New Political Party?

[Augustus McRae]

Okay, it's election day and all. But before the returns come in, I want to throw out an idea - it ain't a new one, I don't have those!

This morning I got a call from a good, solid friend of me. He's got good sense. He loves God, his country, his family, his friends, football, good food, and a good cold beverage. He's 67 years old, been through financial hard times and come back strong, been through divorce then been with the love of his life for many years now, survived cancer and just finished treatments for another bout with it - he's "done some life" so I trust him.

He called and said, "let's talk soon." He says, "...the Republicans don't want us and there is no Democrat party to go to...." He continued, "...there is a drove of people like us.....and we need someone speaking for us, something to belong to and support....and we do NOT need to give up our role in the political process of our county, state, or country...." Finally he says, "Let's have some serious talk about another political party - or a REAL independent movement....find some support and find some candidates before we get in this mess again four years from now..."

I agreed to meet with him next week. I think he's right. I, personally, am a former Democrat but with nothing to back to there if I wanted to, and a retired Republican with nothing among them enticing me to come out of retirement. I have no interest in "one trick pony" parties or single celled organizations that have emerged. The truth is MOST - a very, very large percentage - of American people feel totally politically disenfranchised.

What do you think?

[Conveyor Belt]

That's the blanket of the Independent.

However, there are NUMEROUS political parties out there with little grab...

[Fish-Bait]

My honest opinion Gus. I will just lay it out.

I am so sick and tired of politics that I am to the point of "I don't give a **** any more."

There, you have it. This is honestly the way I feel when I turn on my radio for the drive home. I am on the right side. Some of the crap really is startin' to piss me off. Well it has pissed me off. I like listenin' to talk radio, but here lately, **** it.

Just screw it. Nothin' makes sense anymore. We got a bunch of damn lawyers who don't even know what their own laws say..it's ridiculous. Why do lawyers for the most part in the legislature create laws and then we have to hire a dam lawyer to figure out what it means....seriously.

The whole system is divided to me and therefore it's screwed until someone who has a big enough set of cajuna's will address our legisator's how they need to be addressed..........

"Sit down, shut up and listen. If you don't like what I have to say and feel like bein' a smart ass hit the door and don't come back."

I wish I was the coach of the legislature. I would make em' run wind sprints until they got the picture. That, or be kicked off the "team."

Dam, I am upset now.

[Augustus McRae]

That's the blanket of the Independent.

However, there are NUMEROUS political parties out there with little grab...


Understand the second sentence, as I am aware there are numerous parties out there with very "narrow, single celled" goals and interests. I'm not interested in another "denomination." Explain the "blanket" part to me, please. And remember I am old and of limited intellect!

[Augustus McRae]

My honest opinion Gus. I will just lay it out.

I am so sick and tired of politics that I am to the point of "I don't give a **** any more."

There, you have it. This is honestly the way I feel when I turn on my radio for the drive home. I am on the right side. Some of the crap really is startin' to piss me off. Well it has pissed me off. I like listenin' to talk radio, but here lately, **** it.

Just screw it. Nothin' makes sense anymore. We got a bunch of damn lawyers who don't even know what their own laws say..it's ridiculous. Why do lawyers for the most part in the legislature create laws and then we have to hire a dam lawyer to figure out what it means....seriously.

The whole system is divided to me and therefore it's screwed until someone who has a big enough set of cajuna's will address our legisator's how they need to be addressed..........

"Sit down, shut up and listen. If you don't like what I have to say and feel like bein' a smart ass hit the door and don't come back."

I wish I was the coach of the legislature. I would make em' run wind sprints until they got the picture. That, or be kicked off the "team."

Dam, I am upset now.


I think we all understand, exactly how you feel, bait. But if we "thrown in" and say "screw it" (which I have done many times!), things will just get less sensible and worse. We don't want that for our children and grandchildren - that ain't trite bull, that's the truth!

[Conveyor Belt]

I meant that there are scores of politicians who run as Independents. While it's not an organized party, it is a recognized party, y'know? What you described is Independent. Anything that isn't Repub or Dem or one of these little parties is the party of the Independent.

I think the party you're thinking of should be called the American party. It's the party for Americans, by Americans. I'm an American, and I should be in the American party... right? If you're not for Americans, you're against Americans... oh, I can go all day on this one... but I'm going to stop here.

