If Bill Clinton were Running for Prez.

[Fish-Bait]

Would you vote for him over McCain?

Just curious

[Fish-Bait]

Ya'll don't think slick Willie is better than McCain or O'bama?

[Fire Extinguisher]

I dont like none of them.

[OTM]

Ya'll don't think slick Willie is better than McCain or O'bama?We don't really 'know' how either one of them will be. I'll give both of them a chance before I'd vote for Tricky Dick again.

[Augustus McRae]

Did he say "...Tricky Dick..." ???

[Fish-Bait]

Did he say "...Tricky Dick..." ???


I do believe he did Gus.:kekeke:

[dollfus46]

Might as well vote for McCain, because someone would shoot Clinton shortly after he took office.

[LEGS]

Ya'll don't think slick Willie is better than McCain or O'bama?


Better at what? Not having sexual relationships with interns?:smt102

[Fish-Bait]

Better at what? Not having sexual relationships with interns?:smt102

I'm just a little un-nerved or whatever about this upcoming election. I was thinking about now and what we had back then. We aren't nearly as in good a shape as what we were when Clinton was in office and frankly I don't think the two candidates we have won't do as good of a job as Billy Boy.

[mi_nombre_es]

Better at what? Not having sexual relationships with interns?:smt102


Sorry, I have much respect for Bill after coming out and saying "Yes she did give me 'party favors' in the oval office". That took alot of guts and courage.

Now we have Obama, who was a member of this certain church for MANY years, the preacher never changed, now Obama drops him like a hot potato. Why? do we really believe he just left the church or is he just saying he did so he can rub that black mark off his record?

[TheKing]

i still dont understand how having a crazy preacher makes you a bad person

ive had several crazy preachers in my lifetime

[Conveyor Belt]

Sorry, I have much respect for Bill after coming out and saying "Yes she did give me 'party favors' in the oval office". That took alot of guts and courage.

Now we have Obama, who was a member of this certain church for MANY years, the preacher never changed, now Obama drops him like a hot potato. Why? do we really believe he just left the church or is he just saying he did so he can rub that black mark off his record?

I'm not really following you.

I don't know how much courage it takes to say it happened after everyone knows it happened. That's like if noway said he didn't wreck his scooter.

[Fish-Bait]

i still dont understand how having a crazy preacher makes you a bad person

ive had several crazy preachers in my lifetime

and he's had "1".........see the connection there?

[brianinms]

Heck ... I'm confused as I thought Bill was running under the cover of his wife

[TheKing]

i get what you are saying...

but looking at his record that ive seen (admittedly... pretty much just what the media has allowed me to see... including foxnews) I do not see that crazy ass preachers thought process reflected in the way hes voted and his plan on his site...

i mean... yeah hes liberal... yes theres some things i dont agree wtih... but i dont see the abject racist craziness that youre implying.. if you see it, i would love to know.. but i just dont.

but i can assure you... obama > mccain

YouTube - John McCain... Electable?

that was put together by a ron paul guy btw

[ComputerDude]

I'd vote for Bill.

[Fish-Bait]

Question: Is O'bama half black and half white?

[Fish-Bait]

i get what you are saying...

but looking at his record that ive seen (admittedly... pretty much just what the media has allowed me to see... including foxnews) I do not see that crazy ass preachers thought process reflected in the way hes voted and his plan on his site...

i mean... yeah hes liberal... yes theres some things i dont agree wtih... but i dont see the abject racist craziness that youre implying.. if you see it, i would love to know.. but i just dont.

but i can assure you... obama > mccain

YouTube - John McCain... Electable? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlX9l1g1ZE0)

that was put together by a ron paul guy btw

I watched the first 3:50 of the video. Looks to me like it was put together by an Islamic.

[dollfus46]

Ya'll don't think slick Willie is better than McCain or O'bama?
How soon you forget young one. Carter, uh, Clinton had a shot and was a do nothing President. Benign. Held the office door open until a successor could be named. I still think were at war now because Clinton didn't have the cajones to confront the enemy. Instead he sent our troops to die for less than they are dying for now, while he played hide the weasel with some cow off the oval office. The man is human garbage. JMO.

[Bee Line]

I'm not really following you.

