(OK, I'm bored) If we had an election for Mayor of OG...

[Mike]

...who would you vote for?

(I'm not a proponent of incorporation, but miss the the political banter/arguments and this is my best effort to get something started again...)

[threekidspa]

Who are the choices?

[Honey]

Well, Mike, as long as you got the stirring stick out, I'd say it would have to be someone homegrown in Oak Grove. Perhaps someone who would be strong enough to stand up to the whinners in the area. And someone who has a vision for Oak Grove. Someone who thinks of others before themselves or their own pocket book. Someone who can put OG on the map. Someone who has a heart for the elderly and someone who will watch out for the children.

[Honey]

Oh wait. OG has a mayor already. His name is Dupree only OG just hasn't realized it yet. Hey don't groan me-I signed the petition.

[pinkytuscadero]

Paul McMurry

[SoMissTV]

It should be TDaleBeavers' close personal friend, Joe Fortenberry.

:)

[Honey]

It should be TDaleBeavers' close personal friend, Joe Fortenberry.

:)

Don't even go there.

[dollfus46]

...who would you vote for?

(I'm not a proponent of incorporation, but miss the the political banter/arguments and this is my best effort to get something started again...)
I know what you mean, Mike. I tried to start some chit by making an outrageous statement about shooting people to stop riots, and got only a nibble. Then another attempt by bashing Nasty Nancy and Hateful Harry and didn't even get a nibble. I don't think anyone is in the mood for a scrap. The board has gotten rather slow and benign......yawn:-D

[dollfus46]

Hardly a legitimate reason to neg rep, don't you think. I think it's childish, Just my opinion. Have you ever been diagnosed with Personality Disorder, SoMissTV? Just curious.

[Pirate_129]

Looks like there was a post deleted that was there earlier. Hmmm.....:smt102

[SoMissTV]

The post I made earlier was deleted. I merely said that dollfus' attempts to stir up crap using asinine (outrageous) arguments merely for the sake of stirring up crap was noticed and passed upon by the general population here. I was neg repped and the post deleted. To be honest, I'm not sure why.

[dollfus46]

The post I made earlier was deleted. I merely said that dollfus' attempts to stir up crap using asinine (outrageous) arguments merely for the sake of stirring up crap was noticed and passed upon by the general population here. I was neg repped and the post deleted. To be honest, I'm not sure why.
I neg repped you because you made insulting and highly inflamatory remarks directed at me, which was probably why it was removed too. Both opinions I made, were my opinions, outrageous though they sounded. Both were true. The second one about Pelosi and Reid and the Dems and Republicans (I included everybody) had merit, I thought.:-D

[dollfus46]

Looks like there was a post deleted that was there earlier. Hmmm.....:smt102

Several were removed. And for the record, I think the right decision was made in this case. My points were poorly made and the reaction was not one I had planned on getting. I need to think before I type instead of just type.:smt023 My apologies for MY poor communication skills here.:smt086

[Mike]

YEE-HAH. Almost got this Model T cranked...let's keep turnin' the handle...


Joe Fortenberry? He volunteered, didn't he? Anyone heard from him lately?

TDBEavers has an active law practice...he doesn't have time...unless we're going to pay our mayor $125k + benefits (or so). Based on the initial tax revenue & expense projections, that might already be included...

Mr. McMurray? I'm good with that.

Mr. Dupree? He's out of town, isn't he? (perennially?)

How about Nancy or Harry? (not Breland) Think of the sacrifice we'd be making for our soldiers and our country if we were to elect them co-mayors of OG...we'd be in the middle of Big Bay without a paddle (or mud boots), but we'd effectively take them out of circulation...although I don't understand why Harry (not Breland) hasn't found other interesting things to do in Las Vegas. All kinds of legal alternatives out there, I have heard...

How about some others we've not mentioned: "Two Bits" Crawford; Sidelinetoolong; Shawn O'Hara (I bet he'd do it); Chuck Bennett; etc...

I'm sure you can think of some others...where's Darth Vadar when you need him?

[RGDoherty]

Me!!!! My promise.......Very Limited Government regulation and less taxes since expendatures will be Vetoed as quick as they come in!

[RGDoherty]

That is a joke of course.

[Mike]

We left one out...LET'S ELECT DOLLFUS46 as our next mayor...DOLLFUS, COME ON DOWN, YOU'RE THE NEXT CONTESTANT ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT...!!!

[RGDoherty]

There ya go, Mayor of Oak Grove City, resident of Greenville South Carolina.......probably would be best for the community, like when government shuts down!

