censorship..

[usmfiz]

..is alive and well.

That is all.

[mi_nombre_es]

plz don't start this again. thank you :)

[Engelbert Humperdinck]

WOW, I must have missed something.

So...WTH happened?

[Rainey]

I'm calling post deletion.

[usmfiz]

plz don't start this again. thank you :)

At least a reason, or some sort of warning, should be warrented for deletion. Heaven forbid someone leave a restaurant bad feedback for a very bad dining experience.

Guess O'Charley's is either a site sponsor, or someone who worked there got ticked off.:cry::cry:

The fact remains, however, that if good service and good food had been served in an atmosphere free of insects, I'd be happy about dining there last night.


Tell ya what...I'm outta here. You can delete the whole enchilada, me included. :smt023:smt023:smt023

[Fire Extinguisher]

I doubt..... a very high doubt.... that there is such a thing as a bug free eating establishment anywhere in the freaking state of Misasipe!

[aaron]

We talked about having restaurant reviews a long time ago. I wanted to do a system like the movie reviews where we put a poll up and people vote. Others disagreed and warned against doing this. In the end, we decided we weren't going to do it. I know I've let a few of these go by, but now it seems that it's the latest greatest thing to do is come home from a meal and trash a restaurant. It's not really fair to the business, and that goes for any business.

In short, if you want to review a business, please use a site that is set up for that purpose. I like Yahoo Local (http://local.yahoo.com). Someone coming here to write a review and it be lost in the thread system here is counterproductive.

[Engelbert Humperdinck]

So is that only for negative reviews or no reviews period? Caliente grill probably got some customers from MH that may not have tried it, if another member hadn't been there and reviewed it so highly.

[mac]

Can't we still trash them in off topic forums??

[Pirate_129]

This is a bad precedent to set. If we start limiting a posters ability to share their experiences at restaurants, where does it end? Can we talk about good or bad experiences with shopping places or are we scared of employees? Can we review movies for fear of upsetting the producers?

We're also opening back up that can of selective enforcement everyone has worked so hard to keep closed the last few months....

It's your site, you make the rules and I'll respect them. It just seems odd that we can discuss our experiences, good or bad, on virtually and topic except eating establishments. :confused:

[mac]

Can't we still trash them in off topic forums???? Huh? huh??

[hendrixfreak70]

Booosh's fault.

[aaron]

This is a bad precedent to set. If we start limiting a posters ability to share their experiences at restaurants, where does it end? Can we talk about good or bad experiences with shopping places or are we scared of employees? Can we review movies for fear of upsetting the producers?

We're also opening back up that can of selective enforcement everyone has worked so hard to keep closed the last few months....

It's your site, you make the rules and I'll respect them. It just seems odd that we can discuss our experiences, good or bad, on virtually and topic except eating establishments. :confused:

I'm not saying you can't share your experiences. I'm saying you need to share them at a place that is organized for reviews like Yahoo Local. This is the internet and everything for everyone does not have to be located at this site alone. If I wanted to look for good or bad reviews on restaurants, would you look here? No, you'd spend an entire day reading through threads that may or may not deal with your restaurant. Let's, as a group, put them somewhere where they are organized so that we can help others (new to Hattieburg and natives) come to a decision about a restaurant. I like Yahoo Local, but of course anyone can make suggestions about where we need to organize our reviews. If I were going to do reviews here, I certainly would put in a better system than just letting someone start a topic about how they found a roach in their food. If I were to start a new restaurant, it would be too easy to get friends to trash the most popular ones in town so people start choosing mine.

[Kitty]

. . .Caliente grill probably got some customers from MH that may not have tried it, if another member hadn't been there and reviewed it so highly.

And Caliente Grille gives a MH discount. I doubt that would have come about without some discussion here.

(Speaking of Caliente, I noticed in the paper last week that they've applied for a liquor permit. Margaritas soon?!?)