I don't know how much courage it takes to say it happened after everyone knows it happened. That's like if noway said he didn't wreck his scooter. Define "wreck".:kekeke:

[dollfus46]

Did he say "...Tricky Dick..." ???
Yeah he did:(

[EricStratton]

I'd vote for Bill Clinton....if I'd have know GW Bush was gonna be such an idiot, I'd have been in favor of leaving him in for the duration....

I don't see what gettin' a BJ on the side has to do with being President....I think we've learned that even the most dignified of our Presidnets have some skeletons in the closet....my only criticism is that, if he was gonna do it, I'm sure he could have pulled some better looking leg than Monica....

[Comments 2]

Question: Is O'bama half black and half white?

Yes, he had a white Mama from Kansas so the other side of his family are white folks. I am so tired of hearing about Obama being the "first Black this and that" when he ain't BLACK....he is Multi-racial. And I would think he would play THAT card to bring over those that are concerned about a BLACK man being elected.

[dollfus46]

I'd vote for Bill Clinton....if I'd have know GW Bush was gonna be such an idiot, I'd have been in favor of leaving him in for the duration....

I don't see what gettin' a BJ on the side has to do with being President....I think we've learned that even the most dignified of our Presidnets have some skeletons in the closet....my only criticism is that, if he was gonna do it, I'm sure he could have pulled some better looking leg than Monica....
Character counts to some of us who were raised to have it and behave as if we did.

[EricStratton]

Character counts to some of us who were raised to have it and behave as if we did.

Oh lord....

[dollfus46]

Oh lord....
:bowrofl: That struck me funny. :smt023

[Fish-Bait]

Yes, he had a white Mama from Kansas so the other side of his family are white folks. I am so tired of hearing about Obama being the "first Black this and that" when he ain't BLACK....he is Multi-racial. And I would think he would play THAT card to bring over those that are concerned about a BLACK man being elected.

So...what you are saying..he is half and half....but, yet he plays to the black crowd?

He goes to a black church...oh, crap...he doesn't anymore...dang....well I guess he just chooses black over white or whatever..his choice I guess.

[EricStratton]

So...what you are saying..he is half and half....but, yet he plays to the black crowd?

He goes to a black church...oh, crap...he doesn't anymore...dang....well I guess he just chooses black over white or whatever..his choice I guess.

wtf?

[PalominofillyinMS]

Bill Clinton was a disgrace to the Office of the Presidency, IMO! He was one of the worst that ever held the office. I can't believe that I heard on some news channel a couple weeks ago that a lot of people were saying that he was one of the best! What a Joke! If he had been doing his job, instead of "hiding the weasel"(as Dollfus so succinctly put it:smt023) we would have gotten Bin Laden & Hussein & we would not be in this mess!:smt086

[Fish-Bait]

Bill Clinton was a disgrace to the Office of the Presidency, IMO! He was one of the worst that ever held the office. I can't believe that I heard on some news channel a couple weeks ago that a lot of people were saying that he was one of the best! What a Joke! If he had been doing his job, instead of "hiding the weasel"(as Dollfus so succinctly put it:smt023) we would have gotten Bin Laden & Hussein & we would not be in this mess!:smt086

We are in a much nastier mess with a conservative...well .....o.k...

we are in a much nastier mess than we were with "Tricky Dick"...as a poster put it....

wouldn't you want to be back in 1995? or whatever?

[PalominofillyinMS]

I would rather be back where Reagan was in office. He was a good man & also a brilliant one. What a shame that he died from Alzheimers, as did his equally brilliant friend, the Great Charlton Heston. Now Heston would have made a GREAT President! He just didn't want to go that route.

[EricStratton]

the Great Charlton Heston. Now Heston would have made a GREAT President! He just didn't want to go that route.

I just choked on my p-nut butter and crackers! You're kidding, right?

[PalominofillyinMS]

No, I am not kidding. Charlton Heston said that "Affirmative Action is a load of crap!" He was a true patriot & loved his country & would do anything for it. You may not know this, but he was in the Air Force in WWII and rose to the rank of Staff Sergeant. He was all for protecting the Constitution, particularly the 2nd Ammendment that allows us to bear arms. You can bet the criminal element is going to have guns, don't you want to be able to have a gun to protect yourself & your family?

