Mike Huckabee For President Thread

[dollfus46]

That is not why I groaned. I groaned because he said he would never read anything written by the NYT, which in real life, would cause me to groan.

Is groaning a big deal around here? Have I missed something?
It needs to be redefined, Reason. No one's post is nor should it be considered un useful, i.e., useless, without value, worthless. So yes, It's highly offensive to many.

[hendrixfreak70]

Sounds like my kind of group. Hijacked the traditional conservative values. Do you know you're the only person here I've ever heard use the term traditional conservative? Heh heh heh. It's always neo-conservative, radical conservative, radical right, religious right. The tern Neo conservative is used arbitrarily with no concept to it's meaning. Neo=New. It was started during the Reagan era as Democrats crossed over and voted for Reagan. They became neo-conservatives. Or new conservatives. Why can't we just be conservatives? Liberals whine about us using the term "liberal" as something bad but they turn around and call us everything negative but just plain conservative. You'd think a conservative never existed. You cannot find one liberal here that has ever used the term "conservative". They just can't do it.:laugh:

Here is what I mean by the difference: Traditional conservatives (Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Grover Cleveland) all espoused small government and non-intervetnionalism. Neo-conservatives espouse an expansive foreign policy and entangling alliances. Traditional conservatives wanted the government out of our lives. Neo-conservatives want the government spying on us, of course to protect us from the terrorists (rolls eyes and says very loudly HMPPH!) Traditional conservatives are not welcoming of neo-conservatives because paleoconservatives (like Pat Buchanan) see through the crap. It used to be traditional conservatives wanted fiscal responsibility by NOT spending our money. Now the hijacked wing of conservatism wants to spend 80 billion dollars a year just on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.... not a very conservative ideal at all. Liberals and neo-conservatives are of the same ilk, as you can see.

[dollfus46]

Liberals and neo-conservatives are of the same ilk, as you can see.

No one else here knows that. But you need to make yourself scarce when Sue comes around and reads that. Heh heh heh. The fit is gonna hit the shan.:bowrofl:

[hendrixfreak70]

Sue and I agree on certain issues rather amicably. I don't want my money going to the lazy any more than I want my money going overseas to manage an empire either. Big Business Republicans and Big Government Democrats are essentially helping wipe out the middle class.

[Reason]

So, Huckabee's son stoned, hung and slit the throat of a dog while in the Boy Scouts, and Huckabee allegedly covered it up.

Link to story in Newsweek. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)

Well, I think that pretty much wraps things up for Huckabee. This will play out much worse in the media than Howard Dean's yelp.

[Conveyor Belt]

So, Huckabee's son stoned, hung and slit the throat of a dog while in the Boy Scouts, and Huckabee allegedly covered it up.

Link to story in Newsweek. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)

Well, I think that pretty much wraps things up for Huckabee. This will play out much worse in the media than Howard Dean's yelp.

They say theres a treasure trove of stuff on Huckabee... that's why there's not a lot coming out now b/c they're saving if he gets the nod.

Nothing like raising up a serial killer...

So, when did Huckabee stop sniffing little girl's panties?

[dreamhippy]

I keep trying to tell y`all, Ron Paul`s the only conservative running (okay, and maybe Keyes).

[rdawg]

So, Huckabee's son stoned, hung and slit the throat of a dog while in the Boy Scouts, and Huckabee allegedly covered it up.

Link to story in Newsweek. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241)

Well, I think that pretty much wraps things up for Huckabee. This will play out much worse in the media than Howard Dean's yelp.

Wow, can't believe that you guys are actually tring to count that against Huck. But whatever, you people can keep throwing everything at us and it will just keep making us stronger. Keeping hoping for the fall out but it isn't coming. See the article about fake accusations from the romney campaign on huck that were bought to light by the same mag.


http://www.newsweek.com/id/80949

[dreamhippy]

Be sure to read the following before deciding to vote for Huckabee:

http://www.taxhikemike.org/
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-...cal_record.html (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/huckabees_fiscal_record.html)
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[dollfus46]

I keep trying to tell y`all, Ron Paul`s the only conservative running (okay, and maybe Keyes).

You apparently haven't looked at Duncan Hunter.

[dreamhippy]

I should have said "Constitutional Conservative".

