Scott Farris Not Guilty!!

[noway]

I received an email from scott farris and wanted to let any of the old timers of myhattiesburg know the outcome of his case.


"I wanted to tell you (and whom all else that it may concern) that I finally received written City Court records last Saturday that all charges [disorderly conduct] against me by the Hattiesburg Police Department have been dropped/dismissed and I am officially "NOT GUILTY"...This is a classic case of "better late than never" and "all's well that ends well"...It took long enough: 11 July 2005 to 5 Sept 2007--2 years, 2 months!..."


He was an ex city council member from Hattiesburg that was arrested by HPD for disorderly conduct.

I looked over some of the old threads and LOL!!! some funny stuiff in the archives..

[RGDoherty]

Scotty was just exercising his right to free speech, at the wrong time!!! He might have been wanting to smoke come to think of it.....

[jmb]

Noway, thanks for passing that info on.

WTG, Scott!!! :clap:

[TDaleBeavers]

I'm very happy for Scott, whom I've gotten to meet in person at various political events. In spite of our squabbles on here over the Hattiesburg annexations v. Oak Grove incorporation issues, he's a good guy, and I am glad to see that this has been resolved in his favor.

[cubby 1]

well good for scott.... hope he stays out of trouble.

[wilebill]

I'm glad for Scott. But he's still guilty of using too many parentheses and brackets in his writings.

[Conveyor Belt]

Where's HCM1912 when you need him..

[IGID]

Were the charges dropped or was he found not guilty in a trial? There is a difference.

[Maggie-Doodle]

Charges were dropped...here is the story from todays HA...


http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070917/NEWS01/70917020


It is not exactly the same thing as being found not guilty! Most probably the officers couldn't be located to come to court and they had NO other choice but to drop the charges...IF it were me and I was truely innocent they would have one hell of a civil suit for false arrest.

Also, IF they ever had any evidence of what he did (tapes etc.) I doubt they could find them...probably long gone.

[selmore]

I think he plead guilty to a broken taillight

[dollfus46]

I received an email from scott farris and wanted to let any of the old timers of myhattiesburg know the outcome of his case.


"I wanted to tell you (and whom all else that it may concern) that I finally received written City Court records last Saturday that all charges [disorderly conduct] against me by the Hattiesburg Police Department have been dropped/dismissed and I am officially "NOT GUILTY"...This is a classic case of "better late than never" and "all's well that ends well"...It took long enough: 11 July 2005 to 5 Sept 2007--2 years, 2 months!..."


He was an ex city council member from Hattiesburg that was arrested by HPD for disorderly conduct.

I looked over some of the old threads and LOL!!! some funny stuiff in the archives..

Is he kin to Sam or Ike?

[politically incorrect]

My guess is the officers in question were not available to testify. This is certainly not the same thing as being exonerated by a not-guilty verdict. He gets the charges dropped, but that does not mean the evidence would have been on his side should it have gone to trial. Farris, being a laywer, should know the difference.

[dollfus46]

I'm very happy for Scott, whom I've gotten to meet in person at various political events. In spite of our squabbles on here over the Hattiesburg annexations v. Oak Grove incorporation issues, he's a good guy, and I am glad to see that this has been resolved in his favor.
You look like someone I used to know.:kekeke:

[jmb]

My guess is the officers in question were not available to testify. This is certainly not the same thing as being exonerated by a not-guilty verdict. He gets the charges dropped, but that does not mean the evidence would have been on his side should it have gone to trial. Farris, being a laywer, should know the difference.

It also does not mean the evidence would have been against him.

[dollfus46]

Farris, being a laywer, should know the difference.

Heh heh heh, never mind my previous question. Which one is he kin to?

[RGDoherty]

I saw Scott today at the fire. Same old Scott, it was good to catch up with him. Correct, the officers weren't present to testify. However, it was because they were discharged from the HPD for excessive use of force.

