Who would you vote for?

[virgo]

As of today, Feb. 12, 2008:

Who would you vote for in the presidential election, if it were held today?

If you select "other" this person must still be in the running.

[SoMissTV]

I voted for Pat Buchanan.

http://www.uncov.com/assets/2007/6/25/hanging_chad.jpg

[aaron]

I kind of like Huckabee, but it's all the same old same old. They are all backed by big interest groups, and we'll get nothing done over the next 4 years.

[CircusRide]

I'm not voting. I've made that decision and I'm sticking with it.
The MS electoral vote will be republican anyway.
I refuse to accept this bunch of losers as the best we can offer for the presidential spot. I can't vote for any of them.

[aaron]

I love how everyone I hear justifies McCain by saying, "He's better than the two Democratic candidates".

[Fish-Bait]

rp.

[dollfus46]

I love how everyone I hear justifies McCain by saying, "He's better than the two Democratic candidates".
Ligitimate reason for voting for him when you are down to the bottom of the barrel. It's called voting against the other candidate. Done by millions of voters every election. Helluva lot better than voting for someone because they are charasmatic.
Definintion of "He's better......" One whom you can agree on more points than anyone else.
What's the problem. At least they are looking at what the candidates stand for and not if he/she is pretty/handsome, or u-glee. Or sexy or charasmatic, or black or female.
To a conservative there's a world of difference in a liberal democrat and a liberal Republican.

[58ford]

Ted Nugent

[JMC]

I'll be voting Republican which means, I'll be voting for McCain.

Was he my first choice for a republican candidate? No

Will I shudder to the side and not cast a vote at all because of that? Hell no.

It's time get over the hurt feelings and move forward with what we have.

[virgo]

I love how everyone I hear justifies McCain by saying, "He's better than the two Democratic candidates".

It's not really about justifying him. As of right now, he is all the Republicans have. If you are a Republican, will you either vote for him or not vote?

[onlyme]

I just got the newest Time magazine and found this article interesting:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1711099,00.html
an excerpt:
>>But a case can also be made that it doesn't matter who's in charge. A study of political leadership and economic growth around the world by economists Ben Jones of Northwestern University and Ben Olken of Harvard found that changes at the top made a big difference--but only in dictatorships.<<
True, isn't it? No matter who becomes president, he/she will not be able to do everything he/she wants simply because there are house and senate who have something to say as well.

[Fire Extinguisher]

I love how everyone I hear justifies McCain by saying, "He's better than the two Democratic candidates".

Is he?

And I must say that I have always voted Rep in all national elections, that includes voting against Taylor..... but this time I may have to go with a third party.

[amanda]

Ligitimate reason for voting for him when you are down to the bottom of the barrel. It's called voting against the other candidate. Done by millions of voters every election. Helluva lot better than voting for someone because they are charasmatic.
Definintion of "He's better......" One whom you can agree on more points than anyone else.
What's the problem. At least they are looking at what the candidates stand for and not if he/she is pretty/handsome, or u-glee. Or sexy or charasmatic, or black or female.
To a conservative there's a world of difference in a liberal democrat and a liberal Republican.


I have to agree to a point, Dollfus, with there being a world of difference between a Liberal Republican and a Liberal Democrat. While both are being very liberal with OUR money - one is giving it to every social program under the sun to aid mainly people living in poverty and the other is giving it to all their rich friends under the giese of worthless contracts, corporate tax breaks, etc.

Can we say MODERATION? I love being a Moderate Democrat - just don't know if I've meet to many Moderate Republicans. And as we are fast realizing - there doesn't appear to be any Conservative Republicans around since Regan left office.

[Conveyor Belt]

I'm not voting. I've made that decision and I'm sticking with it.
The MS electoral vote will be republican anyway.
I refuse to accept this bunch of losers as the best we can offer for the presidential spot. I can't vote for any of them.

I'm wondering if the MS electoral will go republican this time around. A black candidate on the ballot is going to waken up a lot of blacks who normally don't vote in the presidential election.

[CircusRide]

I'm wondering if the MS electoral will go republican this time around. A black candidate on the ballot is going to waken up a lot of blacks who normally don't vote in the presidential election.