[dollfus46]

I should have said "Constitutional Conservative".
About the only difference in Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul is their stand on the war and foreign policy or lack of any. I happen to think pulling all our troops back home from around the world is a serious mistake, not to mention the treaties he'd violate and the "friends" he'd turn his back on. I just don't think it's as simple as Ronnie makes it sound. Nor do I think we'll get the results he thinks we'll get.

[dreamhippy]

Mitt Romney wants the RFID chips or REAL ID Cards. Mike Huckabee wants the “fair tax”.
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[Luvia]

I have NO idea who I am going to vote for...although I do know who I will NOT be voting for... So naturally, I'm looking at all my options (even though it's still early). I was *told* by someone and heard it on some show on tv that Huck thought the world was only 6000 years old and denied evolution. I was REALLY disturbed that anyone running for president would truly believe that.

Anyway, I looked it up and found an interview on youtube. From what I understand, he is NOT saying either of those things...he basically said he felt God was the force behind whatever happened however long ago it was. Very very different from denying evolution and the age of the earth.

So I'm sorry if this has been discussed before...but I found myself really agitated by the conflicting stories. How frustrating to have your words so screwed up by media and rumors.

Here's the youtube link. Bill Maher is the biggest jerk I've ever seen. He should marry Hillary. No excuse ever..EVER...for being an...ok nice language here...schmuck/jerk/mean-spirited/condescending/....

YouTube - Mike Huckabee Denies Evolution

[dreamhippy]

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/21/straw-poll-dec-21-jan-4/


This straw poll by AOL is interesting.

[dreamhippy]

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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Just like the proverbial frog in hot water, many people will not get out until it’s too late!

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[Conveyor Belt]

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/21/straw-poll-dec-21-jan-4/


This straw poll by AOL is interesting.

It's very interesting on the Democratic side. Clinton with a HUGE lead over Obama... I just don't see how that's possible... Then again, Paul is leading in over 40 states.

[rdawg]

WE believed now it's time for everyone else. A special thanks to all Iowans who got out to support the best man for the job.

Huckabee for President 2008

[TDaleBeavers]

Way To Go, Huck!!!!

[TDaleBeavers]

Huck is on Fox News giving his victory speech now...with an interview on Hannity and Colmes to follow!

[fuzzis]

So much for the Paul supporters turning out in droves.

[dreamhippy]

I gave them too much credit for intellect. People are voting for faces, not platforms. It is sad. :(

[Kitty]

Chuck Norris (http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=185949) is supporting Mike Huckabee? :smt103

The other candidates should take note, because contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship (http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/). :-D

[dreamhippy]

So much for the Paul supporters turning out in droves.

Ron Paul garnered 10% vote tonight which is quite respectful for the small investment in campaigning in Iowa he did.

[fuzzis]

Ron Paul garnered 10% vote tonight which is quite respectful for the small investment in campaigning in Iowa he did.

Perhaps, but that's not what Paulites were telling us was going to happen.

Paul isn't playing the game by the rules that have been established...and he's paying the price. He's going to have to get in gear...with less than a month to go. If that.

[Conveyor Belt]

Perhaps, but that's not what Paulites were telling us was going to happen.

Paul isn't playing the game by the rules that have been established...and he's paying the price. He's going to have to get in gear...with less than a month to go. If that.

If we still had the rep system, I'd unload some on you for this one. 10% is not a revolution. It's a flash in the pan, if that.

Paul's message is great, but I'm not sure he's the right messenger.

I still think Obama takes the whole thing.

[dollfus46]

Chit! When did we do away with the rep system? Why? Just yesterday I had 21 power that took me over a year to earn.

[Conveyor Belt]

Chit! When did we do away with the rep system? Why? Just yesterday I had 21 power that took me over a year to earn.

I think it was part of the olive branch. It wasn't really doing what it was intended to do, anyhow.

[dollfus46]

I think it was part of the olive branch. It wasn't really doing what it was intended to do, anyhow.

Olive Branch? Mississippi? We haven't had a nasty confrontation since the blow up a month ago and many of the trouble makers were banned. It's been very respectful and quiet. It's less offensive than the groan. What was it intended to do? It kept me from telling people what I thought of them and the swaybacked camel they rode in on. :kekeke: Now we're going to leave it up to someone else to tell me if I was insulted or not? I'd be surprised if that works at all.:(

[dreamhippy]

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20080104.html (http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20080104.html)

All who think they love Huckabee should consider reading this before being certain of their devotion and dedication to him as first choice for a candidate!

