Farrakhan Praises Obama as ‘Hope of Entire World’ [Archive]

Pirate_129

02-25-2008, 07:57 AM

CHICAGO — In his first major public address since a cancer crisis, Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said that presidential candidate Barack Obama is the “hope of the entire world” that the U.S. will change for the better. The 74-year-old Farrakhan, former leader of the black Muslim group, never endorsed Obama outright, but spent much of his nearly two-hour speech Sunday to an estimated crowd of 20,000 people praising the Illinois senator.
“This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better,” he said. “This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow. If you look at Barack Obama’s audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed.”

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/25/farrakhan-praises-obama-as-hope-of-entire-world/

Interesting.... Discuss.

Hermione

02-25-2008, 09:01 AM

I suspect O. would've been happier without the support of a notorious racist. Would be like McCain getting support from David Duke. Some friends you just don't need.

hendrixfreak70

02-25-2008, 09:04 AM

The world would be better off without Farrakhan for sure. Anyone remember the million man march? He called Newt Gingrich a 'cracker'. But he can't be racist. For that matter and some of you may hate me for this but the world would be better without Newt too!

ComputerDude

02-25-2008, 09:23 AM

“This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow"Obama's got the Native American and Asian American vote? :smt102:smt103

fuzzis

02-25-2008, 09:36 AM

The Nation of Islam, as far as I can remember, is pretty far from true Islam, and in fact doesn't even practice many of the main tenets of Islam. So, I think that the "muslim" tag on this thread is quite a bit misleading.

Bluesman

02-25-2008, 09:49 AM

Does anyone even take what this clown says (Fairaconartist or whatever his name is)??? He is definitely a moron and I wouldn't want to be associated with him.

Conveyor Belt

02-25-2008, 01:02 PM

dollfus46

02-25-2008, 01:52 PM

If Farakan likes McDonald's or Crescent City, are you going to stop eating at those places because he likes them? What if he's for math education? Is it tainted then?

Why does Farakan's endorsement mean anything? It's not like Obama's out there dropping Farakan's name.

Grasping at straws...

If you don't know the difference in food choice and one's political slant, Racism, :smt105 I can't help you. That's about the dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Either I thought you much brighter than you are, or you think I'm much dumber than I am.

fuzzis

02-25-2008, 01:57 PM

If you don't know the difference in food choice and one's political slant, Racism, :smt105 I can't help you. That's about the dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Either I thought you much brighter than you are, or you think I'm much dumber than I am.

The point of the comparison would be that Farrakahn's endorsement of Obama means just about as much as Farrakahn's endorsement of a particular restaurant...nothing. One is as ridiculous as the other.

dollfus46

02-25-2008, 02:01 PM

The point of the comparison would be that Farrakahn's endorsement of Obama means just about as much as Farrakahn's endorsement of a particular restaurant...nothing. One is as ridiculous as the other.
Thank you for helping my stupid ass comprehend that. I repeat my statement. One does not endorse someone for office who does not share the same views. I don't care if they both like Big Macs. I do care if they both want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth as Farrakahn does. It was a ridiculous comparison in my opinion.

Conveyor Belt

02-25-2008, 02:03 PM

:zelfmoord

Conveyor Belt

02-25-2008, 02:04 PM

So, if Farrakhan said he likes you, Dollfus, it means you want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth?

I'm not following YOUR logic.

hendrixfreak70

02-25-2008, 02:07 PM

hendrixfreak70

02-25-2008, 02:07 PM

Double standard. Crucify one and make excuses for the other.

Conveyor Belt

02-25-2008, 02:10 PM

So if someone wants to put Ron Paul's name on a newsletter and call some folks some mean names HE is guilty of espousing the same views? Once again, if it is good for the goose it is good for the gander. People call Paul a racist, because by proxy someone said some dumb stuff in a newsletter, but Farakhan liking Obama and perhaps vice versa doesn't by proxy make him a racist? C'mon now.

If I recall, the only name on the newsletter is Paul's.

Now, if you're putting out a newsletter with your name on it, aren't you going to want to read it before it gets published? I know I would. If he really didn't know, that leads to feelings of incompetence as opposed to racism.

Kind of the same, but not really. If Farrakhan is writing articles in the Obama newsletter, then, we can agree...

dollfus46

02-25-2008, 02:12 PM

So, if Farrakhan said he likes you, Dollfus, it means you want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth?

I'm not following YOUR logic.
1. I'm not running for office 2. Endorsing is not remotely the same as liking. There are Republican and Dems who like each other but would never "endorse" the other for office. 3. Believe me, he really won't like me at all.:smt118

Conveyor Belt

02-25-2008, 02:13 PM

Okay, Dollfus, for clarity, lets say you were running for office and that Farrakhan endorses you. Does that make you believe all the things he does?

hendrixfreak70

02-25-2008, 02:20 PM

There is only one Obama too.