[Bella]

Thomley for Mayor....

[Bella]

Bennett would also be good.

[Bella]

Mr Paul McMurry is so nice and well known he would probably be a great Mayor. Or even Fred.

[RGDoherty]

I liked Bennet for Sup of Education. Voted for him. I liked Thomely enough to put a yard sign up, and vote for him too.

[Mike]

I think that was "Burnett," not "Bennett." Two good guys. Different tho...

[Bella]

I was trying to remember when Chuck ran for that office. Thought I missed something!

[Scarlett O'Hara]

Hey, I'm all for Harry Breland.....never thought of it before but if you can manage a winning baseball team for as long as he has, WHY NOT? That speaks for more experience than some show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RGDoherty]

Thanks y'all.......you're right Ben Burnett not Bennett <slapping forehead>

[dollfus46]

We left one out...LET'S ELECT DOLLFUS46 as our next mayor...DOLLFUS, COME ON DOWN, YOU'RE THE NEXT CONTESTANT ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT...!!!

Now you've got the right idea. I'd cut taxes, eliminate welfare as we know it, and go to faith based charity, build nice parks to accomodate all children from birth to old age, walking paths, biking trails, picnic areas, dog parks, softball fields, well lit and policed constantly. Pave the roads, plant flowering trees all over town, cut bushes that are too close to stree corners, outlaw dark tinted automobile windows, go to a four day work week. Have a turnip green and cornbread festival every year, to raise money for the city and charity. Turn downtown into an oasiss of restaurants, benches, old fashioned gas street lamps, retail stores and a park at one end of town. I'd bring in an A level pro baseball team. How's that for a starter.:smt023

[Hob684]

Now you've got the right idea. I'd cut taxes, eliminate welfare as we know it, and go to faith based charity, build nice parks to accomodate all children from birth to old age, walking paths, biking trails, picnic areas, dog parks, softball fields, well lit and policed constantly. Pave the roads, plant flowering trees all over town, cut bushes that are too close to stree corners, outlaw dark tinted automobile windows, go to a four day work week. Have a turnip green and cornbread festival every year, to raise money for the city and charity. Turn downtown into an oasiss of restaurants, benches, old fashioned gas street lamps, retail stores and a park at one end of town. I'd bring in an A level pro baseball team. How's that for a starter.:smt023

Hell i'd move to Oak Grove just to vote for you if you actually thought you could pull all that off!

[kevin]

Dollfus you have my support!!!Turnip green and Cornbread festival pushed you over the top!

[Honey]

I'd vote for you dollfus.

[Guru]

After that I suppose this discussion is over. At this point y'all just have to figure out how to get him to move back down.

[TheCapitalist]

I guess my post was one of the several deleted. I initially thought i hit the wrong button or something. Dangit boy! I thought Fortenberry was fitting for mayor of mythical OZ/OG. there will never be an og city as long as i live here and have a say. whatever.

[Honey]

Capitalist,
I'm sorry you feel that way about OG city. I agree it will never be a great city because of such opposition to it. I look at Petal and I see growth on its own feet. They are not going to be in the shadow of another city but their own. I know there is some downfall early on in starting a city but I have to believe that it would be worth it in the long run. Look at Petal. Their businesses are growing. They now have the Gandy. They have a great school system. They have something to be proud of and I wanted that for OG. In a few years when a family is getting ready to tranfer to this area the realtor can say we have Petal, H'burg, Sumrall, Purvis, Columbia but what can they say about our area. It will be so divided by stretches of H'burg and will lose that solid community feel. It is too late for us in OG. We had the chance and the people here would rather be absorbed by H'burg than be proud to be OG.

[dollfus46]

SoMissTV,
I was just joking about that. I don't think you will find anything to fuss with me about. So if I somehow hurt you're feelings then please accept my deepest apoligies. You will find that I joke alot and if I ever want to hurt someone's feeling there will be no doubt that it will be noticable. Again, I apoligize if you found my joke harmful to you.

He doesn't need a reason to fuss or taunt. Some people walk around with sand in their jock and a scowl on their face all the time. Mr. Congeniality knows my post was in jest and he's pretending I meant it all. He's more laughable than my post, I think.:kekeke:

[Fish-Bait]

bigjohn has my vote. He would bring alot of folks back to reality. Especially if their socks were mis-matched. That shit would be a freakin' misdemeanor......Yeah, and if you had a barefoot and a sock on the other foot that would be a damn felony. Get your crap together OG. Get your footwear inline 'for BJ gets ahold' of ya'.....