[Engelbert Humperdinck]

I'm not saying you can't share your experiences. I'm saying you need to share them at a place that is organized for reviews like Yahoo Local. This is the internet and everything for everyone does not have to be located at this site alone. If I wanted to look for good or bad reviews on restaurants, would you look here? No, you'd spend an entire day reading through threads that may or may not deal with your restaurant. Let's, as a group, put them somewhere where they are organized so that we can help others (new to Hattieburg and natives) come to a decision about a restaurant. I like Yahoo Local, but of course anyone can make suggestions about where we need to organize our reviews. If I were going to do reviews here, I certainly would put in a better system than just letting someone start a topic about how they found a roach in their food. If I were to start a new restaurant, it would be too easy to get friends to trash the most popular ones in town so people start choosing mine.

Yeah, well a lot of us do check here first for information for the pine belt. I've come to expect that someone on here has information about the product or service I'm looking for, and since these are people I "know", then I'd be more likely to follow the recommendation that another member has left. It's like the Fiorella's Restaurant thread. Once I saw that several members had had a bad experience, I knew I didn't need/want to go there and waste my money. Maybe we can have a thread devoted to reviews of restaurants, similar to the movie reviews. Is that something that would take a lot to do, a new upgrade or something?

[LipsofanAngel]

I didn't see the "review" that was started. So maybe there's some kind of important info I'm misssing. But based on the info I see here- I'm disappointed... We should be able to share our experiences on HERE. I don't even know what else to say.... until a better reason is given on why we can't share an experience that we have at an establishment, then I stand by my opinion that you've made a ridiculous decision Aaron. I hope you or a mod will prove me wrong.

[virgo]

I also seemed to miss the "review" or thread...but I do know that a lot of people have posted comments about their experiences at restaurants and shopping places....they have been ever since I joined MH. (A few that come to mind.....Mexican Kitchen, Paninos as well as countless others).

What is the deal?

[Kitty]

I didn't see the "review" that was started. . .

In this case, it wasn't a review per se, it was a thread that discussed servers killing bugs in the dining area (where patrons were seated) of a local restaurant.

[mac]

In this case, it wasn't a review per se, it was a thread that discussed servers killing bugs in the dining area (where patrons were seated) of a local restaurant.

Let's also remember that it was the same local restaurant which was discussed in an earlier thread, about a month ago. And in that previous thread, a lot of people shared experiences that were similar to the one described in the deleted thread.

I say if it's true, share it. This is stupid.

[hendrixfreak70]

I'm stoopid.

[fuzzis]

Gonna say that I agree with the majority here. Poor decision.

[fuzzis]

I mean...are we going to get rid of threads like the YMCA childcare thread because people had a negative experience there?

[virgo]

I mean...are we going to get rid of threads like the YMCA childcare thread because people had a negative experience there?

Exactly. And what about the countless other threads where people have shared their experiences (good and bad) at other restaurants, stores and other businesses?

[Checkers Boy]

I want to think that I remember that your original intent for the site was for people new to Hattiesburg to connect with locals. I think you've met your goal in that. Now, this site has morphed into something more. It still serves it's original stated intent, but now, it's a sounding board and a cyber home for many.

I've read Yahoo Local, and frankly, it's just as easy to get a bunch of people to trash businesses on there as it would be here.

I'm not sure if you're worried about liability or what.

Take the Marino's thread. Some people liked it, some didn't. I'm not a home cooking/seafood buffet person, but if I was going to go to Marino's, I'd know that I'd feel better about my visit if I went during the lunch buffet. If I was satisfied with that, I might come back another day for the dinner and make my own decision.

Some people rally around Donanelle's steaks, while others have stated that the best steak they've ever had came from Outback and it put the Donanelle's steak to shame. People are different and have different opinions on the matter.

In the end, I think we're all adult enough to make up our own minds about stuff. O'Charley's lost me forever as a customer when I found a long red fiber at the bottom of my Honey Mustard ramekin. I'll visit an O'Charley's outside of Hattiesburg, but not the Hattiesburg location.

We rail on wal-mart all the time, and sing praises of other stores. Can we not do that because we're 'trashing' the business?