[Conveyor Belt]

I can't listen to 'The Right Side'... those guys are the guys they talk about on the shows about nutjob repubs. Too pro-Christian and sensitive for my likes. I'm mostly conservative, but when every little thing is turned into being an attempt to discount Christianity or 'Christian values', then I get bored and turn the station.

[Augustus McRae]

I meant that there are scores of politicians who run as Independents. While it's not an organized party, it is a recognized party, y'know? What you described is Independent. Anything that isn't Repub or Dem or one of these little parties is the party of the Independent.

I think the party you're thinking of should be called the American party. It's the party for Americans, by Americans. I'm an American, and I should be in the American party... right? If you're not for Americans, you're against Americans... oh, I can go all day on this one... but I'm going to stop here.


I think you are right on target, CB!

[Augustus McRae]

I can't listen to 'The Right Side'... those guys are the guys they talk about on the shows about nutjob repubs. Too pro-Christian and sensitive for my likes. I'm mostly conservative, but when every little thing is turned into being an attempt to discount Christianity or 'Christian values', then I get bored and turn the station.


I cannot listen to it either, CB! But I would encourage others here to tune in to it. I think it is at 5:30 P.M. on 98.1 radio. When it starts, a very familiar local voice comes on that explains "what a Republican" is. The voice is the station manager who I am sure is paid to do it, but it's dang scary! One of the principals of the program, Chris McDaniel, a Laurel attorney, is running for the State Senate in that area. He seems like a nice, smart young man...but the ""conservative doctrine and dogman" they espouse is as scary to me as a Donald Wildmon diatribe on AFR.

I love my country, and I love my loving God - but I don't like being told how WRONG I am if I don't feel EXACTLY like some group does about either!

[Conveyor Belt]

I just listen to NPR... usually around this time, they're into telling stories instead of slanting news.

[Augustus McRae]

Folks, like Gus and I, could prolly just sit back and watch this sh!t happen....we ain't long here.

But, and that's a damn big BUT, we have kids, and maybe more importantly, grandkids who don't deserve this fked up mess we're letting all these sh!theads get away with. We've trusted, believed, and hoped for so long, yet the corrupt, ignorant BS pile only grows bigger, and while we are no longer suckers of this scam, we might question if it is too late. It will be if we sit on our asses any longer. We cannot give up for posterity sake. Too many gave all for what we had. We can at least stand up and say, "enough!", roll up our sleeves, spit in our palms, clinch our fists for battle, and give them the fight of their political lives.

Yes, we have to get hold of the reins again at all cost, as the alternative is too bleek to imagine for our offspring. It's only too late if we give up. Don't do that...your kids won't respect you for that attitude. You won't respect yourself.

It's time for true patriots to stand together.


Amen and amen and amen...

Augustus McRae
I'll pick up the flag if that man goes down....

[Hob684]

Amen and amen and amen...

Augustus McRae
I'll pick up the flag if that man goes down....






if he goes down?? Hell.. i'll be right behind him holdin 'em up!

[jojobeans1120]

I think a lot of people are so sick of the way things have been going, they've quit voting. I know several of my friends, aged 29-34, that just blow it off. I keep telling them not to b&%*$ about things later if they're not willing to take a stand. I think most people want to be associated with something, party/platform/whatever.
I simply would love to have a candidate that simply uses some common sense with moral values mixed in. Dems are too far left and headed toward socialism, Reps are too far right and overbearing. I would love someone/something/party/candidate that is somewhere along the middle.
I don't want someone that is corrupted by big money, but I also don't want someone that is handing out money/food stamps/welfare to every Tom, Dick, and Jose!

[Augustus McRae]

I think a lot of people are so sick of the way things have been going, they've quit voting. I know several of my friends, aged 29-34, that just blow it off. I keep telling them not to b&%*$ about things later if they're not willing to take a stand. I think most people want to be associated with something, party/platform/whatever.
I simply would love to have a candidate that simply uses some common sense with moral values mixed in. Dems are too far left and headed toward socialism, Reps are too far right and overbearing. I would love someone/something/party/candidate that is somewhere along the middle.
I don't want someone that is corrupted by big money, but I also don't want someone that is handing out money/food stamps/welfare to every Tom, Dick, and Jose!


