View Full Version : Romney Endorses McCain
lamarrebel
02-14-2008, 03:33 PM
Just concluded on Fox News. Another blow for Huckabee :(
hendrixfreak70
02-14-2008, 03:40 PM
Who in here is surprised?
Conveyor Belt
02-14-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm a little surprised... I didn't know who he'd support, but I just don't understand why the party is bowing to McCain like they are.
This has the markings of the Dole defeat all over again.
McCain cannot win.
hendrixfreak70
02-14-2008, 03:47 PM
I think it just goes to show that honestly there are not that many 'conservatives' left. Obviously McCain is a moderate/liberal.
fuzzis
02-14-2008, 03:49 PM
Huckabee cannot win either. Republicans are screwed either way they go.
dollfus46
02-14-2008, 03:51 PM
I'm a little surprised... I didn't know who he'd support, but I just don't understand why the party is bowing to McCain like they are.
This has the markings of the Dole defeat all over again.
McCain cannot win.
There are some pretty good polls out that dispute you.
dollfus46
02-14-2008, 03:53 PM
Huckabee cannot win either. Republicans are screwed either way they go.
I think you're right fuzzis. Maybe you should stay home and not waste time voting in November. It's a slam dunk anyway.:smt102
aaron
02-14-2008, 03:55 PM
They will all endorse McCain. Why? Again, no true Republican wants Obama to win. They find themselves between McCain and a hard place.
fuzzis
02-14-2008, 03:56 PM
I think you're right fuzzis. Maybe you should stay home and not waste time voting in November. It's a slam dunk anyway.:smt102
I'm not leaving anything to chance. :bowrofl:
EricStratton
02-14-2008, 04:08 PM
The Romney endorsement makes me like McCain even less....
lamarrebel
02-14-2008, 04:18 PM
Well flip flop quitter Mitt after masquerading as a true conservative during his run, not runs to endorse the most liberal candidate in the race. Nice to know his true colors and that we didn't have to learn of same AFTER he was elected.
Conveyor Belt
02-14-2008, 04:19 PM
Well flip flop quitter Mitt after masquerading as a true conservative during his run, not runs to endorse the most liberal candidate in the race. Nice to know his true colors and that we didn't have to learn of same AFTER he was elected.
You kinda lost me there after quitter Mitt...
CircusRide
02-14-2008, 05:00 PM
Just think.........McCain lost to Bush.
dollfus46
02-14-2008, 06:16 PM
Just think.........McCain lost to Bush.
It wasn't his time. I believe that. I believe in destiny. I can't explain it any other way.:smt102
dollfus46
02-14-2008, 06:23 PM
Well flip flop quitter Mitt after masquerading as a true conservative during his run, not runs to endorse the most liberal candidate in the race. Nice to know his true colors and that we didn't have to learn of same AFTER he was elected.
Are you talking about Mitt Conme? That's hardly an accurate assessment of the situation. As a politician, he gives not a tinker's dayum about McCain. He's looking out after numero uno and we don't know what he got for his endorsement. How could throwing his support to Huckleberry help him?
Kitty
02-14-2008, 07:46 PM
The Republicans are scrambling to gain some sense of unity while the Democrats are divided between Clinton and Obama.
I believe it was James Carville who said today that if Clinton doesn't win either Texas or Ohio, she's finished.
I think it's likely many of the "conservative Republicans" will stay at home in November and not vote for McCain.
N40th
02-14-2008, 09:06 PM
This makes me like Mitt Romney all the more.
Despite the complete splitting of the conservative vote early on, it finally came down to a 'moderate' Republican, a 'moderate'-but-everyone-thinks-conservative guy, and a guy running on a solid conservative platform.
Huckabee hasn't had a shot in a long time, and his remaining in the race served only to screw up the conservative vote enough to give McCain the nod. (I don't understand why so many people believe in the rather singular notion that Huckabee is conservative, but whatever.)
In other words, his remaining in the race only hurt Romney at the time, and given that Romney was the only person Huckabee was attacking it wasn't too great a leap to conclude that there was, if not a direct alliance, at least an alliance of sorts against Romney. Hence Romney's departure when it became clear that he would and could only be outmaneuvered by the McCain/Huckabee alliance (e.g. the first Super Tuesday caucus).
Had Huckabee been smart, he'd have bowed out soon after Romney, and kissed McCain's ass for a spot in the administration somewhere. But Huckabee's not smart, and his astonishing ego is now on full display. Now that he is the man who brought about the final defeat of conservatism in the 2008 election cycle, he now soldiers on in full denial of the mathematical realities, presumably hoping to carry enough delegate clout at the end to have some say.
But Romney's maneuver, if perplexing on its face, is actually a rather beautiful jab in Huckabee's blank eyes. By pledging his delegates to McCain, he has put the nail in the coffin of Huckabee's chances of anything worthwhile.
While Romney would never phrase it this way, the maneuver serves as a big "up yours" to the guy who shot him down.