[Hob684]

and NO SOCKS WITH CROCS

[dollfus46]

Summary justice? Predetermination of the outcome of a trial? That's the definition of lynching.

Shame on you. Your comments only reinforce the stereotypical image of the south.

Oh I'm sooooo ashamed.:smt086 I wasn't thinking of lynching blacks. That's your erroneous assumption. I said we'd hang criminals in the market square (like Papa Doc Duvalier of did). You're the one trying to turn this into a racial thing. Race never crossed my mind. Only yours.:smt058

[dollfus46]

That's called, "lynching."

Hardly.

[dollfus46]

Really? Mississippi has a death penalty; I don't see it stopping crime real fast.

That may be because I haven't been elected and taken the oath of office yet. That's the whole point.They aren't carrying out the death penalty in the public square.:-D

[EricStratton]

Augustus McCrae.....he's only pissed off half of the people in OG....let's give him a chance to get the rest of them.....

[CircusRide]

Ms. Leatha

[dollfus46]

Ms. Leatha

something just flew over my head.:smt102

[RGDoherty]

Momma Leatha, of Leatha's Bar B Que Inn is the reference.

[Lamar Elephant]

Jeff Mayo. A businessman with two sucessful businesses. Knows everybody from the Grocery lunch crowd. President of Lake Serene Homeowner's & has done a good job.
Never in politics (a plus). NIce-looking and well-spoken. Heck, Lake Serene Grocery could double as city hall!!

[dollfus46]

Momma Leatha, of Leatha's Bar B Que Inn is the reference.
You guys need to strap on some Eastern Carolina BBQ. I remember when my son was at USM, he'd come home and take back a gallon of vinegar based sauce to Hattiesburg with him. Said when he asked for slaw on his hot dogs down there, people looked at him like he was nuts. I forgot to tell him things were different "down South".:kekeke:

[RGDoherty]

I've had the vinergar based sauce in Cincinatti.....I prefer Momma Leatha's.

[RGDoherty]

That might make him a better choice.

[RGDoherty]

I bet not Bella, seems I remember you using my phone to call your Hubby after a dog bite incident!

[RGDoherty]

Good! That was a little ankle biter too, would hate to see one of the Larger Dogs in the area with that little one's attitude.

[RGDoherty]

I did NOT know that.

[Fish-Bait]

Ban dogs....

[dollfus46]

I've had the vinergar based sauce in Cincinatti.....I prefer Momma Leatha's.
Man, that's like going to a steakhouse and ordering fish, or vice versa. Cincinnati is famous for it's nasty chilli. HA!

[RGDoherty]

And it was nasty! I tried some GoldStar Chilli just to see if Ron White had the right to be pissed at the Chilli boy.

[dollfus46]

First time I have a dog that bites, he gets put down. You couldn't beat Ian and make him bite.

[dollfus46]

And it was nasty! I tried some GoldStar Chilli just to see if Ron White had the right to be pissed at the Chilli boy.

Gimme Texas chili, but keep the ketchup/sugar based bbq sauce.

[SoMissTV]

I onced worked a touring job with a group on the eastern seaboard. We did an overnight in Raleigh, where a group prepared BBQ for us. We were excited until we walked in the room and smelled that nasty smell. We ate just enough to be polite and then got out of there to find some real food. Later on in the tour, we stopped in TN and they were kind enough to bring us real BBQ.

I wouldn't feed that vinegar mess to my dog.

[dollfus46]

And it was nasty!

Well, if you'da called me I'da tole ya it was Filthy McNasty

[RGDoherty]

LOL didn't know you a year ago!

[RGDoherty]

I believe leash law isn't wanted by Cap. I have to admit, I'm a County kinda guy myself. Would rather not deal with leash laws. Civil Suit by the boy that had surgery would have put that dog down years before.

[Bella]

We have several dogs on our street that need to be leashed. Our children aren't allowed outside without us.

The responsibility should be with the owner but sometimes the owners don't want to deal with it. If my dog ever acted like it was going to harm someone it would be gone.

Civil suits take to long and waste time. Leash laws would save you from taking off work to go to Justice Court.

[RGDoherty]

I prefer well behaved canines. Dogs that are not the Alpha at the household, but a member of it. I also would rather see a dog fenced than chained or on a dog run. My bullmastiffs were indoor dogs. Nothing like a 160 lb house dog <lol>. But great temperment, great with kids. They aren't biters they use their mass to knock down people they see threatening their people. But most don't spend 2K for their animals.