For that matter, is all disagreement bad, especially when everyone agrees? Take the Petal Man Arrested in Sex Sting thread. Should we delete all those posts because people wanted to do the man bodily harm for trying to have sex with a 13 year old?

If I say I don't like the color mauve, and start a thread about it, is it going to be deleted?

Oh, and isn't this whole thread bannable, and everyone who's posted in it, because they're openly questioning the admin decisions regarding the site? Tier 3 violation. Moderators who are posting, give yourselves a warning.

[Luvia]

I say if it's true, share it.

Agree. I'm a grown woman and can make decisions about where I choose to eat. I don't think anyone here would read about a bad experience and base their future behavior on a forum thread.

[Pirate_129]

I'm not saying you can't share your experiences. I'm saying you need to share them at a place that is organized for reviews like Yahoo Local. This is the internet and everything for everyone does not have to be located at this site alone. If I wanted to look for good or bad reviews on restaurants, would you look here? No, you'd spend an entire day reading through threads that may or may not deal with your restaurant. Let's, as a group, put them somewhere where they are organized so that we can help others (new to Hattieburg and natives) come to a decision about a restaurant. I like Yahoo Local, but of course anyone can make suggestions about where we need to organize our reviews. If I were going to do reviews here, I certainly would put in a better system than just letting someone start a topic about how they found a roach in their food. If I were to start a new restaurant, it would be too easy to get friends to trash the most popular ones in town so people start choosing mine.

If I review a restaurant, movie, book, etc, I don't do it so that Joe Blow can get a hit from google. I do it because the people on this forum have built a community. I would share the same type information here that I would tell a family member, friend, or co-worker. I would do it to get others opinions and find out if my experience, good or bad, was the exception or the rule. I also repsect the intelligence of our members enough that I realize they could see through a group of new screenames showing up and simply making posts bashing a restaurant to attempt to hurt their business.

I honestly don't care if my review of an eatery is archived for people to reference for eternity. I make a post just as I'd make conversation. If it's important to people, they file it away. If it isn't they forget it. My credibility as a member relies heavily on the former versus the later.

I, and I'd guess most other MHers, have patronized far more businesses because of information posted here than we have avoided because of the same. As I said in my first post, it's your ballgame and you make the rules. Unfortunetly, I'd have to rate this rule up there with the designated hitter (which is dumb).

[Kitty]

How can a stated observation be slanderous or libelous if it is true?

In this case, the person (along with others in the restaurant), observed servers killing roaches in the dining area.

That is not the same as saying the food was bad, which would be a subjective opinion.

[luvnlife]

I also repsect the intelligence of our members enough that I realize they could see through a group of new screenames showing up and simply making posts bashing a restaurant to attempt to hurt their business.

While I agree with Pirate's whole post, this statement is what I was going to say. I think the majority of us know when someone comes in and only posts in certain threads about the same things that they have a goal in mind. (a couple have even been called out on it)

[mi_nombre_es]

Wonder to talk about experiences at restuarants BUT DO NOT start the thread off with a post saying "Censorship is alive and well" and not state WHY you are saying that. It's pointless and it leaves the door open for alot of, "well what exactly is he talking about?"

If you got a point to make about censorship, make it right there in the opening post, we don't like suspense on this forum :smt023

[LipsofanAngel]

I see that no one has given a legit reason why the thread was deleted. Back to my July 4th fun now.... Aaron- you're wrong. It's "your" site, but you made a bad judgment call on this one. It's obvious you have some reason to feel that the establishment was represented in a negative way based on YOUR opinion.

So disappointed. I'll continue to post here because I love it. But doesn't mean I agree with all administrative decisions.

[EricStratton]

People and businesses get trashed on the internet everyday....I've even had my name (my real name) dragged through the mud on another site where people go to bash coaches and/or their schools.....nothing I could do about it....didn't really care...

Maybe O'Charl_ _'s will clean up their dam..dang...restaurant now and start serving customers like the customers are paying to eat there.....

