Trailblazing on Old Ricton?

[ruckus]

So what's the story behind the tree slaying near the fork? We getting another road/neighborhood out here, or is that a new pipeline?

[Bluesman]

New pipeline.

[ruckus]

So now we can at least see the deer coming. That's a plus.

[ComputerDude]

pipeline for...?????
How will it make my life better/worse?

[Fish-Bait]

Pipeline for stuff like gas....For worse, if it blows up near your crib then you'll will prolly have to replace all of your windows....For Better? If you lease that 16th section land in that block up the road you will have a line of sight that is unobstructed for deer hunting. :)

[ComputerDude]

Pipeline for stuff like gas....For worse, if it blows up near your crib then you'll will prolly have to replace all of your windows....For Better? If you lease that 16th section land in that block up the road you will have a line of sight that is unobstructed for deer hunting. :)
So basically for me, there's no advantage. ;)

[Chichiguita]

OKay--heres my question about all this tree slaying...I was meaning to ask dts about this...

I know very little about forrestry and this is a sincere question. What keeps them from taking down/out all the trees that were so damaged in the hurricane?

[fuzzis]

OKay--heres my question about all this tree slaying...I was meaning to ask dts about this...

I know very little about forrestry and this is a sincere question. What keeps them from taking down/out all the trees that were so damaged in the hurricane?

Money?

[Fish-Bait]

OKay--heres my question about all this tree slaying...I was meaning to ask dts about this...

I know very little about forrestry and this is a sincere question. What keeps them from taking down/out all the trees that were so damaged in the hurricane?

In hard hit swaths chici alot of timber was salvaged. I know of several log storage sites that went up right after Katrina in this area especially around Wiggins. Most of it was Pine timber that was salvaged though. It's really alot of trouble to go down into the hardwood bottoms with equipment and try and salvage the hardwood that was blown over. Most of the "blown over hardwoods" were in the wet or "branch" areas as we call them down in this section of the country. You have to wait till those areas dry out to try and salvage that kind of timber. Alot of what you are seeing is "spot" areas. These are areas where just a few trees here and there are blown over or are just now dying off from being battered during the storm.

If there is a forrester on here he can prolly correct or enhance that paragraph, but I think you'll get the jist' of it.

[Fish-Bait]

So basically for me, there's no advantage. ;)

Absolutely correct....and watch for deer when you go to town.

[Dixie Tree Slayer]

OKay--heres my question about all this tree slaying...I was meaning to ask dts about this...

I know very little about forrestry and this is a sincere question. What keeps them from taking down/out all the trees that were so damaged in the hurricane?The remaining "damaged" trees are not good for lumber. The chance the grain inside the trees that are damaged are pulled and split are greater. The best use for them would be to use them as paperwood for converting into of course paper... Only problem is the trees are bought by the ton. The damaged trees have lost their moisture and are pretty darn light. So, take a tree that weighs 1500 pounds, or using the same effort fuel manpower etc take a similar sized tree that weighs only a third of the green tree... This would take three times the effort to make the same money...
The incentive then is to leave the damaged tree and take the heavier tree.
Plus there is a big tax break for the damaged trees on forested lands so the land owner got paid for them in essence already... Maybe even stretched the loss over the course of a few years...
Brings a tear to my eyes when someone takes an interest in tree slaying... Want to come watch me kill a tree? For money even???:kekeke: Just kidding... I have taken a few trees out that the home owners were afraid of. I tell them it survived Katrina it should be able to weather anything else i it looks healthy. But being able to sleep peacefully at night and having peace of mind are worth my efforts if that is the way they want to go... ;)
Take a look at my profile pic of me trimming back an oak by a customer's house...

Wait here it is http://www.myhattiesburg.com/forums/image.php?u=4109&dateline=1198554827&type=profile

[ComputerDude]

Careful people. All this talk about "tree slaying" is starting to make you all sound awfully liberal. ;)
Bunch of tree huggers.:laugh:

[Fish-Bait]

Them busted pines don't make good poles either...

[Chichiguita]

The remaining "damaged" trees are not good for lumber. The chance the grain inside the trees that are damaged are pulled and split are greater. The best use for them would be to use them as paperwood for converting into of course paper... Only problem is the trees are bought by the ton. The damaged trees have lost their moisture and are pretty darn light. So, take a tree that weighs 1500 pounds, or using the same effort fuel manpower etc take a similar sized tree that weighs only a third of the green tree... This would take three times the effort to make the same money...
The incentive then is to leave the damaged tree and take the heavier tree.
Plus there is a big tax break for the damaged trees on forested lands so the land owner got paid for them in essence already... Maybe even stretched the loss over the course of a few years...
Brings a tear to my eyes when someone takes an interest in tree slaying... Want to come watch me kill a tree? For money even???:kekeke: Just kidding... I have taken a few trees out that the home owners were afraid of. I tell them it survived Katrina it should be able to weather anything else i it looks healthy. But being able to sleep peacefully at night and having peace of mind are worth my efforts if that is the way they want to go... ;)
Take a look at my profile pic of me trimming back an oak by a customer's house...

Wait here it is http://www.myhattiesburg.com/forums/image.php?u=4109&dateline=1198554827&type=profile

Yikes!