[Bella]

Speaking of Civil Suit, one neighbor just went to Justice Court over a crazy dog on our street. Justice Court did nothing, nothing at all. This dog has killed many animals, tried to attack several neighbors and my hubby actually pulled him off of an eight year old who was riding his bike. The judge(who didn't get re-elected) just laughed and made our neighbors feel stupid for taking it to court. They had four witnesses and six letters from the neighbors and the judge wouldn't even listen or look at the letters. Unreal.

Again, I want leash laws. Sorry if that gets me groaned at.

[TDaleBeavers]

Paul McMurry would make a great Mayor...only problem is that he's my neighbor (no I won't be ridiculed again by calling him a friend), and we live outside the proposed boundary by about a mile. I'd also add Ray "Two Bits" Crawford lives in Lumberton, so I'm afraid he's out. By the way, he isn't doing too well, so I'd ask everyone to be praying for him.

Augustus McRae lives outside of the proposed boundary too, but I'd support an annexation of his neighborhood just so he could be elected! And if he's made half of Oak Grove mad, that's certainly better than 71 percent.

Harry Breland is a success story and inspiration to everyone in this community. The thought of a Mayor Breland would bring a big smile to my face.

And my friend, Joe Fortenberry...well, like me, I think he'd just as soon run for the border than for another office.

I scanned over some other good names as well.

[RGDoherty]

Thanks Dale, but I was just kidding........and Jeff prolly wouldn't want the job either.

<LoL>

[Mike]

A longtime contributor - Mr. Sidelinetoolong has expressed interest...in mayor, not dog catcher. He's electable, in my opinion.

Well, I set out to get a discussion going. As I'm posting on the 4th page, I consider this a success...even if a page (or so) deviated into other topics (as we sometimes do).

Bottom line: the politics/speculation/public personality opinion sharing seems to do well here.

Anybody watch or listen to President Aknimijab's (sp - on purpose) yesterday? I listened to the intro/the speech and the q&a in it's entirety. Sent an email to FOX News this morning. I thought the guy displaced a number of perceptions the US media has caused me to have. I am sorry the sound bites incorrectly summarize (or take out of context) the "we have no homosexuals in Iran" comment. The guy was pretty lucid in my opinion. Right on many counts that we - or at least our liberal leaning media - aren't giving him credit for. He was no more avoiding direct answers to questions than Messers Bush, Kerry, Obama, Barbour, et al.

He's definately not mayor material however. If someone wants more of my diatribe, including a word-for-word regurgitaiton of my FOX email, start a thread...

I'm voting for Harry Breland or Sidelinetoolong for mayor, although I hope we never have to...(we missed that opportunity a decade or so ago...)

[Augustus McRae]

Augustus McCrae.....he's only pissed off half of the people in OG....let's give him a chance to get the rest of them.....


I God..I'm glad someone finally mentioned me! But here's an interestin' fact, my good friends: I DO live in what is called "Oak Grove" - been there since 1979. But guess what? The well-meaning, "just looking out for the community," totally unselfish folks who are promoting the "City of Oak Grove" LEFT MY NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF IT!

I figure one of two things: 1) I am in an area that Hattiesburg coveted in one of its annexation efforts and these "good folks" who want a City of Oak Grove have already "traded me away" to Hburg; or 2) My neighborhood is not "high brow" enough and don't have "Creek" or "Brake" in it's title and they did not want me.

Or heck, maybe they just wanted to exclude me. It's true I have messed with a few of them..

[Augustus McRae]

Augustus McCrae.....he's only pissed off half of the people in OG....let's give him a chance to get the rest of them.....


I God..I'm glad someone finally mentioned me! But here's an interestin' fact, my good friends: I DO live in what is called "Oak Grove" - been there since 1979. But guess what? The well-meaning, "just looking out for the community," totally unselfish folks who are promoting the "City of Oak Grove" LEFT MY NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF IT!

I figure one of two things: 1) I am in an area that Hattiesburg coveted in one of its annexation efforts and these "good folks" who want a City of Oak Grove have already "traded me away" to Hburg; or 2) My neighborhood is not "high brow" enough and don't have "Creek" or "Brake" in it's title and they did not want me.

Or heck, maybe they just wanted to exclude me. It's true I have messed with a few of them..