It will be Republican and it won't be close. I can guarantee that.
MS is only 38% black and of that percentage, even with a solid turnout, it won't make a big difference.

[aaron]

If it's Obama and McCain, Obama will most likely win, because the Dems will get behind him. All Republicans won't get behind McCain, and some may go independent if there is one. It'll be close like Kerry/Bush though, simply because a lot of people won't want Obama to win.

[SueScribe]

Ligitimate reason for voting for him when you are down to the bottom of the barrel. It's called voting against the other candidate. Done by millions of voters every election.

Yep, you got that right. Voting "against" Al Gore got us what, exactly? And, of course, tons of voters voted "against" John Kerry, largely due to the Swiftboat assault (he missed his chance to bite them back), once again, leaving the country with who? George W. Bush.

Judging from Mr. Bush's unpopularity within his OWN party (only 61% approve of the job he has done as president), and, of course, the overall approval rating he currently holds at 30% - I'd say:

Buyer Beware in November.

Billions upon billions of dollars spent moving a bunch of rocks around in Iraq AND sacrificing the lives of our Troops - and the Iraqi citizenry - and others, and what do we have to show for same?

NOTHING. Other than oil prices at record highs and the national deficit the largest it has been in history and, "my friends" (to quote your candidate) - it's growing by leaps and bounds while our schools, teachers, infrastructure, abysmal healthcare costs, etc. etc. ad infinitm increase EACH day.

So. Go with the Old Guard and the Old Ideas and John McCain's 100-Year War (and "other wars, my friends"), while the people in this country slide further and further into economic oblivion and the revulsion for this nation by our allies continues to increase.

Yep. McCain. He's the One.

[thrillseeker]

At this point in the game, I will be voting for McCain. He at least has experience with WAR and I think he can lead this country.

[SueScribe]

If it's Obama and McCain, Obama will most likely win, because the Dems will get behind him. All Republicans won't get behind McCain, and some may go independent if there is one. It'll be close like Kerry/Bush though, simply because a lot of people won't want Obama to win.

Sue's November prediction:

Obama by a LANDSLIDE. McCain might - just might - carry a dozen states, but . . he'll likely lose Arizona.

The dew is off the National Rose. There are too many people who are sick and tired of being sick and tired of the way this country has been managed for years.

A close associate of mine, a successful professional, put it best a few weeks ago. He's 31, and told me:

"I barely remember Ronald Reagan. My entire adult, political life has been Bush/Clinton/Bush . . and now," he spat, "ANOTHER Clinton? I don't think so."

He's voting Obama. He's a white male, and extremely proud of his choice.

Sue

[SueScribe]

I'll be voting Republican which means, I'll be voting for McCain.
. . .

It's time get over the hurt feelings and move forward with what we have.

Move forward? Heaven help us.

Are you draft age, by chance? Mr. McCain's 100 year war in Iraq and his plans for "other wars" will require the return of the DRAFT. There are just so many soldiers to spread around, just so many tours one man or woman can endure. So. Keep an ear to the ground if your choice wins the election. The next sound you'll hear is:

The Draft Is Back.

[EricStratton]

Party line voting makes me want to vomit.....I don't won't to vote "against" somebody.....I want a frikin candidate for whom I am proud and comfortable to vote! John McCain looks like he's about to pop a blood vessel everytime he talks....I don't feel comfortable with him or his plastic wife around the "football"......I want a candidate to get us out of this travesty of a war....I don't know if any of them, except Ron Paul (who isn't gonna win), have the balls to do it, but Obama is the only one really leaning that way....However, like many, I haven't seen any substance behind the charisma of Obama.....

[SueScribe]

. . .I want a candidate to get us out of this travesty of a war....I don't know if any of them, except Ron Paul (who isn't gonna win), have the balls to do it, but Obama is the only one really leaning that way....However, like many, I haven't seen any substance behind the charisma of Obama.....

First, let me get this out of the way . . .:attack::smt054:love::smt055:smt057:smt060:smt052 :tongue::hug::musicband . . .

