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Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 08:24 AM
Made a couple of trips over to Alabama last week and noticed a fence going up along side I-59. It's about a 4ft tall wire fence with a single strand of b-wire across the top. It's on both sides of the road. What's this for besides keepin vehicles from goin' in and out of the woods? Or, is that all it's for?

Somebody let me know please, cause it's fixin' to get to about the parkway.

thanky ye'

Fish-Bait:smt023

gonefishin
11-02-2007, 09:03 AM
If I had to guess then I would say it's to keep critters from crossing I-59. Just a guess.

RGDoherty
11-02-2007, 09:04 AM
Had the same fence in the Hattiesburg area but we took em down to run our four wheelers......

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 09:10 AM
Had the same fence in the Hattiesburg area but we took em down to run our four wheelers......

From the looks of it you are gonna get another one if it was on I-59.

don't think it's for critters.....Maybe, but why the big expense. If it is for deers I would think they would put up one like Florida...it's 12 ft. tall..that little fence ain't gonna' keep the critters off the road way...Once they get through it'll be like frogger....No where to go.....:ohnoes:

SoMissTV
11-02-2007, 09:41 AM
All interstates have some type of fencing along the sides. Most of them are grown over, though, so you don't see them.

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 09:47 AM
All interstates have some type of fencing along the sides. Most of them are grown over, though, so you don't see them.

But why? I-59's new fence has some major thinnin' goin' on...Large trees are gettin' wacked. The right of way for it has to be at least 30 ft. wide on the Interstate side, but yet is only prolly 3 ft. from property lines...I am assuming here...hard to judge distance doin' 70.49 mph.

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 10:01 AM
FB is right, a fawn could flat-foot that fence.

Or very easily get hung up in it. That's a problem I have with it. Come next droppin' time they are gonna' get hung up in it. Along with deer season openin' I don't even have to bet on it. There are gonna' be alot of fawns/yearlin's hung up it and either break a neck get attacked or a throat cut. If it had to have a fence why not a 3-strand barb wire.....Not a twisted or welded wire fence.....this is what happens....just click it.

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gonefishin
11-02-2007, 10:08 AM
Yeah, I have seen deer clear a 6ft. fence easily. I just figured that it was built for critters and the morons built it to short.

Bahlk
11-02-2007, 11:12 AM
I heard it was for deer and other woodland creatures...either that or to keep the crack-heads off the interstate.

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
I heard it was for deer and other woodland creatures...either that or to keep the crack-heads off the interstate.

We know about them crack heads don't we...........Oh no! it's a CAR ON THE INTERS........splat....I bet they all get the Deer in the headlight look.

I wish I knew more about the specs on the fence. Hell I might even go up there and take a closer look.

Bahlk
11-02-2007, 11:16 AM
We got a call one day on a 4-wheeler abandoned on the interstate. We sent an officer up there and he said it was contractors hired by MDOT to install the fence.

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 11:22 AM
We got a call one day on a 4-wheeler abandoned on the interstate. We sent an officer up there and he said it was contractors hired by MDOT to install the fence.

Yep, they got a bunch of Mexicans and like One black dude and one white dude puttin' it up.......:smt103

H'burg Lady
11-02-2007, 11:25 AM
Who knows with the geniuses we have spending our tax dollars... we have so much extra money in MS, maybe thats what they thought no one would notice HA! Or maybe that is the geniuses way of keeping the illegals back... Double HA!

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 11:32 AM
Makes about as much sense as the multi $100K tortoise fencing that was installed on the ranges of Camp Shelby a few years ago. Ah doh, tortoises are burrowers. They dug under the wire buried only a scant 4-6 inches below grade. And of course the tortoise fences were 3 foot tall, like a tortoise can jump that damn high. Come to think of it, I don't think they can jump, period.

The deer tore them to shreds within a year. Mo-boondoggle govt contracts. :smt009

I remember when all that tortoise stuff got started out on 98 when it got 4-laned...Tortoise endangered my ass. Where we use to live....Northern part of forrest County a long long long long long time ago..:-D
I was doin' a little pellet rifle huntin' for birds squirrels and the occasional cane cutter...Well, at about 12 years old I had some pretty good legs under me and I got lost..eventually I made it out some 5 or 6 hours later, pops was PISSED!!!! The only other thing I remember about it though was I saw like 20 sets of gopher "mating" along the way...dam things were everywhere. I was like WTH? anyways....wasted money...wasted wasted wasted. Who approves this crap anyways....I remember that girl on tv...they interviewed her (a long time ago)....it went like this..

Newsman: Why the fence?

Girl: Because we are protecting the tortoise.

Newsman: Why are you protecting the tortoise.

Girl: Blah blah blah blah ...sierra club...blah blah....endangered....blah blah blah blah blah blah....only 350 thousand dollars......blah blah blah..matching funds.. blah blah blah...they have shells and burrow into the ground.. blah blah...please don't paint their backs with paint because Chinese paint has lead in it and after 25 years it will absorb in their shell and kill them..blah blah blah......and that is why we are taking away this dudes 60 acres that he has a cattle farm on because of the gopher tortoise.. I am smart aren't I...