[rdawg]

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20080104.html (http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20080104.html)

All who think they love Huckabee should consider reading this before being certain of their devotion and dedication to him as first choice for a candidate!

Not devoted to Huckabee, rather to Christ and the morality he teaches. Big government i don't think so. Comparasion to Hitler pretty foolish. Huckabee Is a Christian, and a minister these are things that make him who he is. "my faith defines me." he said in a speech. You can be a Christian and in politics, you don't have to leave you faith outside when you go into the campaign stops. I support Huckabee for his stance on the issues his plans for his presidency and his character not because he is the bible thumping one.

[dreamhippy]

That whole CFR link to a bigger government and One World government ideology doesn`t bother you then? It tells me he is not all he seems to be. A true patriot, in my opinion, (just take it for what it is worth, no more or less than anyone else`s) cannot desire this country to be subordinate to the Communist UN, or any other foreign government short of the Second Coming of Christ. I do not see the comparison to Hitler as foolish, but as very appropriate. Hitler came to power in his country as a "Law and Order man", wrapped in his nation`s flag and displaying the cross.

[dollfus46]

I'm voting for the MAN who I think can deal best with the middle east. It's looking more like McCain after all for me. Obama Yo Mama and Huckleberry just ain't up for the job. Obama is extreme left wing, smart, but naive. He wants to talk with the enemy still. That's wizzing in the wind. We've carried on "talks" with Iran, almost nonstop for years now. Where's Virgo's son. I want him to wave at the U.N. in his new found manner. And I want him to teach our President how to do it too. I want the borders closed. The illegal aliens run out of the U.S. No citizenship for children of illegals or non citizens.I want English to be the official and only language of the U.S. I want our school system fixed. I want tenure outlawed. No one is guaranteed a job. It's not a right. Low taxes, a balance budget. No inheritence tax. A flat income tax, no deduction for individuals, businesses, churches, everything that takes in money. Charities excluded if they can prove 80% goes to charity and no more than 20% to overhead. That's the dude I"m voting for. Other than me, does he exist? I may have to write in my name and hire Herbert Bush as my Sec. of State.

[rdawg]

Hitler also spelt out his plans to eliminate the Jew when he wrote Mein Kampf. He was truly using Christianity to make him seem a like a good guy. Huckabee is actually a good guy. "I oppose the economic integration of North America that would create open borders among the United States, Canada, and Mexico. I will never yield one iota or one inch of our sovereignty"- mike huckabee. This is obviously a smear attack against Huckabee by a Paul supporter.

[dreamhippy]

I understand. However the CFR link is there, and it is what it is, even if the majority of Americans are as in-the-dark as mushrooms about it.

[rdawg]

Haas made that statement. and ed rollins was once accused of being racially insensitive. Does that make huck a globalist and a racist?

[dreamhippy]

"We must first destroy existing terrorist groups and then attack the underlying conditions that breed them: the lack of basic sanitation, health care, education, jobs, a free press, fair courts - which all translates into a lack of opportunity and hope. The United States' strategic interests as the world's most powerful country coincide with its moral obligations as the richest." -Mike Huckabee

Sounds like he wants to use tax-payer`s dollars for more than just war OVERSEAS. We should be prepared to spend many more United States tax dollars rebuilding Iraq into whatever the Establishment leaders decide will be suitable to their interests.

[hendrixfreak70]

You are the company you keep. Ron Paul keeps the Constitution by his side. What does Huckabee have?? Haas. CFR globalists. Seriously, all you have to do is read any quote by Richard Haas and you will see. If Huckabee got rid of Haas and the CFR for good he may be reasonable. However, with all of this media attention after his meeting with the CFR back in Septemeber is it no suprise that he had a spike in polling? Polling, of course they had Paul at 5% in Iowa, a state that he went to less than Giuliani and placed with 10%. So much for polling. Polls also have 33% of Americans believing 9/11 was an inside job. Do all you poll-crazy people believe that one? If you ask me for a link to the polls I am talking about just ask.

[Conveyor Belt]

Polls also have 33% of Americans believing 9/11 was an inside job. Do all you poll-crazy people believe that one? If you ask me for a link to the polls I am talking about just ask.

Actually, I do think that 33% of people thinking 9/11 was an inside job might not be far off. I've heard lots of people talking about it like it was fact.

[hendrixfreak70]

Actually, I do think that 33% of people thinking 9/11 was an inside job might not be far off. I've heard lots of people talking about it like it was fact.