Luvia

02-25-2008, 02:33 PM

I read that Obama's pastor/spiritual mentor/whatever endorses Farrakhan too...

Obama made a statement trying to distance himself ffrom Farrakhan, but he still attends the church that endorses him.

fuzzis

02-25-2008, 03:01 PM

Thank you for helping my stupid ass comprehend that. I repeat my statement. One does not endorse someone for office who does not share the same views. I don't care if they both like Big Macs. I do care if they both want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth as Farrakahn does. It was a ridiculous comparison in my opinion.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Reach a little further, dollfus, you just might fall over. Endorsements happen for all sorts of reasons. It's really not as cut and dry as you're trying to make it appear. Obama is a hot commodity; of course a has-been like Farrakhan who is looking for some sort of relevancy, any relevancy, is trying to hitch is wagon to that star.

SueScribe

02-25-2008, 03:03 PM

Obama's got the Native American and Asian American vote? :smt102:smt103

Unh-hunh. He does

If Farakan likes McDonald's or Crescent City, are you going to stop eating at those places because he likes them? What if he's for math education? Is it tainted then?

Why does Farakan's endorsement mean anything? It's not like Obama's out there dropping Farakan's name.

Grasping at straws...

CB, I tried to THANK you and the button I pushed came up as a groan, I or someone removed it - THANK goodness.

Grasping at straws is dead-on.

SueScribe

02-25-2008, 03:13 PM

Let's go back to the TOP of this thread and read again:

Farrakhan did not "endorse" Obama. Did not ENDORSE Obama. DID NOT,
not not not not not ENDORSE Obama.

Thank you for helping my stupid ass comprehend that. I repeat my statement. One does not endorse someone for office who does not share the same views. I don't care if they both like Big Macs. I do care if they both want to wipe Jews off the face of the earth as Farrakahn does. It was a ridiculous comparison in my opinion.

See above.

1. I'm not running for office 2. Endorsing is not remotely the same as liking. There are Republican and Dems who like each other but would never "endorse" the other for office. 3. Believe me, he really won't like me at all.:smt118

See above.

I read that Obama's pastor/spiritual mentor/whatever endorses Farrakhan too...

Obama made a statement trying to distance himself ffrom Farrakhan, but he still attends the church that endorses him.

Heaven help us all. So, then, by your means of drawing a straight line into a circle, IF YOU, let's say, attend the same church as a Notorious OUTLAW, who is "endorsed" by that church (in another city, by the way), then YOU are endorsing the OUTLAW, is that it?

So, it's:

All men named Bill are bald,
Joe is bald, but Allen isn't.
Why is Joe bald?

Blockhead

02-25-2008, 03:32 PM

I think the issue is that, if Farrakhan likes him, there must be something wrong with him.

SueScribe

02-25-2008, 03:33 PM

I think the issue is that, if Farrakhan likes him, there must be something wrong with him.

That isn't an "issue", that's a threadbare presumption.

hendrixfreak70

02-25-2008, 03:45 PM

I'm not so much concerned with who endorses him as I am with who he hangs around. Also I am concerned about his liberal views.

Fish-Bait

02-25-2008, 03:49 PM

I'm dizzy again.

dollfus46

02-25-2008, 07:11 PM

Let's go back to the TOP of this thread and read again:

Farrakhan did not "endorse" Obama. Did not ENDORSE Obama. DID NOT,
not not not not not ENDORSE Obama.

See above.

See above.

Heaven help us all. So, then, by your means of drawing a straight line into a circle, IF YOU, let's say, attend the same church as a Notorious OUTLAW, who is "endorsed" by that church (in another city, by the way), then YOU are endorsing the OUTLAW, is that it?

So, it's:

All men named Bill are bald,
Joe is bald, but Allen isn't.
Why is Joe bald?
You're just trying to dazzle us with footwork. Obama Yo Mama and his team are standing on their head to distance themselves from the AntiSemitic Farrakahn. It means something to enough people for them to react this way. Might not mean anything to you. But there are enough people out there who draw the same conclusion as I. I'm pretty sure he did, in fact, endorse Obama. Did he say, "I endorse Obama?" No. Worse. He said something like "Obama is the last great hope of the world." Or something similar.

Luvia

02-25-2008, 07:15 PM

Heaven help us all. So, then, by your means of drawing a straight line into a circle, IF YOU, let's say, attend the same church as a Notorious OUTLAW, who is "endorsed" by that church (in another city, by the way), then YOU are endorsing the OUTLAW, is that it?

Well, it's not just someone who attends the same church--the church leader endorses Farrakhan. Big difference there. I might attend church with some shady characters, but I sure as heck wouldn't go to a church LED by a shady character. Especially since I've also read that this (parentheses mine):

Wright helps keep his (Obama's) priorities straight and his moral compass calibrated.

