View Full Version : Who will be the Running Mates?
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 02:53 PM
Will it be Obama/Hillary against McCain/Barbour? McCain/Sanford? McCain/Rice was mentioned today too.
Kitty
02-27-2008, 02:55 PM
Hillary's ego won't allow her to run as Obama's VP.
jojobeans1120
02-27-2008, 02:58 PM
I've stated it before, and again, I'm not sure where I heard it, but I heard that Obama was thinking of Kathleen Sebelius (Governor of Kansas) as his running mate. :smt102
jojobeans1120
02-27-2008, 02:58 PM
McCain might actually have a snowball's chance in hell if he picks Rice. :kekeke:
hendrixfreak70
02-27-2008, 03:02 PM
I think Obama needs to pick Bozo. McCain needs to pick Carrot Top. Hillary needs to pick Waldo. That's what I think of their campaigns.
Mike'sGirl
02-27-2008, 03:13 PM
Hmmm......do you think McCain would pick Huckabee to boost his conservative base?
I think Huckabee would agree to do it.
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Hillary's ego won't allow her to run as Obama's VP.
Perhaps. Who do you think will help Obama the most?
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 03:16 PM
I've stated it before, and again, I'm not sure where I heard it, but I heard that Obama was thinking of Kathleen Sebelius (Governor of Kansas) as his running mate. :smt102
She gave the rebuttle after Bush's State of the Union address, didn't she? I thought she was pretty weak.
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 03:18 PM
I think Obama needs to pick Bozo. McCain needs to pick Carrot Top. Hillary needs to pick Waldo. That's what I think of their campaigns.
Well, their campaigns were somewhat better than Ron Paul's obviously.
jojobeans1120
02-27-2008, 03:18 PM
Hmmm......do you think McCain would pick Huckabee to boost his conservative base?
I think Huckabee would agree to do it.
I don't think Huckabee is gonna be asked to do it. I don't think he'd be a good choice. He's made a joke of himself at this point. Him staying in after it is OBVIOUS that there is NO way in HELL that he can win the nomination? C'mon!
CircusRide
02-27-2008, 03:20 PM
Will it be Obama/Hillary against McCain/Barbour? McCain/Sanford? McCain/Rice was mentioned today too.
I thought Fred Sanford was dead???
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 03:22 PM
Hmmm......do you think McCain would pick Huckabee to boost his conservative base?
I think Huckabee would agree to do it.
Huckabee would take it. I don't think it'll be offered, but I'm a political half-wit. McCain could use a Southerner, and Sanford, Gov. of SC is an up and coming politico. Haley Barbour was a Lobbiest. That may eliminate him. CB says condi is too close to Bush, and he has a point.
hendrixfreak70
02-27-2008, 03:24 PM
Well, their campaigns were somewhat better than Ron Paul's obviously.
With a little help from the corporatocracy, media, and the powers that be. Yes you are correct. Besides, who needs the Constitution.
Mike'sGirl
02-27-2008, 03:25 PM
I agree with you, Dollfus, I don't think McCain would pick Barbour or Rice.
I can't even begin to imagine who Obama would choose.
Kitty
02-27-2008, 03:26 PM
Perhaps. Who do you think will help Obama the most?
Not sure.
:smt102
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 03:26 PM
I thought Fred Sanford was dead???
He is. Terry Sanford, Governor of SC
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 03:28 PM
. Besides, who needs the Constitution.
It's been used as a nice guide by the Liberals. :laugh:
hendrixfreak70
02-27-2008, 03:30 PM
It's been used as a nice guide by the Liberals. :laugh:
You lost me on that one. :smt102
Fish-Bait
02-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Well, their campaigns were somewhat better than Ron Paul's obviously.
The networks shut down RPaul. Hell, they hardly ever let him talk.
damnyank
02-27-2008, 03:52 PM
IMHO, I think the best running mates would be No-Halo and XC9!:smt023
Mike'sGirl
02-27-2008, 03:55 PM
In case you didn't hear, Walton & Johnson's 'Billy Ed Hatfield' announced the other morning that he would turn down the job of VP running mate if the offer is made.
So, you can count him out for sure.
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 05:19 PM
The networks shut down RPaul. Hell, they hardly ever let him talk.
Yep. Pretty much the same with all conservatives: Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, and Brownback.
Conveyor Belt
02-27-2008, 05:24 PM
I don't see anyone running with McCain that will help him defeat Obama.