Hmmm. That's interesting. I haven't heard many people say it. However, many people will believe that it wasn't an inside job because they will not at least consider it is a possibility. I could walk up to a random person and ask, 'hey do you believe our government would lie to us'? I would say 90% of the people would say yes. Ask them if the government would cover something up. They would most likely answer yes at a 90% clip. Ask them if 9/11 was an inside job and they would say, 'no way man' or 'naw, why in the world would they do that'. They would do so without even having a reason for saying it. Seriously, try it. I have and you get alot of crazy looks, laughs, and sneers.

[Conveyor Belt]

Momma told me not to talk to strangers.

[hendrixfreak70]

I actually think that the clip of people who believe 9/11 was an inside job would be roughly 3-5% of the population. Or at least the neo-conservative freakshows like Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh would have us believe. I have all heard them say that 9/11 truthers are a small group that do not represent the ideals of hardly anyone. But the polling of it would tell us otherwise. So, whom do we believe??

[dollfus46]

I actually think that the clip of people who believe 9/11 was an inside job would be roughly 3-5% of the population. Or at least the neo-conservative freakshows like Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh would have us believe. I have all heard them say that 9/11 truthers are a small group that do not represent the ideals of hardly anyone. But the polling of it would tell us otherwise. So, whom do we believe??

I think you just called four people freakshows and agreed with them. I don't find any of them freakshows. Hannity is a light weight, but the rest are extremely bright conservatives. They had to match Hannity with Colmes because Colmes is a total nitwit in my opinion. He's a light weight liberal with little credentials. Any conservative talk show host you think aren't freakshows? You've named most except Reagan and Ingram. Or do you just think all conservatives are nuts, freaks, stupid?
How many think 911 was an inside job? I don't care. The ones I've heard say so really are radical left wing loons. All I have to do is look at the expression on Bush's face when he got the news to believe he never saw it coming.

[Conveyor Belt]

I can't believe some Americans would go so far as to even think that 9/11 being orchestrated by the US is even possible.

[onlyme]

All I have to do is look at the expression on Bush's face when he got the news to believe he never saw it coming.

You're right. He looked like he always does. :evil:

[SueScribe]

Mike Huckabee for President ?! All I can say is, "Gollll-eee Shazam!" Can he sing?

[dreamhippy]

But, let`s give him credit, he is still probably a better bargain than Rudy "the crook" Giuliani:

YouTube - MSNBC Live with Dan Abrams - Fox-Giuliani Connection








http://nonais.org/index.php/2008/01/05/835/

[SueScribe]

Lookit:

We can't go from crazed cowboy to a cheery preacher-man who doesn't seem to know that Pakistanis aren't flooding across the Mexican border, or that martial law was NOT in effect when Bhutto was assissinated, AND who happens to be yet another man who believes he's on a Mission From God (see "crazed cowboy", above).

At this hour in our history, we cannot continue to foment the belief among our enemies and allies alike that we - the US of A - have fallen off the rational, reasoned cliff - permanently.

Just my oh-pinion, but I stand squarely behind the gist.

[dollfus46]

Nothing conservative about Huckleberry. Huge misnomer.

[hendrixfreak70]

I think you just called four people freakshows and agreed with them. I don't find any of them freakshows. Hannity is a light weight, but the rest are extremely bright conservatives. They had to match Hannity with Colmes because Colmes is a total nitwit in my opinion. He's a light weight liberal with little credentials. Any conservative talk show host you think aren't freakshows? You've named most except Reagan and Ingram. Or do you just think all conservatives are nuts, freaks, stupid?
How many think 911 was an inside job? I don't care. The ones I've heard say so really are radical left wing loons. All I have to do is look at the expression on Bush's face when he got the news to believe he never saw it coming.

I'm saying there is no one to believe. Malkin once believed 9/11 was an inside job. Look it up, she did.

[rdawg]

Hoping for a strong Third tonight!

[dollfus46]

I'm saying there is no one to believe. Malkin once believed 9/11 was an inside job. Look it up, she did.
she used to believe in santa clause too. She doesn't anymore.

[N40th]

I'll give this to Huckabee . . . he's both less annoying and less Bible-thumping than John Eaves.