[Bahlk]

I saw Scott today at the fire. Same old Scott, it was good to catch up with him. Correct, the officers weren't present to testify. However, it was because they were discharged from the HPD for excessive use of force.

The were not discharged for excessive use of force. One quit and went to Lamar county, the other quit and went to Lumberton. They quit of their own volition under no investigation.

[Bahlk]

BTW i'm not saying what did or didn't happen on that night, but the reason the two left didn't have anything to do with use of force

[RGDoherty]

My bad then......

[Bahlk]

My bad then......

It's all good.

I'm actually proud for scott although I don't know him personally because this thing has drug out soooo long it was time to put it to rest

[selmore]

i wasnt there but let me venture a guess.

the cops stopped him for a minor infraction...Farris prolly said something like, "don't YOU know who I am!!" further exacerbating the situation and it went down from there.

its a good thing the cops weren't hoped up on Bagels, he would have really been in trouble.


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[RGDoherty]

He assured me, and I believe him that he didn't pull the "Do you know who I am?" move.

[gimmeshelter]

I wanna talk about Farris. First someone said that Scott is a lawyer. He is not. He is an independent businessman. Second someone asked if he were related to Sam and Ike. He is their first cousin. Scott's father died from a brain tumor when he was quite young, and Scott was only an infant. Scott's brother Myke was killed in an auto crash 26 years ago. What Scott has achieved in life, he has mostly done on his own.

When he was on the Counsel he was treated with disrespect by the local media. He did what he thought was right for the entire community.

I have know Scott all of his life. Scott is not the type of person to pick a fight with several law officers. The colour of one's skin has never mattered with Scott. The night Scott was pepper sprayed and cuffed and arrested he was with a black man that has been one of his friends since the man was a child. Scott met this person while he was teaching music at Sacred Heart Church, many years ago.

Sure the vehicle had a busted tail light. Scott didn't get out of the truck until he notice that the police had his friend on the ground. Scott got out to ask what was happening. That set off the young and inexperienced police.

That's when it became apparent that it is against some officers policy for a citizen to ask them a question. Farris was then pepper sprayed and my understanding from previous articles that he was thrown to the ground by the police and cuffed. Later he was taken to jail and locked up until he could post bail.

If this is the kind of society you want in Hattiesburg, then you got it. But if you don't want the police exercising punishment on the street for a busted tail light and an asked question, then urge Farris to pursue his suit against these officers and let the matter come to light.

[SoMissTV]

if you don't want the police exercising punishment on the street for a busted tail light

Oh, I'd love for them to exercise some street justice for a nonfunctional tail light... :)

[pinkytuscadero]

Oh, I'd love for them to exercise some street justice for a nonfunctional tail light... :)

:icon_pimp -

[IGID]

Sure the vehicle had a busted tail light. Scott didn't get out of the truck until he notice that the police had his friend on the ground. Scott got out to ask what was happening. That set off the young and inexperienced police.

That's when it became apparent that it is against some officers policy for a citizen to ask them a question. Farris was then pepper sprayed and my understanding from previous articles that he was thrown to the ground by the police and cuffed.Obviously, you don't know anything about law enforcement. I think Scott's problem was with his timing and then refusing to get back in the vehicle, not with his asking questions. When police Officers are making a arrest, they don't want anybody approaching them or diverting their attention to the task at hand, which is cuffing and securing a suspect. If Scott would have waited until they had the other guy in their car, I'm sure he could have ask as many questions as he wanted.But when they're in the middle of making a arrest and tell someone to get back in their car, that's what you do or you take a chance of getting arrested yourself. It has nothing to do with experience. It has to do with refusing to follow commands.

[CrzyHrseOwnr]

IGID your exactly right and Scott mentioning his social status was wrong as well. I happen to sit in on the council meeting he attended after his arrest and he was still extremely rude and disrespectful and was asked to step down several times. I understand he was upset but he went about it the wrong way with the mayor and the council members that day. Thats when I realized that maybe the officer wasn't as much at fault as he wanted us to believe.