[jojobeans1120]

I'm stoopid.

You not stoopid, you special!!!! ;)

[jojobeans1120]

Wonder to talk about experiences at restuarants BUT DO NOT start the thread off with a post saying "Censorship is alive and well" and not state WHY you are saying that. It's pointless and it leaves the door open for alot of, "well what exactly is he talking about?"

If you got a point to make about censorship, make it right there in the opening post, we don't like suspense on this forum :smt023



I think the point was made in a prior post that had been deleted ! :smt023

[jojobeans1120]

How can a stated observation be slanderous or libelous if it is true?

In this case, the person (along with others in the restaurant), observed servers killing roaches in the dining area.

That is not the same as saying the food was bad, which would be a subjective opinion.

Well, it is obvious the owner, or one of them post on here when he/she wants to advertise. Let him/her answer accusations... JMHO :smt102

See if he/she has resolved the problems....

[noway]

Free o'charley's

[EricStratton]

FREE aaron!!!!

(the cats got their claws after him!! LOL)

[fusil de asalto]

Someone here works for them. He posted it before the thread was deleted. If there was a problem or some things to clear up he should have stated them instead of requesting the thread being deleted. If someone posts negative about my business I'd request them to PM me and get it cleared up and let them post the outcome of it. If it's still negative at least I can defend my stance.

[mac]

Malco sucks!

[TheKing]

no negative reviews? because yahoo local reviews is a better place?

well i guess we should stay on last.fm to discuss music, rottentomatoes to discuss movies, politicalcrossfire to discuss politics, etc.

But only if its negative.. if its positive though... come discuss it here though.

poor decision

[Checkers Boy]

Someone here works for them. He posted it before the thread was deleted. If there was a problem or some things to clear up he should have stated them instead of requesting the thread being deleted. If someone posts negative about my business I'd request them to PM me and get it cleared up and let them post the outcome of it. If it's still negative at least I can defend my stance.

Thanks for giving us that bit of information.

That almost makes it worse. It's okay to talk in the negative about something, as long as no one works there...

wow.

I think aaron secretly LOVES O'Charley's... I jest.

[HubDawg]

I don't like it at all. I joined this site to learn new information about Hattiesburg before I moved here and have found it to be INVALUABLE in learning about the community.

To go down this slippery slope is crazy in my opinion. Nothing he said was criminal. If someone from a rival restaurant comes in here and trashes another restaurant falsely, then deal with it. But don't create a "blanket" policy that throws the baby out with the bathwater.

If this is the way it's gonna be, I won't be around much longer.

[mac]

Malco sucks!

Oops-- I meant to say THE GRAND SUCKS

[TheStereoGuy]

My place of work gets trashed in this forum all the time. I aint getting upset about it. Some of it I know is warranted and agree with it. It is what it is.

[dollfus46]

We talked about having restaurant reviews a long time ago. I wanted to do a system like the movie reviews where we put a poll up and people vote. Others disagreed and warned against doing this. In the end, we decided we weren't going to do it. I know I've let a few of these go by, but now it seems that it's the latest greatest thing to do is come home from a meal and trash a restaurant. It's not really fair to the business, and that goes for any business.

In short, if you want to review a business, please use a site that is set up for that purpose. I like Yahoo Local (http://local.yahoo.com). Someone coming here to write a review and it be lost in the thread system here is counterproductive.
You let a lot of restaurant reviews go by particularly those owned by members. There's a rule against advertising but you learn well how to re-define the rules to suit you, Aaron.

[Kitty]

. . .It's not really fair to the business, and that goes for any business. . . .