I don't really see this year as a running mate year. Sometimes they are significant, and this year, I just don't see it. This year, we are going to be voting for President, not President and VP.
dollfus46
02-27-2008, 05:27 PM
I don't see anyone running with McCain that will help him defeat Obama.
I don't really see this year as a running mate year. Sometimes they are significant, and this year, I just don't see it. This year, we are going to be voting for President, not President and VP.
The NYT Bloomberg report survey has McCain winning by 2% over Obama. And remember, the NYT is the oldest most respectible newspaper in the country.:laugh:
PHDPLEASE
02-27-2008, 05:31 PM
Hmmm...Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid would make interesting choices for Hillary, but I don't think Obama wants that much "heat" on his ticket.
As for the GOP...McCain would do well choosing someone with a solid conservative base...Romney maybe??? Hell...tough question!
CircusRide
02-27-2008, 05:51 PM
Obama might go with the Kansas lady gov. or the young Kennedy.
McCain, who knows? Maybe Huckleberry but I doubt it. He needs a young conservative.
Echo Four Bravo
02-27-2008, 07:33 PM
Wouldn't y'all love to see Hillary's face if Obama announced his choice for VP was......................wait for it............................wait for it....................Bill Clinton? :bowrofl:
SoMissTV
02-27-2008, 07:53 PM
Wouldn't y'all love to see Hillary's face if Obama announced his choice for VP was......................wait for it............................wait for it....................Bill Clinton? :bowrofl:
That's currently illegal. The qualifications for vice-president are the same as president (12th Amendment), and the 22nd Amendment prohibits an individual from serving as president for more than two terms.
Echo Four Bravo
02-27-2008, 08:30 PM
That's currently illegal. The qualifications for vice-president are the same as president, and the 22nd Amendment prohibits an individual from serving as president for more than two terms.
Here ya go.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/columns/fl.dorf.goreclinton.08.01/
SoMissTV
02-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Yup, applying the 12th amendment in combination with the 22nd amendment supports the illegality of such an occurrence.
It would go to the Supremes, but I imagine it would skew to disqualification.
Echo Four Bravo
02-27-2008, 08:43 PM
From the article:
The 12th Amendment would allow a Clinton vice-presidency. Its language only bars from the vice-presidency those persons who are "ineligible to the office" of President. Clinton is not ineligible to the office of president, however. He is only disqualified (by the 22nd Amendment) from being elected to that office.
Not that it really matters, it just occurred to me that Hillary would snap and climb to the top floor of the nearest book depository with such an announcement.
SoMissTV
02-27-2008, 08:53 PM
Clinton is not ineligible to the office of president, however. He is only disqualified (by the 22nd Amendment) from being elected to that office.
Right. As Clinton is ineligible to run for the office of president because of the 22nd, he would be ineligible to run for vice-president by association.
I see what you're saying, though. If Bill were the speaker of the house, he could assume the presidency if something were to happen to both the pres and vice-pres without violating the 22nd.
It's a question of in what order the amendments are applied.
IMHO, I think the best running mates would be No-Halo and XC9!:smt023
Yep, that would work, and you, damnyank, could be our spiritual advisor :clap:. Thanks, but people don't want honest, hard working, America proud citizens representing them obviously. No one that seems honest and sincere ever makes it past the first elections. This really is a sad thing to say but it is true of our country. :cry: Dang! Some yanks really are intelligent huh? :kekeke: :bowrofl:
damnyank
02-27-2008, 10:35 PM
Thanks, but people don't want honest, hard working, America proud citizens representing them obviously. No one that seems honest and sincere ever makes it past the first elections. This really is a sad thing to say but it is true of our country. :cry: Dang! Some yanks really are intelligent huh? :kekeke: :bowrofl:
I reallly hope you are including yourself in "some yanks" , as I totally agree with what you said. :wink:
Well duuuhhhh! Of course I know I am one of the smart ones too. Yes I am a part of the someyanks, problem is I am only a half a$$ yank. Don't tell people that though.
No-Halo
02-27-2008, 10:42 PM
Yep, that would work, and you, damnyank, could be our spiritual advisor :clap:. Thanks, but people don't want honest, hard working, America proud citizens representing them obviously. No one that seems honest and sincere ever makes it past the first elections. This really is a sad thing to say but it is true of our country. :cry: Dang! Some yanks really are intelligent huh? :kekeke: :bowrofl:
Ahem, I did.....remember?? :smt118
CircusRide
02-27-2008, 10:44 PM
I think they should let Arnold be nominated for McCain's VP (He's not allowed). Imagine The Terminator as the VP.