[dollfus46]

Lookit:

We can't go from crazed cowboy to a cheery preacher-man who doesn't seem to know that Pakistanis aren't flooding across the Mexican border, or that martial law was NOT in effect when Bhutto was assissinated, AND who happens to be yet another man who believes he's on a Mission From God (see "crazed cowboy", above).

At this hour in our history, we cannot continue to foment the belief among our enemies and allies alike that we - the US of A - have fallen off the rational, reasoned cliff - permanently.

Just my oh-pinion, but I stand squarely behind the gist.

I was just reading about Huckleberry. He believes the answer is to treat others as you want to be treated. What a buffoon. At least to naive to be President.

[dreamhippy]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/06/politics/fromtheroad/entry3680193.shtml

He is beginning to sound like a more intelligent human.

[dollfus46]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/06/politics/fromtheroad/entry3680193.shtml

He is beginning to sound like a more intelligent human.

He's merely harking back to his Middle School Political science classs. Wars cost money. Wars always create deficits. And at the cost of war machines today, the deficits come fast. Nothing new here. Maybe Iraq will actually repay their debt, unlike Germany, Russia, Japan, and a bunch of other countries who reniged after WWII.

[dollfus46]

Mike Huckabee for President ?! All I can say is, "Gollll-eee Shazam!" Can he sing?

He calls himself Shuffleberry these days.:laugh:

[rdawg]

Great article pulled form real claear politics...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/01/huckabee_has_momentum.html

[dreamhippy]

Here is an article on Huckabee on Home schooling:

http://www.home-school.com/news/huckabee.html

[rdawg]

Michigan is here!!! My hope is for a good showing possibly a win, but definately a goodnight sweetheart to Mitt Romney!!!!

[mspolitics82]

Hoping for a strong Third tonight!


Well, it was third, but far from strong. Maybe next time


I just wish we had some real conservatives.... the Republican party that I have supported for years has not had lawmakers and leadership that know what the word conservative really means in quite a while.

[dollfus46]

Well, it was third, but far from strong. Maybe next time


I just wish we had some real conservatives.... the Republican party that I have supported for years has not had lawmakers and leadership that know what the word conservative really means in quite a while.
MSpolitics, the only true blue, card-carrying conservative, right down the line is Duncan Hunter. And he's getting killed. We're gonna have to accept a centrist once again. I just can't go with McCain though. Nothing Republican nor conservative about him. He's more left than center and people can't see it.

[TDaleBeavers]

Huckabee definitely needs to win South Carolina to stay in the game now. The latest polls I saw show a four way race in Florida, and a Huck victory could well propel him in Florida. In Giuliani's case, he either wins Florida or he should hang it up -- his skip the early states strategy has utterly flopped!

[dollfus46]

Huckabee definitely needs to win South Carolina to stay in the game now. The latest polls I saw show a four way race in Florida, and a Huck victory could well propel him in Florida. In Giuliani's case, he either wins Florida or he should hang it up -- his skip the early states strategy has utterly flopped!

Well, much to my disliking, Huckabee will probably win SC. McCain is disliked here as is his Butt-buddy, Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
I hope Romney takes it. I'm pretty much in the Romney camp now out of lack of choice. I just don't think Huckabee has the smarts for the job. McCain won't close the borders and wants amnesty for illegals and voted against the bush tax cuts and was head of the Elite 14 who knuckled under to an out numbered Democratic Senate. Ron Paul is about out, as is the Saint Bernard looking clown from Tennessee who has to taze himself to look like he's even breathing. Duncan Hunter was my man but I can't even see his arse from here. He's crashed and burned in a ditch somewhere. At least Romney has plenty of brains, business sense, will close the borders and outlaw sanctuary cities. Cut taxes and win the war against terrorists in Iraq. That more than any other Republican or Democrat will do. :( Now that I've had this time to reflect, it's a sad situation all around ain't it?

[rdawg]

[quote=mspolitics82;445416]Well, it was third, but far from strong. Maybe next time



SC will be a definate victory for our camp

[mspolitics82]

Now that I've had this time to reflect, it's a sad situation all around ain't it?