So is it appropriate for there to be a current discussion in another thread that involves Wal-Mart? :confused:

:smt102

[noway]

Supper has already been served in the slammer. You might get hungry later :smt102

[Ted]

Supper has already been served in the slammer. You might get hungry later :smt102:smt103

:bowrofl:heh heh heh

Yeah, you got a 'har har' outta me! ;)

[aaron]

First, let's get rid of rumor that I know someone at O'Charley's. I don't. I've had my own experiences there, and some were much like stories that have been posted. That being said, I have to draw the line somewhere. When someone starts a thread titled "O'Roach...I mean O'Charley's", your out of the realm of a non-biased review. When someone types out a legitimate review rating the food, service, atmosphere, etc., I let it go by. Some of the latest "reviews" though are nothing more than trash pieces to me and they really make me uncomfortable that they exist on this forum.

A couple of years ago when I proposed doing reviews, that's exactly where people told me it would end up. We discussed having them in 2006. We discussed it again in 2007. In 2007, I had the idea to make threads about each restaurant and put them in a review forum. I was told that the threads would just become a slew of negative jabs and stories of bad experiences that would leave a newcomer to Hattiesburg wondering if we had anything good to eat here. I believe that now to be true advice. Sure, when a new business opens, it gets some good reviews, but they start going downhill from there. If the business posts here, they will usually have a unusual amount of good reviews when compared to others.

To anyone who says they cannot continue on in this community without restaurant reviews, all I can say is that we went without them for 3 years. I think you can continue to have a viable community without restaurant reviews. I hate to put a blanket rule on them just as much as you do, but after letting them go for the past 6 months or so, I'm not sure that I can say that civil reviews of restaurants are allowed and that actually be followed. If restaurant reviews are ever done on this site, it will most likely be a rating system and/or have designated reviewers with an informative writing style. Not a system open to these pejorative jabs that can ruin the reputation of any good authority you may have on a subject.

[PalominofillyinMS]

I have bought many a gift card for family & friends to the restaurant that was being discussed here. I have even said that I thought that the best steaks in the Burg were there. My best friend & her BF went to this restaurant just a few nights ago & she told me about an incident that happened there. It was the people who were sitting next to them that experienced "a little extra protein" in their salad. It was the same species that was being discussed here. I will not go back to that restaurant again. Chilies in Petal has great steaks & we will go there from now on.

[petalgirl00]

Word of mouth is a powerful tool and the majority come to this site to learn about the area. They had roaches-big deal(I know it's a big deal but..). IF they don't want the public to know, they should clean better. This isn't China, afterall.

[betsy]

I do like the posts about the good and bad restaurants in here, but I can see Aaron's point. People now a days seem to want to sue for any little thing and could maybe use the roach talk to sue for slander if there was no proof. I am no lawyer but I would personally hate to see our site shut down because of this. If we could just do like he said and have a food, service, price, and maybe cleanliness review I don't see that that would be a bad thing.

[Pirate_129]

Will this ban on us expressing our opinions and experiences extend to subejcts other than restaurants? Can we see some retroactive deletion to take away any opinions expressed on the forums maybe. :bowrofl:

[Kitty]

Will this ban on us expressing our opinions and experiences extend to subejcts other than restaurants? . . .

I've asked that question, too.

I sincerely would like to know.

[Checkers Boy]

To anyone who says they cannot continue on in this community without restaurant reviews, all I can say is that we went without them for 3 years. I think you can continue to have a viable community without restaurant reviews. I hate to put a blanket rule on them just as much as you do, but after letting them go for the past 6 months or so, I'm not sure that I can say that civil reviews of restaurants are allowed and that actually be followed. If restaurant reviews are ever done on this site, it will most likely be a rating system and/or have designated reviewers with an informative writing style. Not a system open to these pejorative jabs that can ruin the reputation of any good authority you may have on a subject.

Can you please clarify this?

The rule in the restaurant business is that if a guest has a negative experience, they're going to tell 10 people.. and it will take you making it right for that guest 10 times in order to make them forget or forgive that one bad experience.

I agree with the poster who said that if they have a bad experience, they come here and post about it because they want to know if it was just that one time, or if it's the norm. In fairness, when that happens, you get posts that are supportive of the business if people have had a good experience there. People will defend what they like or love. You can see it in the Marino's thread.

Personally, I think the system works.