Ahem, I did.....remember?? :smt118
You are not really a politician, just a dang good constable/cop. I was speaking about those senators, governors, mayors etc. You know, the people that actually rule our lives. You don't rule our lives, you just enforce what they rule. :kekeke: Get it? :smt102
No-Halo
02-27-2008, 11:47 PM
You are not really a politician, just a dang good constable/cop. I was speaking about those senators, governors, mayors etc. You know, the people that actually rule our lives. You don't rule our lives, you just enforce what they rule. :kekeke: Get it? :smt102
Wheeeew, thanks XC!! :smt118
dollfus46
02-28-2008, 04:03 AM
That's currently illegal. The qualifications for vice-president are the same as president (12th Amendment), and the 22nd Amendment prohibits an individual from serving as president for more than two terms.
Yes, but the concept of Bill being Obama's running mate was funny. Sheeesh. Every party has a pooper, that why we invited you.
dollfus46
02-28-2008, 04:08 AM
I don't see anyone running with McCain that will help him defeat Obama.
I don't really see this year as a running mate year. Sometimes they are significant, and this year, I just don't see it. This year, we are going to be voting for President, not President and VP.
Obama is very beatable. You listen to too much CNN ;) I disagree with you on the importance of a running mate. Too much liberal on the Obama team could send him in the tank, and not enough conservative on McCain's ticket could tank him. But I'm not a good political analyst, I admit
dollfus46
02-28-2008, 04:11 AM
You lost me on that one. :smt102
Sorry. It was rather weak. The liberals use it as a guide to make their own up, as in "living Constitution" as opposed to the original one.
Conveyor Belt
02-28-2008, 07:07 AM
Obama is very beatable. You listen to too much CNN ;) I disagree with you on the importance of a running mate. Too much liberal on the Obama team could send him in the tank, and not enough conservative on McCain's ticket could tank him. But I'm not a good political analyst, I admit
Actually, I don't listen to CNN. I'm forming my own opinion of the situation *gasp*! I read political news slanted from both sides, blogs from both sides and decide on my own what I believe.
Obama is not beatable by any candidate currently fielded by the Republicans... there, is that better?
PHDPLEASE
02-28-2008, 07:54 AM
Actually, I don't listen to CNN. I'm forming my own opinion of the situation *gasp*! I read political news slanted from both sides, blogs from both sides and decide on my own what I believe.
Obama is not beatable by any candidate currently fielded by the Republicans... there, is that better?
With all due respect...yes he his. McCain has enough "left" in him to swing undecided voters. This would be a GREAT bet in vBookie.
Odds: McCain vs. Obama - 1/1
McCain vs. Hillary - 3/2
:smt023
dollfus46
02-28-2008, 09:24 AM
Actually, I don't listen to CNN. I'm forming my own opinion of the situation *gasp*! I read political news slanted from both sides, blogs from both sides and decide on my own what I believe.
Obama is not beatable by any candidate currently fielded by the Republicans... there, is that better?
I think McCain will take Obama and here's why: The country has never gone for a radical liberal before. That's why Hillary tried moving to the center. That's why all liberal Democrats move to the center. Bill Clinton was a perfect example. When the independents get into the booth they'll vote for the more moderate McCain, especially if he has a more conservative, Southern running mate. I think moderate Dems will jump ship too, before it's all over. And if Obama selects a liberal running mate, he's toast. Just how I'm thinking rat now.
mspolitics82
02-28-2008, 03:39 PM
I think McCain will take Obama and here's why: The country has never gone for a radical liberal before. That's why Hillary tried moving to the center. That's why all liberal Democrats move to the center. Bill Clinton was a perfect example. When the independents get into the booth they'll vote for the more moderate McCain, especially if he has a more conservative, Southern running mate. I think moderate Dems will jump ship too, before it's all over. And if Obama selects a liberal running mate, he's toast. Just how I'm thinking rat now.
Yep......did anyone see last night's poll that was shown on Fox News....I cannot remember the guy showing it or the source of his numbers...memory lapse...but the numbers showed that more Dem. voters say that they will jump ship to vote for McCain than Rep. voters say they will jump ship to vote for Obama...so McCain is still a factor...no matter how the media is playing it. Now, conservatives like me don't want McCain to be President, but I can put up with disagreeing with McCain 30% or 40% of the time much better than I can put up disagreeing with Obama or Hillary 90% or more of the time.
Mike'sGirl
02-28-2008, 04:24 PM
Breaking News....