[Honey]

Gus
The way I hear it the 'City" had to have a starting point and the folks tried to go along land boundary lines. Once the city became formed anybody outside the 'lines' could petition to be part of city of they wanted to for any reason. Now I don't know where you live and I wasn't included in any of the planning stage. I just did my research as I do with anything before I make decisions.

[Augustus McRae]

[quote=Honey;346333]Gus
The way I hear it the 'City" had to have a starting point and the folks tried to go along land boundary lines. Once the city became formed anybody outside the 'lines' could petition to be part of city of they wanted to for any reason. Now I don't know where you live and I wasn't included in any of the planning stage. I just did my research as I do with anything before I make decisions.[/quote

Yeah, I've heard that explanation from the "good folks" leading this effort. It would sure as heck seem like INTERSTATE 59 would have made a pretty distinct "...land boundary line..." don't you think?

We had a WONDERFUL opportunity, about 12 or 15 years ago, to incorporate a City, save a big chunk of retail tax base, and have an Oak Grove Separate School System. We let it go by. We MISSED the window of "sensible opportunity" to do so. I've researched it too, and see NO sensible reason to incorporate a City of Oak Grove, except for the economic gain of a few.

[Honey]

Agree to disagree. But I feel soon I will be able to come on here and say, "I told you so." Not meaning you but some of the folks in OG. Soon. That's all I'm going to say. I done my research.

[Augustus McRae]

Agree to disagree. But I feel soon I will be able to come on here and say, "I told you so." Not meaning you but some of the folks in OG. Soon. That's all I'm going to say. I done my research.

If you want the city, Honey, I hope you get your city. But I'll bet you all of my 213,000 hub bucks. I'll bet it all that the last "I told you so" will come from those of us who don't see the need for it...I was there when we did not do it earlier.

[Honey]

Soon, Gus, soon.

[Augustus McRae]

Soon, Gus, soon.


I got you...but there will be a "later" too, you know...

[Honey]

What that mean Gus?

[EricStratton]

I God..I'm glad someone finally mentioned me! But here's an interestin' fact, my good friends: I DO live in what is called "Oak Grove" - been there since 1979. But guess what? The well-meaning, "just looking out for the community," totally unselfish folks who are promoting the "City of Oak Grove" LEFT MY NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF IT!

I figure one of two things: 1) I am in an area that Hattiesburg coveted in one of its annexation efforts and these "good folks" who want a City of Oak Grove have already "traded me away" to Hburg; or 2) My neighborhood is not "high brow" enough and don't have "Creek" or "Brake" in it's title and they did not want me.

Or heck, maybe they just wanted to exclude me. It's true I have messed with a few of them..


You got excluded because you have too many old cars parked in your grass! That is not Oak Grove City material!

[Augustus McRae]

What that mean Gus?


Means the "soon" good news will follow with the actual deal and it's consequences......that comes later.

[Honey]

You got excluded because you have too many old cars parked in your grass! That is not Oak Grove City material!

Wait a little while. I think H'burg has started dealing with the cars in grass issue and by the time they get to Gus they will have all the kinks worked out of it.

[Augustus McRae]

Wait a little while. I think H'burg has started dealing with the cars in grass issue and by the time they get to Gus they will have all the kinks worked out of it.


What's YOUR City's position on cars on grass, Hon...

[Butterball]

We don't allow grass in my city -- smoke it and you don't get to pass 'GO' and you don't get $ 200 woohoo

[Augustus McRae]

We don't allow grass in my city -- smoke it and you don't get to pass 'GO' and you don't get $ 200 woohoo


Obviously YOUR city is not OG....

[Honey]

I done thru all paperwork away. It's too late. Just how much is that car-in-grass ticket anyway? Might want to call Peanut's tow service.

[Bella]

I God..I'm glad someone finally mentioned me! But here's an interestin' fact, my good friends: I DO live in what is called "Oak Grove" - been there since 1979. But guess what? The well-meaning, "just looking out for the community," totally unselfish folks who are promoting the "City of Oak Grove" LEFT MY NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF IT!

I figure one of two things: 1) I am in an area that Hattiesburg coveted in one of its annexation efforts and these "good folks" who want a City of Oak Grove have already "traded me away" to Hburg; or 2) My neighborhood is not "high brow" enough and don't have "Creek" or "Brake" in it's title and they did not want me.

Or heck, maybe they just wanted to exclude me. It's true I have messed with a few of them..



What is your neighborhood? I'm curious. Some neighborhoods were left out because the developers said they didn't want the neighborhoods included and would cause lots of trouble if these areas were included.