Newsman: There you have it, back to you Randy in the studio.

Fish-Bait: That's crazy.....they have lost their mind....I was about 10 years old at the time..

Remington
11-02-2007, 11:41 AM
It's a federal requirement to have a fence along the ROW line of an interstate. In rural areas, and welded wire fence with strands of barbed wire at the top and bottom are required and in urban limits, a chain link fence is required. The fence got damaged so much after Katrina from trees falling over it that a contract was done to replace or repair it.

Where I used to hunt in Hillsdale, we use to run deer with dogs and sometimes the deer would run right along the fence for a long way and head back into the woods. A deer rarely ever crossed the fence.....and I don't know why because they like jumping fences everywhere else. But a fence normally won't do much to stop a deer, but will usually keep armadillos, coons, big turtles, etc. off of the highway. At speeds of 70 mph, some people would wreck just to miss a critter. I remember years back where someone was killed on Hwy 49 because they tried to dodge a turtle and ended up losing control and running off of the road.

The chain link fence in urban areas is supposed to keep pedestrians from crossing the highway. But as usual, someone will cut it which requires a lot of headache for some guys to have to go back and continually fix the fence. The guys having to do the work to fix the fence aren't the ones who decided that a fence should be there....they're just the ones who have to keep going back and fixing it when someone cuts it.

Guru
11-02-2007, 11:49 AM
Pedestrian block.

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 11:49 AM
It's a federal requirement to have a fence along the ROW line of an interstate. In rural areas, and welded wire fence with strands of barbed wire at the top and bottom are required and in urban limits, a chain link fence is required. The fence got damaged so much after Katrina from trees falling over it that a contract was done to replace or repair it.

Where I used to hunt in Hillsdale, we use to run deer with dogs and sometimes the deer would run right along the fence for a long way and head back into the woods. A deer rarely ever crossed the fence.....and I don't know why because they like jumping fences everywhere else. But a fence normally won't do much to stop a deer, but will usually keep armadillos, coons, big turtles, etc. off of the highway. At speeds of 70 mph, some people would wreck just to miss a critter. I remember years back where someone was killed on Hwy 49 because they tried to dodge a turtle and ended up losing control and running off of the road.

The chain link fence in urban areas is supposed to keep pedestrians from crossing the highway. But as usual, someone will cut it which requires a lot of headache for some guys to have to go back and continually fix the fence. The guys having to do the work to fix the fence aren't the ones who decided that a fence should be there....they're just the ones who have to keep going back and fixing it when someone cuts it.

There is that word federal up there...they are protectin' the toroise from us and protectin' us from the tortoise.

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 11:52 AM
This is where I have a problem with state and the feds.....they will put up a fence because a turtle caused a wreck, but you let 10 accidents in 2 months happen at an intersection.......yep...still waitin' for a red light.

gonefishin
11-02-2007, 12:58 PM
I heared dem gopher tortoises were/are a big time delicacy over dere in perry county. I've ait de Alligator Snapper but never the Gopher Tortoise. Snapper is guut stuff, taint nuttin' better, but now it be illegal, too. :kekeke:

What about soft-shell? I had some fried once and it was pretty good.

CircusRide
11-02-2007, 01:33 PM
I thought those fences on I-59 were to keep out the illegals.

Until I saw it wasn't working in Laurel.

FIRECHIEF1
11-02-2007, 05:40 PM
I actually done a research project on the fence along the interstate when I was in High School. I can't remember much about it as this was the original fence before KATRINA but I do remember the object was to keep the deer off the Interstate. The State done a big study on the number of Vehicle VS Deer accidents and decided to put up the fence. The only problem was is they did not have the money to put up a tall enough fence to efficeintly to the job so they just made do with what they could afford. I don't know what they are putting up this time but if it is 4ft a deer will jump straight over that without a problem. And I don't think it will be tall enough to keep the illegals out either

Fish-Bait
11-02-2007, 05:52 PM
I actually done a research project on the fence along the interstate when I was in High School. I can't remember much about it as this was the original fence before KATRINA but I do remember the object was to keep the deer off the Interstate. The State done a big study on the number of Vehicle VS Deer accidents and decided to put up the fence. The only problem was is they did not have the money to put up a tall enough fence to efficeintly to the job so they just made do with what they could afford. I don't know what they are putting up this time but if it is 4ft a deer will jump straight over that without a problem. And I don't think it will be tall enough to keep the illegals out either
I ain't got time to do a study. Lawd knows if I had plenty of time I would be fishin'....But I wish they would do a study on how many deer (fawns) met their death because of it. Because a 4 ft twisted wire fence wont keep an average deer from the interstate, however it will get a fawn killed. I've seen it with my own eyes deer huntin'. A fawn can hit the fence so hard it'll snap it's neck.

I am not a big deer hunter....big fisherman yes...deer hunter not so much...but I am a sportsman and I like to try and find the best mesh for progress and the outdoors and I can tell ya'...by the looks of it Uncle Joe signed the P.O. for nephew Bill. Now nephew Bill drives a Humvee and don't give a Fork.....:smt009

I am gettin' middle aged. but bygod I ain't stupid.