Nader has chosen his running mate.... :smt102
Nader picks Matt Gonzalez as VP candidate
http://wdam.images.worldnow.com/images/static/gfx/pxl_trans.gif
Associated Press - February 28, 2008 12:53 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AP) - Ralph Nader has chosen his running mate for his latest presidential bid: Matt Gonzalez, a former member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.
Nader made the announcement at a news conference.
The Texas-born Gonzalez ran for mayor of San Francisco as a Green Party candidate in 2003 but lost to Gavin Newsom.
jojobeans1120
02-28-2008, 04:26 PM
Oh YAY! :bowrofl:
I can hardly contain myself. :smt105
jojobeans1120
02-28-2008, 04:30 PM
Yep......did anyone see last night's poll that was shown on Fox News....I cannot remember the guy showing it or the source of his numbers...memory lapse...but the numbers showed that more Dem. voters say that they will jump ship to vote for McCain than Rep. voters say they will jump ship to vote for Obama...so McCain is still a factor...no matter how the media is playing it. Now, conservatives like me don't want McCain to be President, but I can put up with disagreeing with McCain 30% or 40% of the time much better than I can put up disagreeing with Obama or Hillary 90% or more of the time.
I find it difficult to simply "settle," ya know. It is hard to swallow the fact that there's no one out there that can unite this country, maintain our safety, protect our borders, rebuild our economy, create jobs, etc. Sure, McCain "says" that he's seen the light , has come around and will represent true conservative values, BUT I'm just not sure if I'm buying into it. :smt102
Conveyor Belt
02-28-2008, 05:27 PM
I think McCain will take Obama and here's why: The country has never gone for a radical liberal before. That's why Hillary tried moving to the center. That's why all liberal Democrats move to the center. Bill Clinton was a perfect example. When the independents get into the booth they'll vote for the more moderate McCain, especially if he has a more conservative, Southern running mate. I think moderate Dems will jump ship too, before it's all over. And if Obama selects a liberal running mate, he's toast. Just how I'm thinking rat now.
But, as you and yours have repeatedly stated, he hasn't SAID anything to indicate that he's far left. He may juke to the right a bit for the campaign... he probably won't, but it's still as possible as Clinton and Clinton juking right.
Still lots of time before Nov...
jojobeans1120
02-28-2008, 05:36 PM
But, as you and yours have repeatedly stated, he hasn't SAID anything to indicate that he's far left. He may juke to the right a bit for the campaign... he probably won't, but it's still as possible as Clinton and Clinton juking right.
Still lots of time before Nov...
Verra verra true!
dollfus46
02-28-2008, 06:46 PM
But, as you and yours have repeatedly stated, he hasn't SAID anything to indicate that he's far left. He may juke to the right a bit for the campaign... he probably won't, but it's still as possible as Clinton and Clinton juking right.
Still lots of time before Nov...
Trust me, He's far left.:-D
mspolitics82
02-28-2008, 06:48 PM
I find it difficult to simply "settle," ya know. It is hard to swallow the fact that there's no one out there that can unite this country, maintain our safety, protect our borders, rebuild our economy, create jobs, etc. Sure, McCain "says" that he's seen the light , has come around and will represent true conservative values, BUT I'm just not sure if I'm buying into it. :smt102
I certainly understand....I too find it difficult to "settle"...but I find it more difficult to NOT VOTE AT ALL, or to vote for someone who I surely know has absolutely zero chance to become President. If I cast my vote to a third tier candidate, then I am helping the guy/gal who I know that I will ALMOST NEVER agree with to become President. So, why would I want to do that? Some may say "It's a matter of principle, I am going to vote for the guy I think is best, even though I know he is not going to get elected." Surely that is everyone's right.....and I have even said that before. BUT.......this election is too important for me to be part of "handing" it to one of the 2 most liberal Senators in this country. It is going to be difficult enough for Republicans to win as it is; the Dems surely don't need help from Republicans who vote for a third party/tier candidate or who stay at home.
Yes, it is will be a very difficult pill for me to swallow...and very difficult to settle....BUT I CANNOT "settle" FOR THE OTHER OPTION, which will be either Pres. Barack Hussein Obama or Pres. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
jojobeans1120
02-28-2008, 07:13 PM
I certainly understand....I too find it difficult to "settle"...but I find it more difficult to NOT VOTE AT ALL, or to vote for someone who I surely know has absolutely zero chance to become President. If I cast my vote to a third tier candidate, then I am helping the guy/gal who I know that I will ALMOST NEVER agree with to become President. So, why would I want to do that? Some may say "It's a matter of principle, I am going to vote for the guy I think is best, even though I know he is not going to get elected." Surely that is everyone's right.....and I have even said that before. BUT.......this election is too important for me to be part of "handing" it to one of the 2 most liberal Senators in this country. It is going to be difficult enough for Republicans to win as it is; the Dems surely don't need help from Republicans who vote for a third party/tier candidate or who stay at home.