Now. Political science / management 101:

Know when to hold `em, know when to fold `em, and - most importantly-
don't play your hand until the RIGHT moment comes. He's getting a little more specific as he nears the nomination. Why give the RNC, McCain, Rush, Karl "Baby Face" Rove, or any other potential opponent a piece of the platform/plan until you absolutely HAVE to do it? All that does is generate a pee-peeing contest prematurely.

Obama is playing it like a smart, smart player.

Watch for Coming Events.

SS

[SueScribe]

. . . dimmit, dinner's ready and I'm hungry. But, if I leave . . will Stratton be gone when I get back *sigh*

I gotta eat. Got To.

[Kitty]

On The View earlier this week, Barbara Walters talked about the possibility of a Clinton-Obama ticket, with Obama as the VP candidate.

Her rationale was Obama's youth, in that he could run again in four or eight years.

She said the reverse (an Obama-Clinton ticket, with Clinton as the VP candidate) would NEVER happen.

[dreamhippy]

Ron Paul is the only one worthy of our vote and so will be the only one I will vote for. :) As my wife can verify, it is okay to disagree with me as long as you do not mind being wrong. :)

[mspolitics82]

Sue Dear.....are there any Republicans national, state or local that you actually like or respect ?

[amanda]

Sue Dear.....are there any Republicans national, state or local that you actually like or respect ?

We'll I know we both had held out hope that Chuck Hagel would run. He's a Republican I would vote for. :smt023

[virgo]

To be quite honest with everyone, there is not one person running who knocks my socks off. It's really unfortunate. :(

[aaron]

That's going to be the problem with this election, it really will be the lesser of two evils. Obama isn't a bad guy, I just don't see enough of a history to really get behind him. For the first time though, I've realized that since a few states in America are first in the primaries, they decide whether some of the other candidates drop out or not. Instead of all primary states voting before people throw in the towel.

[Luvia]

For the first time though, I've realized that since a few states in America are first in the primaries, they decide whether some of the other candidates drop out or not. Instead of all primary states voting before people throw in the towel.

Hard to wrap my brain around that myself.

[SueScribe]

Sue Dear.....are there any Republicans national, state or local that you actually like or respect ?

First, don't call me "Sue Dear", it's insulting and transparently smarmy. I was called down for calling someone "darlin'" - you follow the lead.

To answer your question about Republicans I respect? Yes. Several of whom I know personally, and a few - Chuch Hagel, John Warner, John McCain, and . . a couple more I can't quite remember right now.

There is, however, a difference between respect and like - personally - and ideaologies with which I agree. That, "Ms Poli Dear", is the problem in this nation now. The GOP has made our political process a war between the parties, a divisive, hate-filled vitriolic contest of Who Is Right and Who is Wrong and Who is Moral and Who is Not and frankly -

It disgusts the hell out of me. Divide and conquer - ALL of us. What a lovely way to wrap a ribbon around something called The UNITED States of America.

[Comments 2]

I'm wondering if the MS electoral will go republican this time around. A black candidate on the ballot is going to waken up a lot of blacks who normally don't vote in the presidential election.

And isn't this a sad situation....not interested until the "right" color appears. Just like Opra, not involved in politics until a black man is a candidate.

[Baloo]

I still think that every single vote should count, that voters should have to display a government issued ID and that this "delegate" voting process should be abolished.

That being said, I think that we are in for another scary 4 years of whacked, messed up government.

I think that an ammendment needs to be added to the constitution prohibiting government spending in excess of government income, that the IRS laws as they stand should be abolished, that a 10% flat income tax - with no loop holes, deductions, EIC's or any other way of out paying the flat 10%.

I think that earmarks should be abolished.

I think that Americans as a whole should do more to improve their cities, neighborhoods and communities through volunteer work and service work.

I think that all people on welfare should have to be drug tested. I think that there should be a cap on welfare to not extend benefits to able bodied recipients for greater than 5 years in a lifetime.

I think the governement should not give money or benefits to ileagal aliens. I do not think that immigrants should be given huge business grants or be allowed to operate businesses tax free.

I want a canidate who would support all of those things and I just don't see it in any of them. I guess that I will just have to get my running shoes on...

[dollfus46]

I still think that every single vote should count, that voters should have to display a government issued ID and that this "delegate" voting process should be abolished.