[gimmeshelter]

Buddy, I think I do know a little about law enforcement. I was admitted to the Mississippi Bar in 1978 and handled more than my share of criminal cases. How many cases have you tried, or did you get your degree from reruns of Cops. Sounds like a lot of you did. Now flame all you want.

[TDaleBeavers]

Why are we still arguing this? Given that the incident occurred over two years ago, it is likely that the statute of limitations for any civil action (unless some type of negligence claim) has tolled. If Scott has filed such an action, great! But, I certainly haven't heard of such, and I'm almost certain Scott or the media would have let us know if an action had been filed.

I say that matter is resolved, and let's argue about something else!

[IGID]

Buddy, I think I do know a little about law enforcement. I was admitted to the Mississippi Bar in 1978 and handled more than my share of criminal cases. How many cases have you tried, or did you get your degree from reruns of Cops. Sounds like a lot of you did. Now flame all you want.I kind of figured you were a Farris or one of his friends. I've never tried one case, but I've testified in enough case's that put criminals behind bars that scumbag attorneys tried to keep out of prison with little success.

BTW, since when do attorneys know anything about law enforcement?

[dollfus46]

I've said so before, the justice system in this country is out of whack. The goal is to win, not to determine the truth. The truth is NOT advantageous to the defense attorney or prosecutor, depending on the suspect's innocence or guilt. It's shameful.

[daisy]

Obviously, you don't know anything about law enforcement. I think Scott's problem was with his timing and then refusing to get back in the vehicle, not with his asking questions. When police Officers are making a arrest, they don't want anybody approaching them or diverting their attention to the task at hand, which is cuffing and securing a suspect. If Scott would have waited until they had the other guy in their car, I'm sure he could have ask as many questions as he wanted.But when they're in the middle of making a arrest and tell someone to get back in their car, that's what you do or you take a chance of getting arrested yourself. It has nothing to do with experience. It has to do with refusing to follow commands.


Ok, I am not saying who was right or wrong. I don't even remember all the details.

I just want to be refreshed of why the other guy was being handcuffed and put in the patrol car. What did he do or was suspected of? Was Scott driving. I guess he was-- a busted taillight, huh?

And I do know some law enforcement that go on to be lawyers. I guess then you could know both sides.:confused:

Guess I am getting old and some of this is starting to feel old again. Just can't remember why that other guy was a suspect.

Please help.

[gimmeshelter]

I'm not a Farris. Yes i am a friend. I wrote that in my initial post. The reason it is being discussed again is because it is news. i was apparently wrong when I though news was a fair topic on this board. Not at all sorry if I offended the all knowing folks on here. I'll let the issue drop as it is not of interest.

[Maggie-Doodle]

Buddy, I think I do know a little about law enforcement. I was admitted to the Mississippi Bar in 1978 and handled more than my share of criminal cases. How many cases have you tried, or did you get your degree from reruns of Cops. Sounds like a lot of you did. Now flame all you want.


Being a lawyer and being a law enforcement officer are entirely two different things...it is like compairing apple to grapefruits!

You don't have a clue about the situation UNLESS you have had been a police officer! You need to walk in their shoes...have you ever had a gun pointed in your face at almost point blank range? Well, I have and it is NOT a fun feeling....there is usually not a problem unless you have a hothead passenger/passerby who doesn't listen to the officers commands while the officer is trying to do a take down of a prisioner....IMO, IF you don't listen you get what you take the chance and then get what you deserve!

Oh and by the way, being a newby, you sure come on here and are being rude right off the bat...maybe you need to reconsider your attitude a little before you get knocked out with negative rep. Just a thought for you.

[bpitt]

Magna doodle..........

[bpitt]

I'm sorry, that was off topic........I just had that tune in my head again.....

[Bahlk]

Gimmie...insulting the folks on this board within 3 posts of registering is not the way to go my friend.