Yes, it is will be a very difficult pill for me to swallow...and very difficult to settle....BUT I CANNOT "settle" FOR THE OTHER OPTION, which will be either Pres. Barack Hussein Obama or Pres. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but at the same time, I don't think that McCain is being very upfront and honest with us either. I think that his sudden change of heart is true and that he's honestly going to conform to conservative ideals the way he claims. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it. I just hope that whoever wins this fall will take this country's best interest to heart. We simply cannot afford to keep allowing illegal immigrants to cross our borders unchecked, our economy to sink, etc... :smt086
dreamhippy
02-28-2008, 07:35 PM
The good news is that in the Primary Election, one can vote purely on their conscience and later on in the General Election still support the "lesser-of-two-evils" candidate chosen by their party. The so-called viability of the candidate in the Primary simply is decided by how many are intelligent enough to grasp this basic concept: VOTE FOR WHO YOU LIKE!
mspolitics82
02-28-2008, 07:38 PM
I understand the point you're trying to make, but at the same time, I don't think that McCain is being very upfront and honest with us either. I think that his sudden change of heart is true and that he's honestly going to conform to conservative ideals the way he claims. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it. I just hope that whoever wins this fall will take this country's best interest to heart. We simply cannot afford to keep allowing illegal immigrants to cross our borders unchecked, our economy to sink, etc... :smt086
The truth is that none of the top 4 contenders left standing give a rip about legitimately dealing with solving the illegal immigration fiasco. Closing the border is a good start....but doing that alone will not take the current burdens off the taxpaying "CITIZENS" and LEGAL taxpayers.
dollfus46
02-29-2008, 07:12 AM
I understand the point you're trying to make, but at the same time, I don't think that McCain is being very upfront and honest with us either. I think that his sudden change of heart is true and that he's honestly going to conform to conservative ideals the way he claims. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it. I just hope that whoever wins this fall will take this country's best interest to heart. We simply cannot afford to keep allowing illegal immigrants to cross our borders unchecked, our economy to sink, etc... :smt086
Unfortunately, Jojo, none of them will close our borders, and it totally escapes me. What the hell are they thinking?! Second question: What are we, the people, going to do about it? We can vote every incumbant out, that's what. But we won't. We're merely a larger New Orleans. We have the government we deserve.:smt009
lamarrebel
02-29-2008, 10:37 AM
After Michael Dukakis got drubbed in 1988 after being lambasted as the liberal he was....Bill Clinton took a diametrically different approach in his successful 1992 campaign, but essentially running as a moderate/conservative. He promised middle class tax cuts and "ending welfare as we know it". Two years ago, many of the successful Democratic congressional challengers did much the same thing.
Obama really is saying nothing other than the Iraq war should have never been fought, and Hillary would probably try to emulate her husband's run to the center if she were the nominee.
However, I'm now not completely convinced this country would not elect a true liberal. John Kerry came very close four years ago, and even Dukakis got 46 percent in 1988 (although in the electoral college it was a rout). All I can say is that I certainly hope that such will again not be the case this year!
CUPCAKE
02-29-2008, 10:41 AM
Will it be Obama/Hillary against McCain/Barbour? McCain/Sanford? McCain/Rice was mentioned today too.
The Obama/Hillary ticket is really scary. Lets say that Obama is assassinated early in his presidency and Hillary steps up to the plate. Somewhere down the line she's visiting the Middle East and she, too, is assassinated, her plane crashes and she dies, or she gets so uptight she stresses out and dies of a stroke or heart attack. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi will take the wheel. Then when her ego kills her the President Pro Tempore of the Senate takes charge. My, God, people, that's Robert Byrd! THIS IS A SAD PRESIDENTIAL LINE OF PROGRESSION. I know its all "what if," but in today's world it can't be totally ruled out.
dollfus46
02-29-2008, 07:15 PM
The Obama/Hillary ticket is really scary. Lets say that Obama is assassinated early in his presidency and Hillary steps up to the plate. Somewhere down the line she's visiting the Middle East and she, too, is assassinated, her plane crashes and she dies, or she gets so uptight she stresses out and dies of a stroke or heart attack. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi will take the wheel. Then when her ego kills her the President Pro Tempore of the Senate takes charge. My, God, people, that's Robert Byrd! THIS IS A SAD PRESIDENTIAL LINE OF PROGRESSION. I know its all "what if," but in today's world it can't be totally ruled out.
Sounds like a vbookie bet. I hope we get huge odds.:-D
onlyme
03-01-2008, 08:31 AM
The Obama/Hillary ticket is really scary.
Not going to happen. Hillary will never be content being a vice anything.
dollfus46
03-01-2008, 08:34 AM
Obama is not beatable by any candidate currently fielded by the Republicans... there, is that better?
There are polls out that dispute that. There are polls that agree with you. I think he's very beatable once we get one on one. Hillary isn't out yet. She has a strong lead in Ohio and is within the margin of error in Texas.
dollfus46
03-01-2008, 08:37 AM
Breaking News....
Nader has chosen his running mate.... :smt102
Nader picks Matt Gonzalez as VP candidate
http://wdam.images.worldnow.com/images/static/gfx/pxl_trans.gif
Associated Press - February 28, 2008 12:53 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AP) - Ralph Nader has chosen his running mate for his latest presidential bid: Matt Gonzalez, a former member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.
Nader made the announcement at a news conference.
The Texas-born Gonzalez ran for mayor of San Francisco as a Green Party candidate in 2003 but lost to Gavin Newsom.
:bowrofl::bowrofl: What a maroon!!
dollfus46
03-01-2008, 08:48 AM
I find it difficult to simply "settle," ya know. It is hard to swallow the fact that there's no one out there that can unite this country, maintain our safety, protect our borders, rebuild our economy, create jobs, etc. Sure, McCain "says" that he's seen the light , has come around and will represent true conservative values, BUT I'm just not sure if I'm buying into it. :smt102
When you have candidates like the ones foisted upon us like this, it really is time to panic. The choice, Jojo, is: Do we vote for Obama or Hillary knowing they won't close the border, will tax the living chit out of us to pay for socialized medicine and will pull our troops out of the Middle East, destroying any credibility we have with the world, or do we take a chance and vote for McCain, who promised to keep Bush's tax cuts in place, will defeat the terrorists and be true to our friends who have counted on us, and says he'll close the border. The first two choices are out for me. So it's McCain, a write in, such as Newt Gingrich, or not to vote. I feel it's my responsibility to vote so that those who have died for my freedom to do so would not have died for me to sit on my ass in my den and bitch. I choose to vote against the two Democrat candidates by voting for McCain. There are some things he will do that are conservative. No candidate EVER did everything I liked. George Bush especially. But I still would rather have him than Kerry or Gore. And as a conservative, you would too.:smt023
CUPCAKE
03-01-2008, 02:42 PM
Not going to happen. Hillary will never be content being a vice anything.
Oh, I totally agree with you! I was just "thinking out loud". As VP she wouldn't have as much voice as she did when she was co-president.
dollfus46
03-01-2008, 02:50 PM
It has just come to my attention that our eyes are the same size from birth to death, but that the ears and nose never stop growing. I was just thinking........Poor Obama. By the time he's my age, he'll look like a volkswagon with both doors open.
hburgguy06
03-02-2008, 09:33 PM
I don't think McCain will pick Huckabee, but it's a possibility.....The problem with McCain is.. you just never know... depends on his mood the day he decides... He should pick a Southern Governor though...
dollfus46
03-02-2008, 09:39 PM
I don't think McCain will pick Huckabee, but it's a possibility.....The problem with McCain is.. you just never know... depends on his mood the day he decides... He should pick a Southern Governor though...
The female Senator from Texas, Mary Kate Hutcherson has come up. She'd be a good Southern conservative for sure. The Feinstein woman, on FoxNews today, said that we couldn't have a more qualified female President than Hillary. I choked on my coffee. I can name a few. Elizabeth Dole is ten to one more qualified. Mary Kate Hutcherson is another. Condi Rice a third.
hburgguy06
03-02-2008, 09:42 PM
The name of Palin, female governor of Alaska, has come up also..but i don't know much about her..I'd prefer Huckabee or Barbour....McCain needs someone to counter his old dreary personality
hburgguy06
03-02-2008, 09:43 PM
I can't wait to see who obama picks... that should be interesting.
dreamhippy
03-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I met her at a church flea market in Texas. We were both just customers looking, not church members there. She was in jeans and a blouse. She was a complete delight! Sweet as good Southern Iced Tea!
I hope they don`t pick Barbour for the simple reason that I would much rather have him as my Governor than as McCain`s anything. Besides, others might like him, but I really don`t want the new Governor we`d be getting.
dollfus46
03-02-2008, 09:48 PM
Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I met her at a church flea market in Texas. We were both just customers looking, not church members there. She was in jeans and a blouse. She was a complete delight! Sweet as good Southern Iced Tea!
I hope they don`t pick Barbour for the simple reason that I would much rather have him as my Governor than as McCain`s anything. Besides, others might like him, but I really don`t want the new Governor we`d be getting.
Sorry, Where did I get Mary Kate? Old age is hell.
jojobeans1120
03-05-2008, 05:32 AM
With the democratic race continuing, McCain is going to have to stay in the news some way or another. I look for him to announce his running mate within the next few weeks. I don't have a clue who he's going to pick, but he'd better find someone that's conservative and has youth on their side. Romney isn't a good choice in my opinion. Huckabee isn't even an option, I don't think. Is there anyone, young, with a big name, experience & credibility, that can bring life to the GOP ticket? For him to beat either, Hillary or Obama, he's going to have one hell of a running mate. The other two have the change to make history by becoming the first woman, or the first African American to become president. McCain is just some old, white guy with a anger management problem. How can he hold up against either of these guys? :smt102
dollfus46
03-05-2008, 06:22 AM
With the democratic race continuing, McCain is going to have to stay in the news some way or another. I look for him to announce his running mate within the next few weeks. I don't have a clue who he's going to pick, but he'd better find someone that's conservative and has youth on their side. Romney isn't a good choice in my opinion. Huckabee isn't even an option, I don't think. Is there anyone, young, with a big name, experience & credibility, that can bring life to the GOP ticket? For him to beat either, Hillary or Obama, he's going to have one hell of a running mate. The other two have the change to make history by becoming the first woman, or the first African American to become president. McCain is just some old, white guy with a anger management problem. How can he hold up against either of these guys? :smt102
According to Karl Rove on FoxNews last night, it's doubtful he'll come South. He will carry the South anyway, so that won't help him. I predict he'll come up with someone I've never heard of. But he won't do it anytime soon. He'll use it to tease everyone. But then, again, remember, I'm a political midget as well as a cultural midget. :smt086
dollfus46
03-05-2008, 06:24 AM
I'm telling you, McCain is your next President. According to the (ever changing) polls, he beats Hillary and is within the margin of error on Obama.
mspolitics82
03-05-2008, 07:17 AM
I'm telling you, McCain is your next President. According to the (ever changing) polls, he beats Hillary and is within the margin of error on Obama.
Good to be back with you folks....at least good for me! ( I have been on my back with the flu ---along with most of my family. )
As much as I keep hoping for a "miracle" at the Rep. National Conv., my hopes are beginning to fade in the horizon. I think that McCain can/will beat either of the 2 DEMS, if, and only if:
Republicans get out in large enough numbers on Election Day.
To date, in the primaries, it hasn't happened. Although,
granted, there have been some Repubs who voted on the
Dem. side in the Primary just to try to get their "opponent of
choice" for the Republican candidate. Conservatives/Repubs
cannot stay home (no matter the reason), nor can they cast
a protest vote for a minor candidate----otherwise, the
DEMOCRAT WINS!! :ohnoes:
jojobeans1120
03-05-2008, 07:23 AM
Good to be back with you folks....at least good for me! ( I have been on my back with the flu ---along with most of my family. )
Glad you're back. I hope you're all feeling much better.
jojobeans1120
03-05-2008, 07:25 AM
I'm telling you, McCain is your next President. According to the (ever changing) polls, he beats Hillary and is within the margin of error on Obama.
The polls? The polls showed Obama leading Hillary in Texas by 2 points. He lost by 4. :smt102
I have NO faith in the polls. I think the people that participate in them lie just to throw off the predictions.
dollfus46
03-05-2008, 05:08 PM
The polls? The polls showed Obama leading Hillary in Texas by 2 points. He lost by 4. :smt102
I have NO faith in the polls. I think the people that participate in them lie just to throw off the predictions.
Well, I don't trust exit polls. Rassmussin seems to do a good job, but then those who take the poll HAVE to vote to. Heh heh heh.
goober66
03-05-2008, 10:54 PM
McCain/Powell.