Also, the attorney and planner said that we couldn't block the growth of Hattiesburg, that the judge would rule against us just as the judge ruled in earlier annexation cases. I believe this was in the 1980's when it went to court. When OG City is passed then we would have the oportunity to annex your neighborhood (if they wanted to be annexed) to the city of Oak Grove. At that time OG City would have the same rights as Hattiesburg. By the way, the planner doesn't even have her neighborhood included because of her developer and because she knows the judge would rule against it. But she also knows that once OG City is passed that they can be taken in by OG and not Hattiesburg. She and some good, unselfish folks from her neighborhood are helping with the OG City effort. They get the big picture.

These well meaning, just looking out for the community folks are unselfish, thanks for pointing that out. I've educated myself on this issue and been to numerous meeting to know that yes, they are unselfish. Perfect, no, but trying to do the right thing, yes.

[sidelinetolong]

A longtime contributor - Mr. Sidelinetoolong has expressed interest...in mayor, not dog catcher. He's electable, in my opinion.

Well, I set out to get a discussion going. As I'm posting on the 4th page, I consider this a success...even if a page (or so) deviated into other topics (as we sometimes do).

Bottom line: the politics/speculation/public personality opinion sharing seems to do well here.

Anybody watch or listen to President Aknimijab's (sp - on purpose) yesterday? I listened to the intro/the speech and the q&a in it's entirety. Sent an email to FOX News this morning. I thought the guy displaced a number of perceptions the US media has caused me to have. I am sorry the sound bites incorrectly summarize (or take out of context) the "we have no homosexuals in Iran" comment. The guy was pretty lucid in my opinion. Right on many counts that we - or at least our liberal leaning media - aren't giving him credit for. He was no more avoiding direct answers to questions than Messers Bush, Kerry, Obama, Barbour, et al.

He's definately not mayor material however. If someone wants more of my diatribe, including a word-for-word regurgitaiton of my FOX email, start a thread...

I'm voting for Harry Breland or Sidelinetoolong for mayor, although I hope we never have to...(we missed that opportunity a decade or so ago...)
MIKE HAS SUFFERED FROM A BRAIN FART, NO HE HAS BRAIN DIARRHEA. NOT INTRESTED,NO WAY, NO HOW, NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN OAK GROVE FOR ME TO DO THAT JOB.:pantsdown:

[Augustus McRae]

What is your neighborhood? I'm curious. Some neighborhoods were left out because the developers said they didn't want the neighborhoods included and would cause lots of trouble if these areas were included.

Also, the attorney and planner said that we couldn't block the growth of Hattiesburg, that the judge would rule against us just as the judge ruled in earlier annexation cases. I believe this was in the 1980's when it went to court. When OG City is passed then we would have the oportunity to annex your neighborhood (if they wanted to be annexed) to the city of Oak Grove. At that time OG City would have the same rights as Hattiesburg. By the way, the planner doesn't even have her neighborhood included because of her developer and because she knows the judge would rule against it. But she also knows that once OG City is passed that they can be taken in by OG and not Hattiesburg. She and some good, unselfish folks from her neighborhood are helping with the OG City effort. They get the big picture.

These well meaning, just looking out for the community folks are unselfish, thanks for pointing that out. I've educated myself on this issue and been to numerous meeting to know that yes, they are unselfish. Perfect, no, but trying to do the right thing, yes.


In Honey's words, "...agree to disagree..." I live in the old Tall Pines/West Lake Manor area. There was no objection from our "developer" to inclusion, I can assure you. When/if the OG City is formed, there will be precious little interest in annexation, I can assure you. The cost will be prohibitive. The only interest the City of OG would have in annexation areas will be when they discover they need MUCH addition income to operate a City whose opportunity for a sales tax base left many years prior.

Guess to use your words, I am not bright enough to "..get the big picture..."

HAD we have the vision to incorporate in the late 80's when the first effort was made, we most assuredly could have staved off much of the annexation that took place and much of the loss of tax base - not all, but a great deal. There was, at that time, a genuine reticence on behalf of many who had moved from Hattiesburg to this area and whose work was still domiciled in the City to "separate" themselves from the City of Hburg. Purely and simply stated, it was not the "socially" and "economically" accepted and prudent thing to do - THEN. It bit us in the butt.

I am sure, as you stated, there are many fine people who do support the City of Oak Grove. Perhaps it will give them a sense of "place" or something they desire or need. I felt that way in the late 80's, and I was told I "...did not see the big picture..." even then.