I have a really good friend whose hubby (they are both good friends) was injured badly while trimming a big branch...He was on a ladder--not a cherry picker. The branch was bowed (sp) some how and and when he cut through it with the chain saw the "energy" caused it to whap him. He was impailed be part of it...ugh...what a terribly recovery that was...He is all better now and is looking forward to the next big bonfire when he will send the remainder of that tree heavenward (...after he pees on it (his words)...:-D

[Chichiguita]

Careful people. All this talk about "tree slaying" is starting to make you all sound awfully liberal. ;)
Bunch of tree huggers.:laugh:


Nuttin wrong with a little tree love every once in a while...

[ComputerDude]

Nuttin wrong with a little tree love every once in a while...
Gotta watch the sap though. Most uncomfortable in those "lovin" areas. ;):laugh:

[Chichiguita]

:smt009Gotta watch the sap though. Most uncomfortable in those "lovin" areas. ;):laugh:

:oops::smt009didnt mean it that way:kekeke:

[Fish-Bait]

I love me some White Oak bein' sawed on the on the 7 ft. Mcdonough Bandmill then kicked out on the cant pan then transferred over to the Horizontal thin kerf and sawed into some fine grade stuff all the time smellin' that wet sawdust....man, just can't get that out of my blood...on down to the trimmer line, end trimmed and quick graded on up through the sorter down through the tipple then when the bay is full on down the line to the air gap stacker and still smellin' that wet sawdust smell.....then onto the drying....eventually maybe meetin' up with the planer and possible ripsaw...now smellin' the dry sawdust......and finally onto the trim you may see around your ceiling......gotta' love you some saw millin'...

Fish-Bait.

[Fish-Bait]

I left out the part about the flitches havin' to be edged....dang it.

[Conveyor Belt]

I love me some White Oak bein' sawed on the on the 7 ft. Mcdonough Bandmill then kicked out on the cant pan then transferred over to the Horizontal thin kerf and sawed into some fine grade stuff all the time smellin' that wet sawdust....man, just can't get that out of my blood...on down to the trimmer line, end trimmed and quick graded on up through the sorter down through the tipple then when the bay is full on down the line to the air gap stacker and still smellin' that wet sawdust smell.....then onto the drying....eventually maybe meetin' up with the planer and possible ripsaw...now smellin' the dry sawdust......and finally onto the trim you may see around your ceiling......gotta' love you some saw millin'...

Fish-Bait.

I think I speak for the majority when I say, WTF???

[Conveyor Belt]

Katrina damaged EVERY tree around here. It makes me sad that my son will grow up looking at a different tree line than I did. I still love our trees, but they just look kinda sad now...

[Fish-Bait]

I think I speak for the majority when I say, WTF???

You prolly do. But to simplify. That's how lumber is made.

[Conveyor Belt]

You prolly do. But to simplify. That's how lumber is made.

While we're kinda on the subject, lemme ask you a question...

Why do they constantly spray down the cut pines at Richton tie and timber by the Bouie river? I never really understood that.

[Dixie Tree Slayer]

While we're kinda on the subject, lemme ask you a question...

Why do they constantly spray down the cut pines at Richton tie and timber by the Bouie river? I never really understood that.If you are referring to water being sprinkled on the trees on the yard it is because they will not be used or some time and the water helps to preserve them. If you ever watch often times the water doesn't cover the full length of some of them and when the knuckleboom loader grabs them the tree will fall apart right where the water stopped on the log... meaning the dry part just rotted right off... I have even seen some folks with the small mills take and put their logs in a pond and leave them for a year or more... Then they stink to high heaven. But that is another story...

[Fish-Bait]

That stink is that smell I am talking about. Too some folks that stink is $$$$$$$.
Also, when sawmillin' it helps if the log is wet. It cuts down on saw friction and knife fricition and the end result is a better or smoother surface that you can cut faster and a better chip from the left over slabs and waste. When plywood is made the blocks (8-10ft. long logs) are actually soaked it hot water so the veneer is easily cut while the block rotates. Moral of the story is that moisture=preservation of log/easier production in the mill.

[ComputerDude]

It now looks as if they're working through the trees from Moss Lane towards the clearing they did off Old Richton. Is this all related?

[Bluesman]

That stink is that smell I am talking about. Too some folks that stink is $$$$$$$.
Also, when sawmillin' it helps if the log is wet. It cuts down on saw friction and knife fricition and the end result is a better or smoother surface that you can cut faster and a better chip from the left over slabs and waste. When plywood is made the blocks (8-10ft. long logs) are actually soaked it hot water so the veneer is easily cut while the block rotates. Moral of the story is that moisture=preservation of log/easier production in the mill.
One of the main ways the water preserves the logs is it prevents blue mold. Blue mold does nothing to the integrity of the wood but it isn't very pretty and consumers will reject it thinking something is wrong with it. If wood gets the blue mold in it most of the time they will just use it for chipping wood.

[Fish-Bait]

One of the main ways the water preserves the logs is it prevents blue mold. Blue mold does nothing to the integrity of the wood but it isn't very pretty and consumers will reject it thinking something is wrong with it. If wood gets the blue mold in it most of the time they will just use it for chipping wood.

You ought to see the pink mold....ooooh lawd...