime show. :(

It didn't occur to me that the band(s) might not be there...that makes me wonder if the OG band will be there. :confused:

I know the game will resume with Petal in possession and a couple of minutes remaining before halftime.

[OGRepub]

to come out and enjoy good football, tremendous fan support for both teams, and what is sure to be a terrific halftime show by two outstanding high school bands. :smt023

The HS bands will not be at the game on Saturday. The directors have a state wide meeting in Jackson that afternoon and they felt they would not be able to get all of the kids to show back up. I understand both principals and directors agreed to this.

I was looking forward to a great halftime as well.

[Honey]

It may be good competition because both teams have had a day to really get pumped up to win. Petal maybe more than the OG because they had to leave the field while losing.

[MMA]

So, instead of the bands being there to motivate the players, they will be absent so the directors can go to a meeting in Jackson?? What a crappy deal. Seems like a severe lack of school pride.

[petalmom]

So, instead of the bands being there to motivate the players, they will be absent so the directors can go to a meeting in Jackson?? What a crappy deal. Seems like a severe lack of school pride.

As a former band parent, it would be nice to think that the players were actually motivated by the band but I seriously doubt that is the case :)

And I can say with 100% confidence that neither school suffers from any shortage of pride.

Will the bands be missed? By some. Will their absence affect the outcome of the game? Not in the least.

[Imapepper]

So, instead of the bands being there to motivate the players, they will be absent so the directors can go to a meeting in Jackson?? What a crappy deal. Seems like a severe lack of school pride.

There were conflicts with some of the kids in the band also. I know my niece, who is in the color guard, had a show choir obligation tonight.

[TDaleBeavers]

Oak Grove wins 19-0. Not an impressive display of offense on Oak Grove's part, however. I'm trying to remember the last time someone held Nevil Barr's offense to less than 20 points. The best I can remember is the South State Championship game in 2004, when Ocean Springs won 33-14.

[kevin]

I think both teams can be proud as Petal is young! Congratulations to The Warriors on their victory and The Panthers on a well fought game!

[SoMissTV]

Sorry, your avatar just made me realize what TD stands for, Tricky Dk :smt001

I thought it stood for "Total nickname-for-Richard"

[TDaleBeavers]

Seriously, Petal played very well on defense..and frankly, dumb mistakes on their part were the difference in the game. All three of Oak Groves touchdowns were set up by personal foul type penalties and/or the fumbled kickoff return, which led to Oak Grove's second touchdown.

Petal has a lot of potential to build on from tonight. However, they need to eliminate mistakes such as these, and be a little less conservative on the offensive end.

[petalmom]

I think that the Petal defense showed allot of potential the last two nights. Unfortunately the offense just could seem to put it together.

I also think that OG showed allot of class by not attempting to run up the score with their last possession.

All in all it was a great "two" nights of high school football!

Good luck to both teams during the rest of the season!

[petalmom]

Seriously, Petal played very well on defense..and frankly, dumb mistakes on their part were the difference in the game. All three of Oak Groves touchdowns were set up by personal foul type penalties and/or the fumbled kickoff return, which led to Oak Grove's second touchdown.

Petal has a lot of potential to build on from tonight. However, they need to eliminate mistakes such as these, and be a little less conservative on the offensive end.

I guess great minds think alike :)

[Tommy9854]

Seriously, Petal played very well on defense..and frankly, dumb mistakes on their part were the difference in the game. All three of Oak Groves touchdowns were set up by personal foul type penalties and/or the fumbled kickoff return, which led to Oak Grove's second touchdown.

Petal has a lot of potential to build on from tonight. However, they need to eliminate mistakes such as these, and be a little less conservative on the offensive end.

Play calling was horrendous for Petal. At the end of the first half they are going to run the ball with no timeouts? Stupid. They ran the same play for about 7 straight plays.

Also, only down by 2 TD's in the 4th quarter and still running the same plays the whole time? Finally get a good pass play to work and then go back to the run that OG shut down the entire 2nd half? Also, Petal hurt themselves. You are behind by 12 points, and running on every play ON TOP OF not even snapping the ball until about 4 seconds left on the play clock every single time? Petal had plenty of chances to win.

I will give the kids credit, they played emotional, and that's why they played decent on defense. We'll wait and see if that carries over or was just because it was OG.

OG didn't play very well at all either.