That being said, I think that we are in for another scary 4 years of whacked, messed up government.

I think that an ammendment needs to be added to the constitution prohibiting government spending in excess of government income, that the IRS laws as they stand should be abolished, that a 10% flat income tax - with no loop holes, deductions, EIC's or any other way of out paying the flat 10%.

I think that earmarks should be abolished.

I think that Americans as a whole should do more to improve their cities, neighborhoods and communities through volunteer work and service work.

I think that all people on welfare should have to be drug tested. I think that there should be a cap on welfare to not extend benefits to able bodied recipients for greater than 5 years in a lifetime.

I think the governement should not give money or benefits to ileagal aliens. I do not think that immigrants should be given huge business grants or be allowed to operate businesses tax free.

I want a canidate who would support all of those things and I just don't see it in any of them. I guess that I will just have to get my running shoes on...
I like the way you think. We could make beautiful music together.:kekeke: You'll get a bill that says we can't spend more than we take in about the same time you get one that sets term limits.:bowrofl:

[dreamhippy]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56441

An interesting take on the three main candidates.

[Scarlett O'Hara]

I heard on the news today that C. Rice may be McCain's running mate................Wouldn't that be interesting????

[SueScribe]

I heard on the news today that C. Rice may be McCain's running mate................Wouldn't that be interesting????

I think it would be For Whom The Bells Didn't Toll. Condeleeza Lies-A-Lot paired up with McCain. WHAT a disaster. Couldn't WAIT for the first VP debate:

"Miz Rice, what did you imagine might happen when you read that PDB with the title `Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S.' ?"

"Miz Rice, isn't it true that throughout the spring and summer of 2001, numerous intel sources were channeling Intel to YOUR desk that something `BIG' was about to happen in this country, viz-a-viz a terrorist attack?"

Oh, yeah. Bring`er on. I know McCain is a tad warped, but to pick Rice for a running mate? Nah. Even if HE'S that warped, surely someone around him isn't. Maybe Miz McCain (if the Rehab is still working for her).

[SueScribe]

The MS electoral vote will be republican anyway.

Don't count your electoral college chickens until they hatch.

True, isn't it? No matter who becomes president, he/she will not be able to do everything he/she wants simply because there are house and senate who have something to say as well.

Well, if you consider that the Executive Branch will be occupied by a Democrat, and both houses of Congress are in a Democratic majority (and expected to increase), I'd say - we'll see something FINALLY get done that MAY - just MAY - help someone other than everyone who isn't in the top 10% (or even less) of the wage-earning American People and/or who doesn't walk hand-in-hand with Middle East Oil Barons on the one hand and smooze with Israel on the other. (I call it the George W. Bush Reverse-Psychology-Military-Money-Game.) Here ya' are, Israel: 30 Billion in financial aid (which, not-so-coincidentally finances their military) vs. Okey-Dokey, King of Saudi Arabia, we'll be more than happy to sell you 20 billion dollars in bunker-buster missiles. Dubya may have a slick idea: Lock & Load'em Both. Then . . we come in and collect the oil (once the radiation dies down in, oh, 200 years.)

I'm wondering if the MS electoral will go republican this time around. A black candidate on the ballot is going to waken up a lot of blacks who normally don't vote in the presidential election.

Mississippi, for the first time in . . centuries . . will become a Blue State in November, and not just because of the Black vote, either.

It will be Republican and it won't be close. I can guarantee that. MS is only 38% black and of that percentage, even with a solid turnout, it won't make a big difference.

You don't really believe that all White Folk in Mississippi are going to vote Republican, do you? You're right about one thing - it won't be close: Try 8 points.

And isn't this a sad situation....not interested until the "right" color appears. Just like Opra, not involved in politics until a black man is a candidate.

Have you considered that perhaps the Black community have become somewhat jaded over the political process, particularly for the past 7-plus years and before that, from Reagan through Bush I? What if the Black community (and a substantial number of the non-Black community) in Mississippi finally see a light at the end of a tunnel, whether the candidate is Obama or Clinton? Reckon there could possibly be another, less-racist alternative answer than . . Oprah?

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