[usmfiz]

First, let's get rid of rumor that I know someone at O'Charley's. I don't. I've had my own experiences there, and some were much like stories that have been posted. That being said, I have to draw the line somewhere. When someone starts a thread titled "O'Roach...I mean O'Charley's", your out of the realm of a non-biased review. When someone types out a legitimate review rating the food, service, atmosphere, etc., I let it go by. Some of the latest "reviews" though are nothing more than trash pieces to me and they really make me uncomfortable that they exist on this forum.

I can assure you, Aaron, that I was unbiased when I walked in the door at the place in question. They had recently remodeled, and it used to be one of my favorite places to eat.

I had high hopes, because I was hungry (duh) and because I had heard that the place was like it used to be-- a good place to enjoy a meal.

You're correct, however, that AFTER my experience I was biased. You'd have to be crazy NOT to be biased after witnessing the killing of a poor defenseless roach, being served the wrong salad dressing, and being served the wrong meal, by an unprofessional staff, among other things.

I spent around $65 that night. I sure wish someone had warned me (and in retrospect, there was another thread that I should have paid more attention to) that the place had went that far downhill. All I wanted to do with the new topic was maybe--just maybe-- prevent someone else from wasting their hard earned money like I did.

I see other threads on here that are no different than mine concerning restaurants. I find it suspicious that my thread lived a happy life until someone who works for O'ch's posted a reply, and obviously others do, too.

If information such as that makes you uncomfortable, Aaron, perhaps running a message board that should be a medium for the free exchange of information is not for you.

That's my last post here at MH, I promise. There's some good peeps here, but for the most part, this place just ain't for me.:smt023

[Checkers Boy]

I hate to see you go, usmfiz... but I can understand.

[aaron]

Will this ban on us expressing our opinions and experiences extend to subejcts other than restaurants? Can we see some retroactive deletion to take away any opinions expressed on the forums maybe. :bowrofl:

If you would sincerely like to know, I don't see the same thing happening for other businesses, so it isn't a problem at this time.

I know the end of restaurant reviews takes away a huge portion of the discussion here and that some won't be able to go on without them.


If information such as that makes you uncomfortable, Aaron, perhaps running a message board that should be a medium for the free exchange of information is not for you.

I realized that long ago, but shutting down the site because I don't want restaurant reviews and others can't live without them would really be a pathetic end to this great community. I've wished many times that I was in your position, but I'm not. Some people are happy about that, some are not. It's just something I have to deal with day and night, year after year.

[Checkers Boy]

Aaron, I poke at you now and then, play devil's advocate a lot. Look at the people who have supported every direction this site has gone who see this as being a poor move.

I implore you to reconsider.

Food makes up a great part of our lives. Some more than others. There are new restaurants opening every day, and you know that dictates watercooler conversation. 'Have you tried X yet?'

Put it up for a vote, or something.

Some people come JUST for the restaurant reviews, did you know that? Maybe they'll see other parts of the site and join in there, too.

[dreamhippy]

I don`t care what restaurant serves it to me, I want my soda pop (without lemon) to come without lemon seeds in it. Otherwise, and I start thinking somebody is reusing iced tea ice for my soda pop. When the same restaurant serves me soda pop with lemon seeds in it more than once, I decide to eat elsewhere. It happened. I ain`t prejudiced. I don`t even feel obligated to mention their name. I just don`t give them my business.

There, I think this post should pass the censor. I could be wrong. It doesn`t happen often, but it happens.

[aaron]

Aaron, I poke at you now and then, play devil's advocate a lot. Look at the people who have supported every direction this site has gone who see this as being a poor move.

I implore you to reconsider.

Food makes up a great part of our lives. Some more than others. There are new restaurants opening every day, and you know that dictates watercooler conversation. 'Have you tried X yet?'

Put it up for a vote, or something.

Some people come JUST for the restaurant reviews, did you know that? Maybe they'll see other parts of the site and join in there, too.