Amen, and amen. This election offers no real choice....although I will vote, if for no other reason but to try to keep the real libs from winning, At best, we will have a moderate/right....and I have to agree that Romney is probably the best choice of those who have a fightin' chance at this point in time. It indeed is a sad situation....but it will truly be sad if we do not get someone who will be willing to push for securing the border (even stopping all legal immigration until it's secure), provide a workable plan to deal with illegals who are here (which means making employers verify legal status of workers, mandating proof of legal status for public benefits, etc.---a plan that will eventually, through attrition, drastically reduce the numbers), STOP OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING, make tax cuts permanent, find a workable, logical replacement for the current income tax, get rid of the entitlements to able-bodied Americans (which will go a LONG, LONG way toward finding workers and replacing illegal aliens), and continue to make national defense a priority. Now, is that asking too much.....I don't think so, but which candidate has said that he is willing to do ALL of those?

Not Huckabee...not McCain.....not Giuliani....not sure about Romney or Thompson.......the other Republican candidates don't have a chance to win, and NONE of the Dems would come close to doing half of what I listed.

[dollfus46]

Amen, and amen. This election offers no real choice....although I will vote, if for no other reason but to try to keep the real libs from winning, At best, we will have a moderate/right....and I have to agree that Romney is probably the best choice of those who have a fightin' chance at this point in time. It indeed is a sad situation....but it will truly be sad if we do not get someone who will be willing to push for securing the border (even stopping all legal immigration until it's secure), provide a workable plan to deal with illegals who are here (which means making employers verify legal status of workers, mandating proof of legal status for public benefits, etc.---a plan that will eventually, through attrition, drastically reduce the numbers), STOP OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING, make tax cuts permanent, find a workable, logical replacement for the current income tax, get rid of the entitlements to able-bodied Americans (which will go a LONG, LONG way toward finding workers and replacing illegal aliens), and continue to make national defense a priority. Now, is that asking too much.....I don't think so, but which candidate has said that he is willing to do ALL of those?

Not Huckabee...not McCain.....not Giuliani....not sure about Romney or Thompson.......the other Republican candidates don't have a chance to win, and NONE of the Dems would come close to doing half of what I listed.

That's just it mspolitics. I don't think there's a nickel's difference in Obama and Clinton, except Obama isn't crooked. They are both far lefties. Off the charts left. But you can't get everything you want in any of the Republican candidates except Duncan Hunter. We'll have to compromise. Our problem is what are we willing to give up, or what is most important to us. I think the media has played a huge part in knocking off Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter. Huckabee is far more liberal than he lets on. Reminds me of Clinton and Bush. Heh heh heh. Both moved to the center to get elected but are more liberal than we thought.

[dollfus46]

Amen, and amen. This election offers no real choice....although I will vote, if for no other reason but to try to keep the real libs from winning, At best, we will have a moderate/right....and I have to agree that Romney is probably the best choice of those who have a fightin' chance at this point in time. It indeed is a sad situation....but it will truly be sad if we do not get someone who will be willing to push for securing the border (even stopping all legal immigration until it's secure), provide a workable plan to deal with illegals who are here (which means making employers verify legal status of workers, mandating proof of legal status for public benefits, etc.---a plan that will eventually, through attrition, drastically reduce the numbers), STOP OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING, make tax cuts permanent, find a workable, logical replacement for the current income tax, get rid of the entitlements to able-bodied Americans (which will go a LONG, LONG way toward finding workers and replacing illegal aliens), and continue to make national defense a priority. Now, is that asking too much.....I don't think so, but which candidate has said that he is willing to do ALL of those?

Not Huckabee...not McCain.....not Giuliani....not sure about Romney or Thompson.......the other Republican candidates don't have a chance to win, and NONE of the Dems would come close to doing half of what I listed.

That's just it mspolitics. I don't think there's a nickel's difference in Obama and Clinton, except Obama isn't crooked. They are both far lefties. Off the charts left. But you can't get everything you want in any of the Republican candidates except Duncan Hunter. We'll have to compromise. Our problem is what are we willing to give up, or what is most important to us. I think the media has played a huge part in knocking off Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter. Huckabee is far more liberal than he lets on. Reminds me of Clinton and Bush. Heh heh heh. Both moved to the center to get elected but are more liberal than we thought.

[rdawg]

Romney is just more of the same. Another big business guy, whose dad was a politician too. I like W, but I am just tired of big $$$ holding on to all branches of our government.

[dollfus46]

Romney is just more of the same. Another big business guy, whose dad was a politician too. I like W, but I am just tired of big $$$ holding on to all branches of our government.