[RGDoherty]

I was with you in the 80s Gus. Unfortunately now, the area has been chopped to the point of negating the possible tax base. I'm thinking this drive is about 15 to 20 years too late, but still open to hear the big picture. Hoping to meet with some of the proponents when I get home to see if I can be knocked one way or the other off the top of the fence. Until then, I am not committed to say Yea or Nay.

[Augustus McRae]

I was with you in the 80s Gus. Unfortunately now, the area has been chopped to the point of negating the possible tax base. I'm thinking this drive is about 15 to 20 years too late, but still open to hear the big picture. Hoping to meet with some of the proponents when I get home to see if I can be knocked one way or the other off the top of the fence. Until then, I am not committed to say Yea or Nay.


Understand your position and respect it. 'Preciate your respecting mine. There are folks who have a problem with disagrement, it seems.

Be safe, old friend..

[Bella]

I think you are very bright, I'm sorry you thought I said you weren't. Actually the first effort to incorporate was in the late 70's according to one elderly man who is still today trying to get OG a city! I've enjoyed listening to this person because he has helped with every incorporation effort and he has some wonderful and also some sad stories. The first effort was made when Hattiesburg annexed all the residental area on South 40th. Do you remember that? I don't but I was told that Hattiesburg then stated they wanted no more of Lamar County. Look at them now.

In the late 80's when your area was part of the incorporation area, I understand that the judge said OG was trying to block the growth of Hattiesburg and he denied the city. That is what we are currently trying to avoid.

I wish we had made a city earlier but I was either to young in the 70's, not sure about the 80's and I just don't remember the effort in the 90's. But I'm not crying about that now, I'm just trying to help.

This group isn't saying that it's our way or no way. Heck no...if someone else out there has a plan, I know several who will volunteer their time for another plan. We just want to see OG a city, whether it's your plan or ours.

[Augustus McRae]

I think you are very bright, I'm sorry you thought I said you weren't. Actually the first effort to incorporate was in the late 70's according to one elderly man who is still today trying to get OG a city! I've enjoyed listening to this person because he has helped with every incorporation effort and he has some wonderful and also some sad stories. The first effort was made when Hattiesburg annexed all the residental area on South 40th. Do you remember that? I don't but I was told that Hattiesburg then stated they wanted no more of Lamar County. Look at them now.

In the late 80's when your area was part of the incorporation area, I understand that the judge said OG was trying to block the growth of Hattiesburg and he denied the city. That is what we are currently trying to avoid.

I wish we had made a city earlier but I was either to young in the 70's, not sure about the 80's and I just don't remember the effort in the 90's. But I'm not crying about that now, I'm just trying to help.

This group isn't saying that it's our way or no way. Heck no...if someone else out there has a plan, I know several who will volunteer their time for another plan. We just want to see OG a city, whether it's your plan or ours.


I respect that, little lady, but it leaves the looming question: WHY do you want a City of Oak Grove?

[Augustus McRae]

Honestly, that was not just a "smarty pants" question. WHY do we need and want a City of Oak Grove? And, as you seem to be very knowledgeable about it, Why was the West Lake Manor/Tall Pines area excluded from the proposed City? I'd be interested to know.

Thanks!

[Bella]

History has shown that the closer a big city gets to your area the lower the property values go and the higher the crime rate. I can say that about your area and I don't mean that in an ugly way. They may not annex residental but just annexing around residental can make this happen.

Some of the people of Forrest Hills understand that Hattiesburg is beginning to surround them and they don't want the same thing to happen to there neighborhood. That's why they want to help.

I also want to keep OG school inside the city of OG. I don't think it's good to have OG school system sitting inside of the City of Hattiesburg. Maybe nothing would ever come of it but remember this is the same city that in the 70's said they wanted no more of Lamar County! They just keep coming. I'd rather not take my chances when dealing with the future of our school.

I would also like to see our sheriff and fire depts have additional help. They do an excellent job but we have enough population for them to need extra help. I did listen to the fire person say that. Can't remember his name but he spoke at one meeting.

Just some of my reasons. Thanks for asking.

[Bella]

Honestly, that was not just a "smarty pants" question. WHY do we need and want a City of Oak Grove? And, as you seem to be very knowledgeable about it, Why was the West Lake Manor/Tall Pines area excluded from the proposed City? I'd be interested to know.

Thanks!


Because the planner and the attorney agreed that the judge would most likely say we were trying to block the growth of Hattiesburg, just as the judge said earlier.