[EricStratton]

No, I am not kidding. Charlton Heston said that "Affirmative Action is a load of crap!" He was a true patriot & loved his country & would do anything for it. You may not know this, but he was in the Air Force in WWII and rose to the rank of Staff Sergeant. He was all for protecting the Contstitution, particularly the 2nd Ammendment that allows us to bear arms. You can bet the criminal element is going to have guns, don't you want to be able to have a gun to protect yourself & your family?

Yeah, yeah, yeah...."cold dead fingers"....*yawn*....I'd hate for anyone to deprive you of your AK-47.....

[PalominofillyinMS]

We don't own an AK-47. I have severe neurological damage in both hands so I would not be able to shoot a gun. But my Hubby can & he has a very beautiful hand made gun cabinet full of them.

[TheKing]

I would rather be back where Reagan was in office. He was a good man & also a brilliant one. What a shame that he died from Alzheimers, as did his equally brilliant friend, the Great Charlton Heston. Now Heston would have made a GREAT President! He just didn't want to go that route.

no he wouldnt have... sure we would have had great gun laws but if thats all youre voting on... then you live in a very shallow world

[PalominofillyinMS]

It would not have been for the gun laws. He was a good, honorable person. He was married to his ONLY wife for 64 years. That should give you an inkling of his character. He was a true Patriot. President Bush gave him the highest civilian medal that a person can receive in 2003.

[TheKing]

being a good man isnt enough. it helps... but it takes more than that

and heston was myopic.

[Mr French]

I don't see what gettin' a BJ on the side has to do with being President....I think we've learned that even the most dignified of our Presidnets have some skeletons in the closet....my only criticism is that, if he was gonna do it, I'm sure he could have pulled some better looking leg than Monica....

It's not the BJ on the side that upset me, it was the lying about it to the court and to the American people who elected him.

[Conveyor Belt]

Bill Clinton had the great fortune of inheriting a booming economy and the beginning of the dot.com era. The economy was going like crazy, online stock trading, new computer sales, booming this and booming that. He avoided major wars, despite the bombing of the World Trade Centers, the Marine barracks in the Middle East, and several embassies across the globe. We had a few scuffs here and there, and had a discraceful follow-up to humanitarian missions, which the military shouldn't be involved in, IMO. However, we mostly just lobbed cruise missiles at aspirin factories. When we were offered Bin Laden, Clinton turned him down... but hind site's 20/20, y'know?

The media loved Clinton, save for a brief moment during the Lewinsky days, but otherwise, they were 100% on.

I think that if we successfully end the war in Iraq without causing too much chaos in the wake (I don't see how that's possible, but we'll see), and focus our efforts on our country, then no matter who's president, we'll get a slow return to those carefree times of the 90's.

[Mr French]

i still dont understand how having a crazy preacher makes you a bad person

ive had several crazy preachers in my lifetime

It's not the fact that Obama has/had a crazy preacher, it's the fact he claimed he wasn't crazy the past 20 years and just suddenly went all racist crazy on Hillary that one time. It's obvious and people have come forth and said that Rev. Wright has always had those anti-American views, but for Obama to say "oh this is not the man I've known for 20 years" and to cave under the pressure of the media and quit the church just shows what kind of character he has.

He's just too much of any empty suit and still hasn't proved to me he has any balls. (I really do believe Hillary had more balls than Obama ever will).

[dollfus46]

We are in a much nastier mess with a conservative...well .....o.k...

we are in a much nastier mess than we were with "Tricky Dick"...as a poster put it....

wouldn't you want to be back in 1995? or whatever?

Richard Nixon was a good President. I doubt he would have carried 49 states in the biggest landslide victory in history when he ran for re-election if he was that bad. His "crime" was covering up the Watergate break-in. He never ordered it. Never knew about it until after the fact. Probably the best foreign relations president ever. Re-established diplomatic relations with China, who at the time, were poised to kick our butts. Ended Viet Nam was AS PROMISED. Never cheated on his wife, or at least, never got accused of it. Heh heh heh. Dems just love to bang on him because it's a victory for them for driving a Republican out of office. Unfortunately his legacy is Watergate just as Monica is Clinton's. JMO

[dollfus46]

no he wouldnt have... sure we would have had great gun laws but if thats all youre voting on... then you live in a very shallow world
I'd bet my last Confederate nickel 95% of the country vote for President on one issue or less; party affiliation not being an issue. 99% of the Obama supporters are probably voting for "change" without thinking "what kind of change?" I'm probably going to vote for McCain on one issue: He's not Obama. Most all of us live in the same world King. (Percentages quoted above pulled strickly from a dark warm place :kekeke:)

[dollfus46]

It's not the BJ on the side that upset me, it was the lying about it to the court and to the American people who elected him.
Only person I know who lied to a grand jury and didn't do time.:smt102 Scooter Libby, even Li'l Kim the rapper, lied to protect her boyfriend. In the slammer for 12 months.:smt086

[ComputerDude]

Question: Is O'bama half black and half white?No I think he's half white and half black.