I feel ya rdawg. But money buys it everytime all the way back to Kennedy. Joe Kennedy's bootleg scotch whiskey business bought the election from Nixon. Been doing it ever since. That's why I want a cap on campaign funds. Makes everyone even and depends on their message and their saavy in spending the money intelligently. Accept no private donations from either individuals nor corporations. Federal gov't, you and I, give each qualified candidate say......$50 million. Pulled that figure from a warm dark place. Doesn't matter how much. Cuts out foreign interference, special interest groups far left and far right. No one can control the election except the candidates.:clap:

[BLAW]

During the primaries, people state their "heart". When it gets down to voting for the final canidates, I pray people will use their heads. I have been saying for well over a year that John McCain was just not who I thought was the man for the Republicans. My frustration with the GOP is that there does not seem to be any young up and coming leadership in the party. McCain, I believe is about 73. Thats not young. If he won, he would probably be a 1-term prez. After following the candidates during these primaries, I believe McCain will face Hillary when the smoke clears. THE ONLY way that the GOP will then have a chance of retaining the white house would then be with the selection of a running mate. The great majority of people in this country (Democrats & Republicans) are more than ready for a change of leadership, perhaps something that does not remind them of the last 8 years. Could a "McCain / Liberman" ticket be the answer?

[dreamhippy]

A McCain / Leiberman ticket would probably be doomed from the outset.

[rdawg]

During the primaries, people state their "heart". When it gets down to voting for the final canidates, I pray people will use their heads. I have been saying for well over a year that John McCain was just not who I thought was the man for the Republicans. My frustration with the GOP is that there does not seem to be any young up and coming leadership in the party. McCain, I believe is about 73. Thats not young. If he won, he would probably be a 1-term prez. After following the candidates during these primaries, I believe McCain will face Hillary when the smoke clears. THE ONLY way that the GOP will then have a chance of retaining the white house would then be with the selection of a running mate. The great majority of people in this country (Democrats & Republicans) are more than ready for a change of leadership, perhaps something that does not remind them of the last 8 years. Could a "McCain / Liberman" ticket be the answer?


Young leadership= Mike Huckabee, McCain and Liberman would be an outright joke!!!!

[rdawg]

Time for A victory in SC!!!!!!

[dollfus46]

A McCain / Leiberman ticket would probably be doomed from the outset.

McCain would pick Lindsey Graham as his running mate or make him Attorney General.

[dreamhippy]

ANY POLITICIAN who wants to "stimulate the economy" (buy your votes and/or finance the rest of their campaign) with Federal dollars borrowed in money from the future National Debt, is in essence getting YOU to pay YOU money NOW, so THEY can get elected and YOU can owe money later. Remember, when the old folks told you that you cannot borrow your way out of debt? They were right, you cannot. These politicians are mighty slick with spending the nation into the poorhouse. We have to be smart enough to say, "no". An economic stimulus package (like those of Hillary or Mitt) that hikes the National Debt for a boost to the economy now is something like those parents who sell their children, only in this case it is merely selling the children`s futures. Expedience is no justification for poor economic policy. Ron Paul has a stimulus package that according to professional economists is the only one yet offered by a Presidential candidate that would be likely to work.

[dreamhippy]

I think Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee are the only candidates left that are against the Automatic Weapons ban.
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[dollfus46]

I think it's one thing to own a pistol and a rifle or shotgun, but these automatic weapons are crazy. Why not hand granades and rocket launchers? I just don't see it.

[dreamhippy]

"Shall not be infringed" doesn`t mean "shall be infringed a little bit, as needed". Read Animal Farm again.

[dollfus46]

"Shall not be infringed" doesn`t mean "shall be infringed a little bit, as needed". Read Animal Farm again.

Well, now, I see your point but to limit or define "arms" is a bit different. With your definition, it's legal to have wmd's in your house. A suitcase dirty bomb to protect yourself. I could be wrong here and I'm open to suggestion.

[BayFly]

I think the automatic weapons is a slippery slope but I also don't know about whether I want politicans picking my guns out. I have automatic shotguns and rifles for hunting, who is to say govt. will not chose to start rounding up guns of private citzens , that being said I don't agree with allowing super automatics weapons that are just crazy powerful. The N.R.A . is a powerful group that does a lot of good about stopping infringement of the right to bear arms and I am a member. I think most of violent acts commited with guns are commited by felons who by law shouldn't posses guns, Do we need more laws are just follow through with what we already have?