While I think I miss Fred "I Owe You Nothing" Thompson the most, a smart and biting maneuver like that makes me miss Romney quite a bit, too.
dollfus46
02-14-2008, 10:42 PM
This makes me like Mitt Romney all the more.
Despite the complete splitting of the conservative vote early on, it finally came down to a 'moderate' Republican, a 'moderate'-but-everyone-thinks-conservative guy, and a guy running on a solid conservative platform.
Huckabee hasn't had a shot in a long time, and his remaining in the race served only to screw up the conservative vote enough to give McCain the nod. (I don't understand why so many people believe in the rather singular notion that Huckabee is conservative, but whatever.)
In other words, his remaining in the race only hurt Romney at the time, and given that Romney was the only person Huckabee was attacking it wasn't too great a leap to conclude that there was, if not a direct alliance, at least an alliance of sorts against Romney. Hence Romney's departure when it became clear that he would and could only be outmaneuvered by the McCain/Huckabee alliance (e.g. the first Super Tuesday caucus).
Had Huckabee been smart, he'd have bowed out soon after Romney, and kissed McCain's ass for a spot in the administration somewhere. But Huckabee's not smart, and his astonishing ego is now on full display. Now that he is the man who brought about the final defeat of conservatism in the 2008 election cycle, he now soldiers on in full denial of the mathematical realities, presumably hoping to carry enough delegate clout at the end to have some say.
But Romney's maneuver, if perplexing on its face, is actually a rather beautiful jab in Huckabee's blank eyes. By pledging his delegates to McCain, he has put the nail in the coffin of Huckabee's chances of anything worthwhile.
While Romney would never phrase it this way, the maneuver serves as a big "up yours" to the guy who shot him down.
While I think I miss Fred "I Owe You Nothing" Thompson the most, a smart and biting maneuver like that makes me miss Romney quite a bit, too.
The problem here is that Conme's delegates are released. They can vote for whomever they choose. It they think Huckleberry is the more conservative they can vote for him. And he's entitled to stay in the race. Nothing unamerican about that. He can also get concessions for his delegates at the convention that might be to conservatives' liking.
dreamhippy
02-14-2008, 11:09 PM
I never much cared for Might Robme. His endorsement matters little to me.
dollfus46
02-14-2008, 11:20 PM
The Republicans are scrambling to gain some sense of unity while the Democrats are divided between Clinton and Obama.
I believe it was James Carville who said today that if Clinton doesn't win either Texas or Ohio, she's finished.
I think it's likely many of the "conservative Republicans" will stay at home in November and not vote for McCain.
That's would really be smart. Be like voting Democrat from the comfort of your den. I'm not looking forward to another Democrat in the White House with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. :zelfmoordObama has already spent a trillion tax dollars and he hasn't even been elected yet.
dreamhippy
02-14-2008, 11:58 PM
Yeah, but two years later, we`d get both houses of Congress back as a result of the slippery economic slope that Bush allowed us to get on, and the fact that Democrat tax-the-rich and spend-like-crazy policies cannot cure these types of problems and are likely to cause things to get worse.
Maybe then the Republicans would field some true Conservatives like former New Mexico Governor, Gary Johnson. :)
dollfus46
02-15-2008, 07:18 AM
Yeah, but two years later, we`d get both houses of Congress back as a result of the slippery economic slope that Bush allowed us to get on, and the fact that Democrat tax-the-rich and spend-like-crazy policies cannot cure these types of problems and are likely to cause things to get worse.
Maybe then the Republicans would field some true Conservatives like former New Mexico Governor, Gary Johnson. :)
How in the world did New Mexico come up with a Governor with an American name?:kekeke: That's like NJ having a governor who's name doesn't end in o or o-n-e. :bowrofl:
SueScribe
02-15-2008, 10:33 AM
It wasn't his time. I believe that. I believe in destiny. I can't explain it any other way.:smt102
It wasn't his time then, when he was eight years younger, and it ain't his time now. He'll at least have had the chance to try to be president, but that will be as far as he goes. Do you really want a man pushing 80 to take the helm of a country his OWN party has sent into a tailspin?
How could throwing his support to Huckleberry help him?
Mormons are pacifists, Doff. You really think they'll run to the polls and vote for a warmon..er . . guy who wants to wage one for "maybe a hundred years", and ". . more straight talk my friends, we're going to have more wars . . " (Florida speech, two weeks ago.)
That's would really be smart. Be like voting Democrat from the comfort of your den. I'm not looking forward to another Democrat in the White House with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. :zelfmoordObama has already spent a trillion tax dollars and he hasn't even been elected yet.
Well, the one that DID get elected, in 2000 and 2004, has spent trillions on . . what, do you imagine?
Conveyor Belt
02-15-2008, 11:36 AM
Mormons are pacifists, Doff. You really think they'll run to the polls and vote for a warmon..er . . guy who wants to wage one for "maybe a hundred years", and ". . more straight talk my friends, we're going to have more wars . . " (Florida speech, two weeks ago.)
Mormons are also called upon to follow the leadership of their country when it comes to matters of war. Mormons, if drafted, are not to use the name of the church as a way to get out of their duty to their country. There's not a lot of group think when it comes to Mormons, at least the ones I know. They make their own decisions.