[TDaleBeavers]

Oak Grove has quite a ways to go if another trip to the South State finals, let alone State Championship is awaiting. From what I have seen, Oak Grove doesn't have a breakaway speedster in either the backfield or at WR, which they have had in recent years, such as Torris Magee or Taiwan Easterling. Drew Norwood has yet to demonstrate either the arm strength or accuracy of a Zack Harrington or Kirk Lance. I don't mean to knock Drew; with time and more experience this could change, and he certainly showed a lot of poise against Clinton last week, and made no major mistakes against Petal, other than being inaccurate on some of his passes, as stated.

On at least 3 occasions, Oak Grove had drives continue because of Petal penalties in third down situations in which Petal had held. Teams like Meridian and George County won't often make these mistakes.

I also agree Petal's offense play calling was horrendous, both at the end of the half and in key third down situations in the second half. Running or third and long and when time is running out defies logic.

[kevin]

Well these kids are 15 to 17 so I really wonder why the emphasis on performance on the field is so important. Let's just Represent!!!

[Tommy9854]

Well these kids are 15 to 17 so I really wonder why the emphasis on performance on the field is of so Important. Let's just Represent!!!

Wasn't really bashing the kids.

Petal was running an offense that looked like something that would be run in 6-7th grade.

[politically incorrect]

Wasn't really bashing the kids.

Petal was running an offense that looked like something that would be run in 6-7th grade.

That's because they are starting 15 of 22 players who until last week had never played a down of high school football. The reason they have to run the same kind of plays is because they don't have the talent to make other plays work. The coaches are doing the best they can under the situation. It is easy to sit in the stands and second-guess. Give these boys this year to mature and learn and next year they will be much improved.

[MMA]

Petalmom, the band doesn't make a difference?? Have you ever ran back to line up for a kickoff after scoring a touchdown and extra point while the band plays your fight song?? Did it a lot of times, some at Petal, 1961-63, got "goosebumps" every time. It is a matter of pride. Good thing your players didn't have anything else to do on Saturday.

[petalmom]

Petalmom, the band doesn't make a difference?? Have you ever ran back to line up for a kickoff after scoring a touchdown and extra point while the band plays your fight song?? Did it a lot of times, some at Petal, 1961-63, got "goosebumps" every time. It is a matter of pride. Good thing your players didn't have anything else to do on Saturday.

I don't believe that I said that the band doesn't make a difference, did I?? What I THINK I said was that their absence would not affect the outcome of the game.

And no, I have never ran back to the line after scoring a touchdown :) but I too get goosebumps everytime I hear our fight song (heck I even had it set as my daughters ringtone for awhile!!)

Both bands were missed last night however, unfortunately, there were scheduling conflicts that were unavoidable once the game had to be continued on Saturday. I think that most people can understand that and that it had nothing to do with lack of pride. I actually saw plently of Petal Band students and their parents at the game even though they were not participating and I'm sure that it was the same for OG.

[MMA]

As a former band parent, it would be nice to think that the players were actually motivated by the band but I seriously doubt that is the case :)

And I can say with 100% confidence that neither school suffers from any shortage of pride.

Will the bands be missed? By some. Will their absence affect the outcome of the game? Not in the least. 1st.sentence.

[Tommy9854]

That's because they are starting 15 of 22 players who until last week had never played a down of high school football. The reason they have to run the same kind of plays is because they don't have the talent to make other plays work. The coaches are doing the best they can under the situation. It is easy to sit in the stands and second-guess. Give these boys this year to mature and learn and next year they will be much improved.

Certainly can't get much worse.

[Kitty]

Oak Grove has quite a ways to go if another trip to the South State finals, let alone State Championship is awaiting. From what I have seen, Oak Grove doesn't have a breakaway speedster in either the backfield or at WR, which they have had in recent years, such as Torris Magee or Taiwan Easterling. Drew Norwood has yet to demonstrate either the arm strength or accuracy of a Zack Harrington or Kirk Lance.

Another point worth mentioning is the youth and inexperience in the Oak Grove kicking game.

A new kicker and a new deep snapper.

[Tommy9854]

Another point worth mentioning is the youth and inexperience in the Oak Grove kicking game.

A new kicker and a new deep snapper.

If that is a young kicker, then he is going to be GOOD.....He has a leg on him.

[proudtobefrompetal]

I thought OG was supposed to play Lawrence County last night? What happened?:confused:

[Augustus McRae]

I thought OG was supposed to play Lawrence County last night? What happened?:confused:


Open week..no game this week