[hburgguy06]

If Huckabee doesn't win the nomination nor gets a VP slot... I am going to urge him to seek an independent bid for the White House... I'll no longer settle for the establishment candidates.. I do not want McCain or Romney...

[dollfus46]

If Huckabee doesn't win the nomination nor gets a VP slot... I am going to urge him to seek an independent bid for the White House... I'll no longer settle for the establishment candidates.. I do not want McCain or Romney...

Cool. You have access to Huckleberry? I don't think he has the money to continue this race, much less launch an independent bid. don't think it'll happen.

[rdawg]

Even though the media has tried to give the election to Romney or McCain I still believe. The game isn't over yet and we can still win. Keep the dream alive Huckabee '08

[rdawg]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/schneider-the-nights-big-winner-huckabee-2/

[rdawg]

Make or Break Time is Here. Lets us pray that the world is turned upside down today and Mike sails to vicories in many states and we say goodbye to Romney! Stick it to the media all you voters in super Tuesday lands! Vote your heart, your conscience, VOTE HUCKABEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hendrixfreak70]

I will be voting my conscience, Ron Paul. :) March 11th that is.

[jojobeans1120]

Huckabee has won West Virginia!!!

Perhaps not all hope is lost for the GOP???

[Conveyor Belt]

How can anyone win anything yet? Don't the polls close at 7pm? Is WV a caucus?

[jojobeans1120]

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/05/paul-eliminated-wva-gop-convention-voting-ends-without-winner/




"Mike Huckabee won the first of 21 GOP contests on Super Tuesday, pulling out a victory in the West Virginia Republican convention even though Mitt Romney won the first round."

[Conveyor Belt]

Ahhh. they have a convention, not an actual vote. gotcha.

[jojobeans1120]

Well, it has come out that McCain made a call to his delegates and told them to throw his to Huckabee, only to prevent Romney from winning.

If this is the case, he's no better than Hillary Clinton in my eyes. He's in it to win it, no matter what the cost....

I hope not another ballot is cast for him, if this is true!!

[onlyme]

Well, it has come out that McCain made a call to his delegates and told them to throw his to Huckabee, only to prevent Romney from winning.

If this is the case, he's no better than Hillary Clinton in my eyes. He's in it to win it, no matter what the cost....

I hope not another ballot is cast for him, if this is true!!

Of course they are in it to win it, what else? Every single candidate is extremely ambitious and full of him-/herself. If you don't believe in yourself, why should others believe in you?

[jojobeans1120]

I'm shocked. Huckabee is doing much better than I imagined him doing. I hope he continues to do well!!! :clap::clap:


I loved his comment about everyone calling this a "two man race."
Huckabee said, "it is a two man race, me and McCain!"

:clap::clap::clap:

[dollfus46]

I'm shocked. Huckabee is doing much better than I imagined him doing. I hope he continues to do well!!! :clap::clap:


I loved his comment about everyone calling this a "two man race."
Huckabee said, "it is a two man race, me and McCain!"

:clap::clap::clap:

Heh heh heh. I'm stunned too. He took twice as many states as Conme did. WOW! Except for stupida$$ed SC, where I live, Huckleberry owns the South. Now what is the Republican Party going to do with him. HE'S the elephant in their living room. Heh heh heh. What says a lot to me is the way each candidate did in his own state. As McBane told Conme, they know you best. McBane didn't even get 50% of AZ. Conme didn't get 50% of MA, but Huckleberry kicked a$$ in Arkansas.
Shrillary is still spouting Socialist propaganda while Obama Yo Mama isn't saying anything but "Change". Yet everyone says there's not a snap's difference in the two of them. I don't think enthusiasm by the Dems is any indication of a Democrat in the White House. We're a long way from finishing this deal in either party.:clap:

[Fish-Bait]

This whole ordeal sucks...

[dollfus46]

This whole ordeal sucks...

It do get tiresome. I had two women on Sheppard Smith's show, trying to yell over each other that I turned it off. I hate that.

[dreamhippy]

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/ (http://dougwead.wordpress.com/)

Interesting take on how Mike`s been underestimated, and why.

[jojobeans1120]

It do get tiresome. I had two women on Sheppard Smith's show, trying to yell over each other that I turned it off. I hate that.


I LOVE Sheppard! :clap::clap:

[dollfus46]

I LOVE Sheppard! :clap::clap:

I do to. He's the best. Course someone here thinks he's an immoral lying whatever. I can't see it. But then, I must be stupid.:smt086