The bible and book of mormon are filled with wars. It's part of the religious past and will be part of the religious future. Mormon's recognize this.
lamarrebel
02-15-2008, 11:59 AM
How in the world did New Mexico come up with a Governor with an American name?:kekeke: That's like NJ having a governor who's name doesn't end in o or o-n-e. :bowrofl:
New Mexico's current Governor is Bill Richardson (you might remember him from his short lived Presidential run this year). New Jersey's current Governor is John CorzINE (not one) and a recent predecessor was Christine Todd Whitman.
Back on the endorsement at hand, Huckabee has every right to stay in the race. He is exactly right in saying that the people in Texas, Ohio and other states should have voice in the nomination process -- at least until McCain has the 1191 delegates he needs. Huckabee has spoken passionately about the volunteers who have worked for him, and how he feels he owes it to them to continue to press on.
Quitter Mitt should have simply stayed quiet and let the process work itself out. He would have had plenty of time before the convention to make an endorsement. Now, it simply appears that Mitt is now reverting to the Mitt that was the Governor of Massachusetts rather than the Mitt that ran hard to the right for the Republican nomination this year.
Conveyor Belt
02-15-2008, 12:02 PM
Does anyone else see the slight bit of humor in hubbarrister endorsing Huckabee?
I told you guys Huckabee can't face the facts when they're presented to him.
He's going to have to park the brontosaur back in the garage.
dreamhippy
02-23-2008, 10:42 PM
Both Romney and McCain pretended there was no such thing as the Trans-Texas-Corridor. They both became furious with Ron Paul for mentioning it. I wonder what the people who live there think about it?
http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=231000
dreamhippy
02-23-2008, 10:44 PM
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For all those Texans facing the Trans Texas Corridor
My 70 year old cousin just came by with a petition to sign. We are fighting in any way we can to stop the trans Texas (Rick Perry) corridor. This swath of highway (for those non-Texans) will run from Mexico to Canada through Texas. The 10 acres I live on and my 1/4 interest of acreage next to my land is in the path of the proposed corridor. This land has been in our family for generations. There is a family cemetary which is on property next to ours. My Indian great great grandmother and other family members are buried there. Our land is more than a possession. It is our home. I can not imagine having to live anywhere else. This would wipe out many of the last of the old country families that live here. Where would they go? I do not want to live in or near a city. Our 10 mile distance from the city near us is too close. I am praying for all of my fellow Texans and my family that this is stopped. As someone else said this highway with its lanes for cars, 18 wheelers and trains is only for the wealthy who will prosper from our loss and the transit of drugs from Mexico to Canada and let's not forget the massive convoys of Walmart trucks.
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dreamhippy
02-23-2008, 10:45 PM
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I went down and spoke against it when they had the hearings in our area. That's when I learned that the hearings are just a formality, a required step in the process, to TxDot. They don't mean anything. They don't care what you have to say; they are just required to have the "hearing."
Our farm is also in that big blue line, and I also have strong feelings against it. Those stupid officials who spoke for the corridor actually believed that its purpose was to ease traffic because of the growing population. Its purpose is just that of a corridor, to get trucks back and forth from Mexico to Canada. It will be the giant sucking sound Ross Perot prophecied if it is put into effect, but the sucking sound will be that of ill maintained Mexican trucks flowing through our state, at our expense. And, no, it is not planned to stop at the Texas border. Canada has already posted online the maps of the proposed corridors going all the way up.
dreamhippy
02-23-2008, 10:48 PM
Ron Paul doesn`t like it. I don`t like it, but the New World Order candidates LOVE it.
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http://www.narlo.org/
dreamhippy
02-23-2008, 10:55 PM
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I haven't read all the posts so this may be a repeat.
I saw an official map a few months ago that showed 5 major corridors chopping the country up into pieces. I had a link until my computer crashed. It was an official .gob site that by some fluke, I found on a google search.
the site had information about foreign countries doing the building. Mexico would own the main corridor that cuts thru the midwest all the way to Canada. I don't remember what country or countries would own the others, but you can probably bet that China will own a lot of it. The point that really hit me is that NONE of it would be owned or controlled by the U.S. Foreign countries would be coming in and OWNING enough of this country that they could severely limit our movement in our own country. Even limit owners of large tracks of land from movement on their own land.
TPTB have been covering it up since the beginning. When Ron Paul brought it up in a debate, one of the other candidates stated that Ron Paul was imagining things. That tells me one of 2 things... either the other candidate is in on the coverup or is clueless about what is happening in this country.
dreamhippy
02-23-2008, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spinner http://homesteadingtoday.com/images/kirsch/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?p=2890741#post2890741)
When Ron Paul brought it up in a debate, one of the other candidates stated that Ron Paul was imagining things. That tells me one of 2 things... either the other candidate is in on the coverup or is clueless about what is happening in this country.
That's funny, considering several of the candidates (including some who have now dropped out of the race), are on the committee setting it up. Hillary is one of those, and she's pushing it really hard!
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