[Augustus McRae]

Because the planner and the attorney agreed that the judge would most likely say we were trying to block the growth of Hattiesburg, just has the judge said earlier.

It makes no sense that a judge - in the current climate of things - would say that I-59 is not a legimate boundary line. The City of Hattiesburg already HAS the retail tax base in the entire area. WHY, in heavens name, would the City of Hattiesburg want to annex an area that would require the extension of services without tax income?

[Bella]

I'm telling you what the high paid attorney and planner said. I didn't make it up. The attorney for the group was the attorney FOR the City of Hattiesburg when they beat us before! He is the best in the state on incorporation and annexation issues so I believe him when he says he doesn't think it will fly in court. We already failed once before because our area was too large and we were trying to block the growth of Hattiesburg. I'm going with the man who has dealt with this many times before!

I've also been told that you can't continue to stretch your arms out like Hattiesburg has throughout OG. That you have to eventually take in what's around your long arms!!! I believe that would be you! LOL

I've enjoyed discussing this with you and I really didn't say that you weren't bright.

[dollfus46]

The post I made earlier was deleted. I merely said that dollfus' attempts to stir up crap using asinine (outrageous) arguments merely for the sake of stirring up crap was noticed and passed upon by the general population here. I was neg repped and the post deleted. To be honest, I'm not sure why.

Enornous difference in the definition of asinine and outrageous. Perhaps you shoud stick to words with four letters or less until you have a larger vocabulary. I'm just trying to help you.

[Augustus McRae]

I'm telling you what the high paid attorney and planner said. I didn't make it up. The attorney for the group was the attorney FOR the City of Hattiesburg when they beat us before! He is the best in the state on incorporation and annexation issues so I believe him when he says he doesn't think it will fly in court. We already failed once before because our area was too large and we were trying to block the growth of Hattiesburg. I'm going with the man who has dealt with this many times before!

I've also been told that you can't continue to stretch your arms out like Hattiesburg has throughout OG. That you have to eventually take in what's around your long arms!!! I believe that would be you! LOL

I've enjoyed discussing this with you and I really didn't say that you weren't bright.


Okay, so I've been "dealt" away in order that the City of OG can happen. I'll fall on the sword for a good thing, no problem.

But - you seem to have carefully avoided my other question: WHY does there need to be a City of Oak Grove?

[Bella]

Did you not get my previous post. I listed several reasons.

Also, I would like to keep my money in OG and not send it to Hattiesburg where we in OG never see it again. Hey what about the red light that was to go in front of corner market and OG HIgh School? They take our tax money but they won't put up two badly needed lights.

Also ask Mike Backstom about having to repave the road in front of Central Sunbelt Credit Union (your area). The city gets our tax money from there yet Mike had to pay from his area to repave it. Do you remember how bad the road was? Well Lamar County paid twice for this.

[Bella]

Also, I want my own park and recreational areas. I don't want to drive downtown for this.

[Bella]

Ok, now I'm fired up again about OG City. Thanks for lighting my fire again!

[Augustus McRae]

Also, I want my own park and recreational areas. I don't want to drive downtown for this.


I went back and read your earlier reasons. I appreciate them. But this one hit a "hot spot" with me. I agree with you 100% about the Parks and Recreations areas. This just happens to be a subject I know a good deal about.

You ARE aware that there is a Parks and Recreation Board and authority within Lamar County Government, aren't you? It has NEVER been utilized as it could. There is GREAT potential there to develop Parks and Recreation facilities through a county that is "rich" in open space, active people, and interest. I hope, while this incorporate effort is underway, you will also urge Mike and the other Supervisors, to "ramp up" their Parks and Recreation efforts.

A Parks and Recreation Director should be hired for the County. The facility at Purvis should be placed under the Parks and Recreation authority, public hearings should be held in each community, an advisory board should be formed that included folks already involved in recreational programs in Oak Grove (like the Optimist Club folks), Purvis, Sumrall, Baxterville, Midway/0loh, etc. A "master plan" should be developed. Grants should be applied for, and a MODEL Parks and Recreation program should be developed.

I know of NO place more "ripe" in resources and interest for this than Lamar County!

[Bella]

That's why I voted for Thomley. Yes, I do know that grants are sitting out there to be utilized for this and that we should have about four areas in our area. Randy had already researched this.

Tons of grants is available to new cities. So many wonderful things are ready to be taken IF YOU ARE A CITY.