JoJo, I think you have described very well how about 70% of American voters feel....thus, some credibility I think to this conversation. Thank you!

[TARZAN]

Everyone has a vision until they're up against the wall...and That is when one needs to shine their brightest. At the very moment, when you've amassed a crowd, and the only choice they have is to watch, is when you speak your mind. You let the know not only how you feel, but why you feel that way. You remind them that their constant bashing of your vision (and their complete lack of open-mindedness to you) is what THEIR argument is all about, when you've got their attention, remind them of who they love, and what they want for them. Everybody wants a safer place for their children, an upbringing with morals and values.....and like it or not, no one will EVER be able to come up with an argument that a society based on Christian values lacks any of those.

-Will

[jojobeans1120]

It is time for people to stand up. It is time to quit the b%^$% and whining. Nothing is going to be done as long as we're standing on the sidelines complaining about what should be done.

[Augustus McRae]

Everyone has a vision until they're up against the wall...and That is when one needs to shine their brightest. At the very moment, when you've amassed a crowd, and the only choice they have is to watch, is when you speak your mind. You let the know not only how you feel, but why you feel that way. You remind them that their constant bashing of your vision (and their complete lack of open-mindedness to you) is what THEIR argument is all about, when you've got their attention, remind them of who they love, and what they want for them. Everybody wants a safer place for their children, an upbringing with morals and values.....and like it or not, no one will EVER be able to come up with an argument that a society based on Christian values lacks any of those.

-Will


There is one God. There is one race - the human race. The Golden Rule rules......

[TARZAN]

There is one God. There is one race - the human race. The Golden Rule rules......


Another post that you won't find me arguing with....

-Will:clap:

[jojobeans1120]

Put the coutry and the citizens first type thing? Take care of things at home, then worry about things abroad?

[TARZAN]

Put the coutry and the citizens first type thing? Take care of things at home, then worry about things abroad?



But on the flip side, in some countries, if we don't help them, who will?

-Will

[Augustus McRae]

But on the flip side, in some countries, if we don't help them, who will?

-Will


There is honor in helping PEOPLE! Contrary to "dawg's" earlier opinion, that's the "why" of our activity in latter and post WWII Germany and other places. There is a HUGE difference - at least to me - in "helping people" and imposing ourselves into the lives and culture of people for the economic and political gain of a few. THAT is "why" we are in "..the Iraq.." Do our American fighting men and women help people while they are there? I'm sure of it - that's who they are and what they do. But it's NOT why we are there. We ATTACKED them; they did NOT come to us for help....

[jojobeans1120]

But on the flip side, in some countries, if we don't help them, who will?

-Will


I didn't mean that we "wouldn't" help. I simply think that this nation and the citizens of this nation need to be put first. For a long time now, we've been concerned about other and their opinions of our country rather than trying to fix things here. We've got some major problems that need to be addressed.

[jojobeans1120]

JoJo,

Ron Paul doesn't accept the lobby grease money that the others do. In fact, the special interests groups no longer bother stopping by his office and they've nicknamed him, "Dr. No". It's not the insurance companies, big oil, and mega-corporations who are contributing to his record-breaking fund raising. It is the many common folk like us contributing small amounts. That's pretty much says it all.

Please click on the link in my signature and join the revolution. We want our country back.

I'm giving it a read over right now. thank you, sir. :smt023

[jojobeans1120]

There is honor in helping PEOPLE! Contrary to "dawg's" earlier opinion, that's the "why" of our activity in latter and post WWII Germany and other places. There is a HUGE difference - at least to me - in "helping people" and imposing ourselves into the lives and culture of people for the economic and political gain of a few. THAT is "why" we are in "..the Iraq.." Do our American fighting men and women help people while they are there? I'm sure of it - that's who they are and what they do. But it's NOT why we are there. We ATTACKED them; they did NOT come to us for help....