[IGID]

To all the attorneys here, not all attorneys are scumbags. There are plenty in this area that are respected and liked by law enforcement because they know the difference between right and wrong and try to get the best deal they can for their guilty clients. But then again, there are plenty that try to get their guilty clients off because the Officer may not have spelled a word correctly in his report. Those are viewed about three notches below used car salesmen. Sorry CSG.

[wilebill]

Sometimes you gotta just let things go. Maybe the cop was wrong, but Scott can't dwell on this situation for the rest of his life. He didn't get any lasting harm from it. Put it behind him, chalk it up to another experience in his life that he can tell stories about, and move on.

[HubCityMan1912]

For those who have forgotten the details of this HPD shame & disgrace (like "Daisy")--and who may still care regarding the sad truth--there are exhaustive/accurate details of the whole outrageous affair contained in posts still on this site from the time of the incident and its immediate aftermath--12 July to October 2005...

IGID and CrazyHorseOwner have got it ALL wrong!

And as for CrazyHorseOwner's perverted/distorted opinion that Farris was "extremely rude and disrespectful" [to the Hattiesburg City Council], you got it ALL WRONG again! On the contrary, it was the City Council (particularly Council President Carter Carroll) who was extremely rude and disrespectful to Farris! (CrazyHorse--is CRAZY alright! He/she ought to be sued for slandering/libeling Farris!)

[Fish-Bait]

For those who have forgotten the details of this HPD shame & disgrace (like "Daisy")--and who may still care regarding the sad truth--there are exhaustive/accurate details of the whole outrageous affair contained in posts still on this site from the time of the incident and its immediate aftermath--12 July to October 2005...

IGID and CrazyHorseOwner have got it ALL wrong!

And as for CrazyHorseOwner's perverted/distorted opinion that Farris was "extremely rude and disrespectful" [to the Hattiesburg City Council], you got it ALL WRONG again! On the contrary, it was the City Council (particularly Council President Carter Carroll) who was extremely rude and disrespectful to Farris! (CrazyHorse--is CRAZY alright! He/she ought to be sued for slandering/libeling Farris!)

And it's apparent that you want this to be racial.:smt009

[cubby 1]

For those who have forgotten the details of this HPD shame & disgrace (like "Daisy")--and who may still care regarding the sad truth--there are exhaustive/accurate details of the whole outrageous affair contained in posts still on this site from the time of the incident and its immediate aftermath--12 July to October 2005...

IGID and CrazyHorseOwner have got it ALL wrong!

And as for CrazyHorseOwner's perverted/distorted opinion that Farris was "extremely rude and disrespectful" [to the Hattiesburg City Council], you got it ALL WRONG again! On the contrary, it was the City Council (particularly Council President Carter Carroll) who was extremely rude and disrespectful to Farris! (CrazyHorse--is CRAZY alright! He/she ought to be sued for slandering/libeling Farris!)

Given the fact that these are all screen names and you cannot prove who these people are, I think it would be tough to sue them. Sounds like someone has a loose cannon.

[RGDoherty]

Easy everybody...........let's just say this and leave it be............None of us were there, it's up to powers other than us to determine what happened, and we leave the good name of Scott Farris, a former City Counsilman in good shape as well as the powers that be over this situation.

[cubby 1]

Easy everybody...........let's just say this and leave it be............None of us were there, it's up to powers other than us to determine what happened, and we leave the good name of Scott Farris, a former City Counsilman in good shape as well as the powers that be over this situation.

Don't get me wrong, I've known Scott Farris for a long time. I just don't think suing everybody is the way to go about keeping Scott's name clean.

[RGDoherty]

I hear ya.............I'm just wanting this thread to pass on as peacefully as an old gentleman in his sleep...........This case is two years old, many of us are far removed from what happened..........Let's let the powers that be handle this and go on about our happy MyHattiesburg lives.

[cubby 1]

i agree

[pimpalert]

Man, I agree we needs to let this go.
The Police doing something underhanded? Really?

[daisy]

The End.:clap::clap::clap::cry::smt023:clap: