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Kitty
03-15-2008, 04:35 PM
Story (http://www.newsweek.com/id/123248)

hendrixfreak70
03-15-2008, 04:36 PM
I hope they all lose, because they are all losers. I am going Libertarian or Constitution Party. Isn't it sad that we have to have a Constitution Party?

dollfus46
03-15-2008, 04:37 PM
Thanks Kitty. I tole ya. McCain has a better chance of winning than the Dems. If the independents and Republicans turn out, McCain will win. People have never never gone for a far left nor far right candidate.

hendrixfreak70
03-15-2008, 04:39 PM
Reagan was kinda far right despite hating the left/right paradigm. I do too. I am for freedom. For privacy. For fiscal responsibility. For the Constitution. Against wasteful spending. Etc, etc.

Kitty
03-15-2008, 04:47 PM
It seems to me like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are both dealing with damage control issues on almost a daily basis.

hendrixfreak70
03-15-2008, 04:48 PM
I really think the powers that be want more war and less jobs. That is what McCain will bring, as will Clinton and Obama. So for the PTB it is a win-win-win.

Kitty
03-15-2008, 04:51 PM
Another thing to consider is our next president will come from the federal government, as all three major candidates remaining in the race are U.S. senators.

Conversely, our current president came from state government, as the former governor of Texas.

marion
03-15-2008, 06:22 PM
McCain doesn't have a chance and I firmly believe Barack Obama will be our next president, whether I like it or not, and the sad fact of the matter is that it has nothing to do with issues important to this country.

McCain is overshadowed by Bush and too old to have the charisma that Obma has. Obama has charisma on the level of the Kennedys. It doesn't matter how good of a leader he is, he's young, a powerful/believeable speaker, relatively good looking, and he preaches CHANGE. (Yes, race is part of it too, although I think in order to win the election it has to be about more than race, otherwise we would've already had a black president.)

People are ready for change and McCain's not the one preaching it, even if he was no one would believe him. No one is going to care if Hillary and Obama are fighting, as long as they don't have to put up with someone synonymous with Bush for another 4 years.

dollfus46
03-15-2008, 06:55 PM
. I am for freedom. For privacy. For fiscal responsibility. For the Constitution. Against wasteful spending. Etc, etc.
Odd, how every candidate is for that until they get elected:laugh:

dollfus46
03-15-2008, 07:05 PM
McCain doesn't have a chance and I firmly believe Barack Obama will be our next president, whether I like it or not, and the sad fact of the matter is that it has nothing to do with issues important to this country.

McCain is overshadowed by Bush and too old to have the charisma that Obma has. Obama has charisma on the level of the Kennedys. It doesn't matter how good of a leader he is, he's young, a powerful/believeable speaker, relatively good looking, and he preaches CHANGE. (Yes, race is part of it too, although I think in order to win the election it has to be about more than race, otherwise we would've already had a black president.)

People are ready for change and McCain's not the one preaching it, even if he was no one would believe him. No one is going to care if Hillary and Obama are fighting, as long as they don't have to put up with someone synonymous with Bush for another 4 years.
I think you might have missed something along the way. McCain has not been a Bush puppy in 8 years. They don't like each other a lot. Only thing they have in common is they are both Republicans. Even about the war, McCain chided Bush for the way he was running the war, or at least the way Rummy was. He voted against Bush's tax decrease too. He's his own man, not a Party loyalist.

Kitty
03-15-2008, 07:11 PM
. . .He's his own man, not a Party loyalist.

Which is quite aggravating to many of the Party loyalists.

marion
03-15-2008, 07:12 PM
I think you might have missed something along the way. McCain has not been a Bush puppy in 8 years. They don't like each other a lot. Only thing they have in common is they are both Republicans. Even about the war, McCain chided Bush for the way he was running the war, or at least the way Rummy was. He voted against Bush's tax decrease too. He's his own man, not a Party loyalist.

I agree but tell that to the American public. To most people, Republican = more Bush, whether it's true in reality or not. McCain is doomed just because of the label "Republican".

dollfus46
03-15-2008, 07:15 PM
I agree but tell that to the American public. To most people, Republican = more Bush, whether it's true in reality or not. McCain is doomed just because of the label "Republican".

Well, you could very well be correct, Marion. I'm voting for McCain. Not because he's my choice though.:smt086

dreamhippy
03-15-2008, 10:08 PM
One of them has to win. I cannot seem to care which of them it will be. As far as I can tell, my choice was taken from me (by a media brainwashed public) to vote for true change and something different. Between them, the candidates want to feed the world on our taxes, give healthcare to everyone on our dollars, make war forever on our dollars, Give the illegal aliens amnesty and DON`T CLOSE THE G-D BORDERS!, yeah, that`ll keep the country safe and reduce the National Debt! NOT! Read sarcasm dripping here. I know some apparently like those candidates remaining. I don`t. Sorry if I offend anyone. That is not my intent. I just honestly feel like this election is a complete ripoff just like the last one and the one before that. Maybe DIEBOLD has rigged the machines. Maybe if they haven`t but did, that would be a fricken improvement. I just know I would walk around any one of the remaining candidates and not spit on them if they were on fire. The choices are much too limited: Liberal liberal, Moderate Liberal, Liberal Republican. Doesn`t anyone else see the problem?

SoMissTV
03-15-2008, 10:27 PM
As far as I can tell, my choice was taken from me (by a media brainwashed public)

The beauty of democracy is that the majority wins. Sometimes you end up on the other side, but that, again, is what makes us great.


Maybe DIEBOLD has rigged the machines. Maybe if they haven`t but did, that would be a fricken improvement.

Suggesting that voting fraud is preferred to clean elections certainly goes against the grain of those who have created and defended our Constitution.

hendrixfreak70
03-15-2008, 10:31 PM
The beauty of democracy is that the majority wins. Sometimes you end up on the other side, but that, again, is what makes us great.




Suggesting that voting fraud is preferred to clean elections certainly goes against the grain of those who have created and defended our Constitution.

Our Founders were cynics. To suggest they weren't would be asinine. They would be cynical of an automated voting machine. I don't think it goes against the grain either. Those who defend the Constitution are cynics too. (this guy is one)