Hermione
11-02-2007, 08:28 PM
This reminds me of the fence that got put up on the Mandalay Dr. side of the Thames walking track. All it's done is allow a strip of weeds and trash between the fence and the street, and hinder people in the neighborhood from walking across to the track. It's too short to deter anybody from getting on the school grounds, and in any case, the south side of the grounds aren't fenced at all, so nothing is actually fenced IN. Just a lot of money for nothing, and so far I've heard at least four different explanations as to what it's there for.

countrygirl
11-02-2007, 08:38 PM
They are not building a fence...they are rebuilding it. They built it once before Katrina and so many trees fell on it they have to redo it. I wondered when they first built it that why close to the city jor within city limits they used more expensive fencing?

rooter
11-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Mainly the fence is to keep large animals like cows and horses off the highway. It will not stop deer or any small animal. I would rather hit a deer or other animal than a cow or horse.

Fish-Bait
11-03-2007, 03:33 AM
Mainly the fence is to keep large animals like cows and horses off the highway. It will not stop deer or any small animal. I would rather hit a deer or other animal than a cow or horse.

No kiddin'...

What's easier to dodge? A cow? A horse? Or A deer? Or a gopher tortoise? Or an antelope? Or a dog? Or a coyote or fox? ....see my point?

My point is that you have the Federal Government protecting the animals from the Interstate AND you have the Federal Government Protecting the Interstate from the animals....geeee whizz....cheese whiz...don't take a scientist...:smt009

MMA
11-03-2007, 08:54 AM
They have to fence the highway right of way on the interstates.

Bluesman
11-03-2007, 09:32 PM
Probably to protect the spotted hunchback hardshell southern territory land tortoise or some other bullsh*t like that.:smt118

Honey
11-03-2007, 09:36 PM
Probably to protect the spotted hunchback hardshell southern territory land tortoise or some other bullsh*t like that.:smt118

No, I think it is for the swans. You know for their annual flights into H'burg.

Bluesman
11-03-2007, 10:58 PM
No, I think it is for the swans. You know for their annual flights into H'burg.
Well, they better hurry it up through here this year cause if they dally around too much in the 'burg some artist will paint graffitti on them and call it art.:-D

Bluesman
11-03-2007, 11:00 PM
No kiddin'...

What's easier to dodge? A cow? A horse? Or A deer? Or a gopher tortoise? Or an antelope? Or a dog? Or a coyote or fox? ....see my point?

My point is that you have the Federal Government protecting the animals from the Interstate AND you have the Federal Government Protecting the Interstate from the animals....geeee whizz....cheese whiz...don't take a scientist...:smt009
I damn sure don't want to hit a friggin hog... Those have been known to cause semi's to flip. Has to do with their short legs and the shape of their bodies. If'n you don't believe me just ask some of those MHP fella's how dangerous it is to hit a hog.

politically incorrect
11-03-2007, 11:46 PM
Back in my previous career I heard about a fatal wreck on I-59 in Laurel and went out to the scene. A delivery truck driver had run off the highway and struck a chain-link fence. The fence had rolled up on the front of the truck and one of the steel posts had crashed through the windshield and impaled the driver through the chest. He was still there when I arrived. That is why I don't like a fence being along the side of the road. And, as for it being a federal requirement, I have seen miles and miles of interstate where there is no fence. Is this really a law? If so, it is not being followed in most places.

Bluesman
11-03-2007, 11:53 PM
Back in my previous career I heard about a fatal wreck on I-59 in Laurel and went out to the scene. A delivery truck driver had run off the highway and struck a chain-link fence. The fence had rolled up on the front of the truck and one of the steel posts had crashed through the windshield and impaled the driver through the chest. He was still there when I arrived. That is why I don't like a fence being along the side of the road. And, as for it being a federal requirement, I have seen miles and miles of interstate where there is no fence. Is this really a law? If so, it is not being followed in most places.
One thing about it though my friend... When it is your time to go it is your time to go... It ain't really gonna matter if there is a fence there or not. Just think of all the accidents that WERE avoided by that fence there. It could have prevented a horse or cow or somebody's kid from wandering out into the intersate.

Guru
11-03-2007, 11:57 PM
Breaking news:
Fence along Interstate 59 in Mississippi erected to keep Hattiesburg residents out of the community of Oak Grove.
More later.

politically incorrect
11-04-2007, 12:29 PM
Breaking news:
Fence along Interstate 59 in Mississippi erected to keep Hattiesburg residents out of the community of Oak Grove.
More later.

Is this outlining the boundaries of Oak Grove City? Will they have a bagel store?:smt118

Guru
11-04-2007, 10:35 PM
I swear there is so much out in Oak Grove now. I went through from the Sumrall direction a couple of weeks ago in the daytime and was in awe of everything that is out there.

Hob684
11-05-2007, 12:38 AM
the fence is to keep the mexicans that made it over the Rio Grande to keep movin...

if we can't keep 'em out then make 'em keep walkin..