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Conveyor Belt
01-08-2008, 02:09 AM
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/civilrights/
“Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act,” Mrs. Clinton said when asked about Mr. Obama’s rejoinder by Fox’s Major Garrett after her speech in Dover. “It took a president to get it done.”
Wow... nothing like discounting Martin Luther King Jr.'s role in civil rights to earn some voters.
ComputerDude
01-08-2008, 07:38 AM
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/civilrights/
Wow... nothing like discounting Martin Luther King Jr.'s role in civil rights to earn some voters.
How did she discount his role? She's right in saying that no matter how great the speech was, nothing would have changed until somebody actually in charge made the change.
Isn't that what King wanted?
dollfus46
01-08-2008, 08:02 AM
How did she discount his role? She's right in saying that no matter how great the speech was, nothing would have changed until somebody actually in charge made the change.
Isn't that what King wanted?
I got soooo confused. Between CD and CB. Heck I thought CB was having a debate with himself. Old age is hell:smt118
Speaking of black people, is Obama black? I thought his dad was Middle East and his mom was white. Where did I get confused?
onlyme
01-08-2008, 10:04 AM
Clinton is very much on the verge of coming apart and showing the world the "real" Hillary that we've heard about...the lamp throwing, cursing, temper tantrum Hillary that feels as though she is entitled to this nomination and that Obama is stepping "out of turn."
I hope he crushes her today.
I think she already lost everything with her "emotional moment". I cannot vote for someone who can't even hold up during campaigning.
Dixie Tree Slayer
01-08-2008, 10:17 AM
Clinton is very much on the verge of coming apart and showing the world the "real" Hillary that we've heard about...the lamp throwing, cursing, temper tantrum Hillary that feels as though she is entitled to this nomination and that Obama is stepping "out of turn."
I hope he crushes her today.
I think she already lost everything with her "emotional moment". I cannot vote for someone who can't even hold up during campaigning.
Sometimes life really is worth living when you get to see true colors being flown...
jkspatty
01-08-2008, 10:22 AM
I thought she was catching hell for being "unemotional" & "icy" just a few weeks ago. Now she's too emotional?
onlyme
01-08-2008, 10:35 AM
I thought she was catching hell for being "unemotional" & "icy" just a few weeks ago. Now she's too emotional?
She didn't catch hell from me for being icy. As a female you can't win the presidency if you aren't a witch with a B. Condoleeza didn't climb up the ladder by being Mother Teresa either. I have always had doubts about a female US president simply because she will most likely not be respected anywhere in the Middle East and other countries where women are considered inferior to men. Catching her choking up during campaigning does not help to promote the picture of a strong leader.
jkspatty
01-08-2008, 10:47 AM
She didn't catch hell from me for being icy. As a female you can't win the presidency if you aren't a witch with a B. Condoleeza didn't climb up the ladder by being Mother Teresa either. I have always had doubts about a female US president simply because she will most likely not be respected anywhere in the Middle East and other countries where women are considered inferior to men. Catching her choking up during campaigning does not help to promote the picture of a strong leader.
Bush "choked up" during a televised address shortly after 911. A strong leader still has human feelings and emotions. If we say a female president won't be respected in the middle east, so don't elect one, are we not playing right into their misogynistic beliefs? I don't give a sh*t what the middle east thinks personally. Many Americans (male & female)hold these same beliefs about women, they just express them more covertly than muslims. I truly think that this is the core reason that Hillary Clinton is so disliked by some people.
Dixie Tree Slayer
01-08-2008, 11:23 AM
She didn't catch hell from me for being icy. As a female you can't win the presidency if you aren't a witch with a B. Condoleeza didn't climb up the ladder by being Mother Teresa either. I have always had doubts about a female US president simply because she will most likely not be respected anywhere in the Middle East and other countries where women are considered inferior to men. Catching her choking up during campaigning does not help to promote the picture of a strong leader.I remember the eighties and Margaret Thatcher the Prime Minister of Great Britain. She was an awesome leader. A world leader who no one thought less of because she was a woman. I have no qualms with a female in the lead role as long as it is the right female... Sadly I am in doubt as to if we have any male or female that is right for the job...
onlyme
01-08-2008, 12:11 PM
Bush "choked up" during a televised address shortly after 911. A strong leader still has human feelings and emotions. If we say a female president won't be respected in the middle east, so don't elect one, are we not playing right into their misogynistic beliefs? I don't give a sh*t what the middle east thinks personally. Many Americans (male & female)hold these same beliefs about women, they just express them more covertly than muslims. I truly think that this is the core reason that Hillary Clinton is so disliked by some people.
There is a slight difference between choking up after a terror attack and choking up after a long day at work where nothing out of the ordinary has happened ( and that comes from someone who has not much sympathy for the current president ). If you want to be leader of one, if not the, most powerful country in the world you better have yourself under control. I liked Howard Dean four years ago until he hollered like a cowboy. That is not the behavior I expect from someone who wants to be president of the USA. Yeltsin was someone who showed the world how "approachable and human" he was. The world now remembers him as a party-hopping, vodka-swigging dancing bear.
dreamhippy
01-14-2008, 12:17 AM
She is still obviously an Establishment politician:
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Gingrich_Praises_Hillary/2008/01/13/64000.html?s=al&promo_code=42E1-1
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