That's kinda what I meant. It isn't that I don't want us to "HELP" nations that are truly in need of it. It is that I would rather keep our noses out of the BS it doesn't belong in and handle things here at home first. Make sure that our country and our people are taken care of, deal with immigration, health insurance, etc. ... Then go where we are needed and "wanted"

[jkspatty]

I cannot listen to it either, CB! But I would encourage others here to tune in to it. I think it is at 5:30 P.M. on 98.1 radio. When it starts, a very familiar local voice comes on that explains "what a Republican" is. The voice is the station manager who I am sure is paid to do it, but it's dang scary! One of the principals of the program, Chris McDaniel, a Laurel attorney, is running for the State Senate in that area. He seems like a nice, smart young man...but the ""conservative doctrine and dogman" they espouse is as scary to me as a Donald Wildmon diatribe on AFR.

I love my country, and I love my loving God - but I don't like being told how WRONG I am if I don't feel EXACTLY like some group does about either!



Chris McDaniel. That's the one whose radio ad has gunshots in it right? That is so bizarre.

[jojobeans1120]

Hawk, I had a friend of mine (Republican) tell me that this guy had a lot of good ideas but was somewhat of a whacko. After having read things on his website, I couldn't disagree more with my friend. This man has more common sense in his damn left pinky finger than most of our congressmen/women put together! I signed up for the emails, donated a few bucks, and would love to get a tee-shirt and yard sign to help spread the word. I didn't see how to contact someone local in order to do either though.....
PM me if you know of anyone. I'm totally on board! This guy obviously had the country's best interest at heart. :clap::clap::clap:

[Hob684]

Jojo, i just sent you a Pm about signs, tshirts, and the RP meetup group in H'burg. hawk and i are both members.. anyone else on here in teh meetup group?

[Hob684]

My sidekick Augustus McRae best saddle his ass and get onboard, soon. We, I God, need dat old ranger.

YAR!


(damn Hawk.. you been killin on the poker tables eh? 20mil? share some love!)

[Augustus McRae]

My sidekick Augustus McRae best saddle his ass and get onboard, soon. We, I God, need dat old ranger.


I'm IN......until the Independent American Party takes root! Just signed up!

[TheCapitalist]

I just listen to NPR... usually around this time, they're into telling stories instead of slanting news.

Ya think? :laugh:

[TheCapitalist]

In my opinion, we need a new party. The government should ONLY have the powers given to it by the constitution, and any others would be explicitly forbidden. As it is now, they think that NOTHING is outside their scope and power. Come up with this, and i'm in. i mean, look at the crap they get into that is none of their business (90%) of it. And the main roles: protection, sovereignty, protecting borders, etc. are ignored altogether.

I generally vote Republican, but voted for 2 democrats today. Why the hell did we have to create another area of gov. ( Homeland security) to do what they should have been doing all along with the existing beaurocracy: PROTECTING OUR ASS. Anyway, it let everyone that should have been doing this off the hook, and created another level of beaurocracy that can consume my hard earned money. AAARRRRGGGHHH@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scipio]

I've often thought that we should consider the wisdom of Ben Franklin, who wanted us to adopt the wild turkey as the national bird. I founded the American Wild Turkey Party three years ago, and can boast membership worldwide. Sadly, we have yet to field a candidate, largely because Austin Nichols, the maker of Wild Turkey, continues to bar my trademark application.

[Augustus McRae]

I've often thought that we should consider the wisdom of Ben Franklin, who wanted us to adopt the wild turkey as the national bird. I founded the American Wild Turkey Party three years ago, and can boast membership worldwide. Sadly, we have yet to field a candidate, largely because Austin Nichols, the maker of Wild Turkey, continues to bar my trademark application.


You one interestin' dude, skippy....

[Scipio]

Thanks, Gus.

[Old Man River]

Speaking about The Right Side, someone above wrote: When it starts, a very familiar local voice comes on that explains "what a Republican" is. The voice is the station manager who I am sure is paid to do it, but it's dang scary!

Well... I did it... I paid special attention to the "what a Republican is" commercial today. It is an ad sponsored by John Parker, Chairman of the Jones County Republican Party.

I listened and I thought about it. It sounded perfectly normal to me. In fact, over 90 percent of it came from the national Republican platform. So, I guess I'm confused.

I did not hear anything at all that sounded "scary." I'm sure it sound "scary" to most Democrats, but I did not hear it.

Which parts of the "scary" commercial are you talking about? Specifically...