I'd vote for Bill Clinton....if I'd have know GW Bush was gonna be such an idiot, I'd have been in favor of leaving him in for the duration....
The duration? He finished his final term. He wasn't removed from office.

[dollfus46]

Bill Clinton had the great fortune of inheriting a booming economy and the beginning of the dot.com era. The economy was going like crazy, online stock trading, new computer sales, booming this and booming that. He avoided major wars, despite the bombing of the World Trade Centers, the Marine barracks in the Middle East, and several embassies across the globe. We had a few scuffs here and there, and had a discraceful follow-up to humanitarian missions, which the military shouldn't be involved in, IMO. However, we mostly just lobbed cruise missiles at aspirin factories. When we were offered Bin Laden, Clinton turned him down... but hind site's 20/20, y'know?

The media loved Clinton, save for a brief moment during the Lewinsky days, but otherwise, they were 100% on.

I think that if we successfully end the war in Iraq without causing too much chaos in the wake (I don't see how that's possible, but we'll see), and focus our efforts on our country, then no matter who's president, we'll get a slow return to those carefree times of the 90's.
Good piecre, CB, but the economy was in the tank. Remember, "It's the Economy, stupid"? that help elect him. That and the "Read my lips. No more taxes" faux pas of H.W.

[fuzzis]

I'd bet my last Confederate nickel 95% of the country vote for President on one issue or less; party affiliation not being an issue. 99% of the Obama supporters are probably voting for "change" without thinking "what kind of change?" I'm probably going to vote for McCain on one issue: He's not Obama. Most all of us live in the same world King. (Percentages quoted above pulled strickly from a dark warm place :kekeke:)

The parties are so similar these days that most voters are forced to be one or two issue voters. There are a couple of things that McCain supports that I just can't get behind. Period. So, I won't vote for him. The Sugar Daddy is a social and fiscal liberal, but the thing that rings his bell is gun control (lifetime member of the NRA). So he's a registered Republican and that's the only issue he looks at when he votes.

[ComputerDude]

Bill Clinton had the great fortune of inheriting a booming economy and the beginning of the dot.com era. The economy was going like crazy, online stock trading, new computer sales, booming this and booming that.There was hardly a dot-com boom in 1992. The internet hadn't really even "taken off" yet. AOL and Compuserv were the number one ways people were getting on the net and even then there wasn't even a fraction of the web users there are now. The dot.com boom didn't really hit until the mid-nineties, well into his Presidency.
Before Bill the country was in a recession.

[Bahlk]

Vote for "None of the Above" LOL

[dollfus46]

i still dont understand how having a crazy preacher makes you a bad person

ive had several crazy preachers in my lifetime
What? Crazy Preacher? If he's a democrat, he's a crazy preacher. To anyone else he's a white hating racist who spews hate venom to stir up his congregation against whites. And Obama, by sitting there ingesting that filth is of the same ilk.
Ask yourself, if Wright was white you wouldn't call him racist? If the tenents of that church were white, you wouldn't call it racist. They are nothing more than members of a Black, White Arian Nation, Black Skinheads, etc. if you're honest with yourself.

[ComputerDude]

What? Crazy Preacher? If he's a democrat, he's a crazy preacher. To anyone else he's a white hating racist who spews hate venom to stir up his congregation against whites. And Obama, by sitting there ingesting that filth is of the same ilk.
Ask yourself, if Wright was white you wouldn't call him racist? If the tenents of that church were white, you wouldn't call it racist. They are nothing more than members of a Black, White Arian Nation, Black Skinheads, etc. if you're honest with yourself.Which crazy preacher are you talking about because Obama has two now?

[dollfus46]

Which crazy preacher are you talking about because Obama has two now?
I tell my class that the only "stupid question is the one not asked." I stand corrected.