Or McCain/Ventura :-D
dreamhippy
03-05-2008, 11:43 PM
Good to be back with you folks....at least good for me! ( I have been on my back with the flu ---along with most of my family. )
As much as I keep hoping for a "miracle" at the Rep. National Conv., my hopes are beginning to fade in the horizon. I think that McCain can/will beat either of the 2 DEMS, if, and only if:
Republicans get out in large enough numbers on Election Day.
To date, in the primaries, it hasn't happened. Although,
granted, there have been some Repubs who voted on the
Dem. side in the Primary just to try to get their "opponent of
choice" for the Republican candidate. Conservatives/Repubs
cannot stay home (no matter the reason), nor can they cast
a protest vote for a minor candidate----otherwise, the
DEMOCRAT WINS!! :ohnoes:
If you`re right, considering that some of us would rather protest McCain than vote for him, get ready for a Dem to win. My candidate was the only Conservative left after the first couple primaries. He`s still the only one I will be voting for. The party should have have gotten behind him.
mspolitics82
03-06-2008, 07:31 AM
If you`re right, considering that some of us would rather protest McCain than vote for him, get ready for a Dem to win. My candidate was the only Conservative left after the first couple primaries. He`s still the only one I will be voting for. The party should have have gotten behind him.
Respectfully put.
On the other hand, MY CANDIDATE never entered the race, so I have been depressed for a year now; but I cannot bring myself to hand the election to someone (DEM) who I know can never satisfy any facet of conservatism.....and I will really be forcing myself to vote for McCain. But I cannot find any justification within me personally to convince me that I need to vote for a third party guy or stay at home and GIVE the election to a person who has .01 ounces of conservativism; McCain at least has a 84% rating with the American Conservative Union. Now, I know that is the rating of only one conservative group.....but they are a very reputable and sound organization and have been around for a while.
I am a guy who is as strong "protect the border" and "no amnesty" as you will find. With that in mind, voting for McCain will be totally a "puke-evoking" experience for me. BUT....BUT....I know that Bush was not able to get his open border policy/amnesty passed as Pres. and I don't think McCain will either, if he should go in that direction. I will not vote for McCain in Ms. Repub. Primary next week, but, in Nov., I want my vote to keep someone who has no conservative blood at all from leading my country-----if I can do that, then I don't feel that I have wasted my vote, and it will be a vote based on what I believe to be a respectable purpose--- keeping a true LIBERAL out of office. I am still hoping for a miracle of the highest degree at the convention, but, I am prepared to do what I have to do at the polls in November to keep the DEM out of office.
dreamhippy
03-06-2008, 09:02 PM
I appreciate where you are coming from. I respect your point of view even while disagreeing with it. I remember studying the "my country, right or wrong" folks in history. To me, this sounds sort of similar....sort of "my party, right or wrong". I completely understand the desire to remain out of the control of those crazy leftist liberals. My problem is that I have not had the party of my choice even come close to representing me since I have been voting age. For far too many years now they have been sticking us with a candidate that they assure us is the lesser evil compared to the liberal. In fact, the Republican party as a whole is moving apparently to the left. I tend to vote against liberals because of their attempted stealing of Constitutionally guaranteed 2nd Amendment gun rights. Our representatives must represent us. When the Republican Party under Bush actually pushed though Anti-Constitutional legislation, he proved to me to be not the conservative that I had believed him to be when I voted for him. I WANT ALL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO STAND. I am not afraid of the crap they are trying to scare us out of our rights with. My candidate ran this time. Someone who represents my views. Someone who would restore the primacy and supremacy of the US Constitution as the supreme law of the land. His name is Ron Paul. I cannot help that my party followed the media like rats following the Pied Piper. I cannot stand John McCain! His hate crimes legislation is some of the most unjust legislation ever passed. HEINOUS! I obviously cannot vote for liberals, so I simply must write-in the only candidate who delivers the goods:Ron Paul. His not winning will be a tragedy that I will regret. McCain`s not winning will send a wonderful message to the GOP.
The British still have Habeas Corpus. We don't, along with Communist China and North Korea. That's the most basic and fundamental right there is, and ours was taken away by the Military Commissions Act.
I will not vote for McCain, but I also won't stay home. A lesson I learned from a waitress: if you don't leave a tip, you might have been forgetful. If you leave a dime, you were clearly displeased with the service. I'll go and vote write in...for Ron Paul..the Republicans have forgotten what they are supposed to stand for: social and fiscal conservatism. It's time to send a message. My vote might help send that message.
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