"What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," Obama said. "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics."

Obama is inspired by this man...who also said Nancy Holloway was just some white girl who was stupid and "gave it up" on a beach...

Naw...I'd be changing churches.

dollfus46

02-25-2008, 07:16 PM

I'm dizzy again.
Heh heh heh. Just go sit in the corner and look cute, Fishbait.:-D

CircusRide

02-25-2008, 10:23 PM

Conveyor Belt

02-25-2008, 11:24 PM

All the Obamanites don't want to discuss the link between his church and Farrakhan.
The Obamanites are like the Ron Paul groupies. They j*** o** to guy like he's a superhero. I just can't understand how people cling to one political candidate and refuse to see any wrong.

What is there to discuss? Does Obama sit on the board of the church? Is Obama the church?

Whenever people started dinging Huckabee for his 6000 year old earth theory, why, you couldn't mention that. Religion was off topic, then. Seems like it's okay to attack someone who's not evangelical, ie Obama and Romney. I still can't believe the ignorance spouted out about Romney by card carrying evangelicals.

Here's how it is, though. We've evaluated the facts and chosen not to let them be a deciding factor in our support for Obama. Problem is, you guys keep throwing it up there and keep getting mad when it doesn't stick. You're trying to stick a round peg in a square hole. That's the mind numbing part of the whole ordeal... this has been going on since 2004 with Obama... seriously. Is this the best you guys have to attack Obama with?

SueScribe

02-25-2008, 11:28 PM

I'm dizzy again.

You stay that way of late.:-D

You're just trying to dazzle us with footwork. Obama Yo Mama and his team . . .

Fair warning, Doff. You keep using that cutsey (sp?) word and I'll start throwing around WAR MONGERING again.

Well, it's not just someone who attends the same church--the church leader endorses Farrakhan. Big difference there. I might attend church with some shady characters, but I sure as heck wouldn't go to a church LED by a shady character. Especially since I've also read that this (parentheses mine):

Obama is inspired by this man...who also said Nancy Holloway was just some white girl who was stupid and "gave it up" on a beach...

Naw...I'd be changing churches.

Who is your "church leader" - THE leader ? Does he/she reside in Hattiesburg, Rome, St. Louis, Atlanta, or just where, pray (pun intended) tell? How would you know who that leader embraces who may not be precisely in line with your local church?

To draw a direct connection between Farrakhan (who does NOT attend the same Chicago church as Obama) and a local Chicago "leader/pastor" whom Obama listens to on occasion, premised upon that self-same pastor's "endorsement" (and you need to provide me the data/link for that, please) is circular illogic that won't fit, not if you live in the Real World.

Sorry.

All the Obamanites don't want to discuss the link between his church and Farrakhan.

It's hopeless. There are folk you can reason with, debate with, and even disagree with, and then? There is a limit to how much time one is willing to waste hollering off a mountain top, just to hear the same echo, over and over again. (I know, FishBait. You're dizzy again.)

Sue

Luvia

02-25-2008, 11:39 PM

Obama has attended his church regularly for 20 years. Here are your links:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=1&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wright_farrakhan/2008/01/14/64332.html

And here's the link to his church's website:

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

CircusRide

02-25-2008, 11:51 PM

What is there to discuss? Does Obama sit on the board of the church? Is Obama the church?

Whenever people started dinging Huckabee for his 6000 year old earth theory, why, you couldn't mention that. Religion was off topic, then. Seems like it's okay to attack someone who's not evangelical, ie Obama and Romney. I still can't believe the ignorance spouted out about Romney by card carrying evangelicals.

Here's how it is, though. We've evaluated the facts and chosen not to let them be a deciding factor in our support for Obama. Problem is, you guys keep throwing it up there and keep getting mad when it doesn't stick. You're trying to stick a round peg in a square hole. That's the mind numbing part of the whole ordeal... this has been going on since 2004 with Obama... seriously. Is this the best you guys have to attack Obama with?

I never discussed Huckleberry. Everybody knew he had no chance. He just didn't have the flock Obama and Paul have.
Obama hasn't had to answer for things yet. I'm just waiting to see if anybody is going to have the balls to buck the mainstream media.

CircusRide

02-25-2008, 11:54 PM

Obamanites.................baaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

Conveyor Belt

02-26-2008, 09:23 AM

I never discussed Huckleberry. Everybody knew he had no chance. He just didn't have the flock Obama and Paul have.
Obama hasn't had to answer for things yet. I'm just waiting to see if anybody is going to have the balls to buck the mainstream media.

I think Huckabee has received more votes that Paul. I'm not fact checking that. I'm sure our neighborhood fact checker will be along shortly and will let me know if I'm wrong...