The way I see it, those wanting restaurant reviews to continue on, we must put it in a forum and have some combination of these 3 choices:

1. Polls
2. Top Reviewers group who are in place to give a non-biased review of a restaurant
3. Moderate all reviews

I do not want to continue on with the "roach in my food thread system" that is currently taking place for the many reasons I have described earlier. Not to mention that if people come here just for restaurant reviews, it's been a painful experience for the past few years.

[itsmyopinion]

In this case, it wasn't a review per se, it was a thread that discussed servers killing bugs in the dining area (where patrons were seated) of a local restaurant.


Well I started that thread MONTHS AGO and I must be realy out of loop because I thought it was dead...???? :confused:

[kuntrykruzin1]

And Caliente Grille gives a MH discount. I doubt that would have come about without some discussion here.

(Speaking of Caliente, I noticed in the paper last week that they've applied for a liquor permit. Margaritas soon?!?)
cool i like that place. :clap:

[jojobeans1120]

The way I see it, those wanting restaurant reviews to continue on, we must put it in a forum and have some combination of these 3 choices:

1. Polls
2. Top Reviewers group who are in place to give a non-biased review of a restaurant
3. Moderate all reviews

I do not want to continue on with the "roach in my food thread system" that is currently taking place for the many reasons I have described earlier. Not to mention that if people come here just for restaurant reviews, it's been a painful experience for the past few years.


Fix it so that we can rate them on cleanliness, service, quality of food, etc....like a star system rating.. is that too complicated to add to the system?

[EricStratton]

The way I see it, those wanting restaurant reviews to continue on, we must put it in a forum and have some combination of these 3 choices:

1. Polls
2. Top Reviewers group who are in place to give a non-biased review of a restaurant
3. Moderate all reviews

I do not want to continue on with the "roach in my food thread system" that is currently taking place for the many reasons I have described earlier. Not to mention that if people come here just for restaurant reviews, it's been a painful experience for the past few years.

I don't live in the H'burg area any more, and my dad has always said that I'll eat anything that doesn't eat me first....so I think I'd be a great, unbiased reviewer....

EricStratton= President of the MH Restaurant Review Board....I like that...I think I may get me some business cards....no wait....EricStratton: Premier of the MH Restaurant Review Board...this ain't no democracy....no, no....EricStratton: Restaurant Review Czar! Yeah, I like that.....

[itsmyopinion]

People and businesses get trashed on the internet everyday....I've even had my name (my real name) dragged through the mud on another site where people go to bash coaches and/or their schools.....nothing I could do about it....didn't really care...

Maybe O'Charl_ _'s will clean up their dam..dang...restaurant now and start serving customers like the customers are paying to eat there.....


I actually had my name drug through the mud on THIS SITE about 2 years ago - and that was before I even knew what this site was all about. I was bashed for a decision that I made at work that disgruntled one of the MODs here on the site. So, my name got drug through the mud by a MOD - and I'm here 2 years later posting and loving it. It didn't tarnish my opinion of the site, and I appreciate that it was that MODs opinion... That's what this site is all about...

[Fish-Bait]

Did I ever tell you all about an experience at the Southbound Bagel Shop? lol

[OTM]

Did I ever tell you all about an experience at the Southbound Bagel Shop? lol
That was you?

Bagel

[wilebill]

I actually had my name drug through the mud on THIS SITE about 2 years ago - and that was before I even knew what this site was all about. I was bashed for a decision that I made at work that disgruntled one of the MODs here on the site. So, my name got drug through the mud by a MOD - and I'm here 2 years later posting and loving it. It didn't tarnish my opinion of the site, and I appreciate that it was that MODs opinion... That's what this site is all about...I didn't think there were any mods here 2 years ago.

[Fish-Bait]

That was you?

Bagel

No....just jarring peoples memories.

[EricStratton]

No....just jarring peoples memories.

Yeah...that's what that cop was doing to Gus' Bagel Guy too....

[itsmyopinion]

I didn't think there were any mods here 2 years ago.


Okay there may not have been MODs - what do you call the "creator" of a forum like this? Are they MODs?

[EricStratton]

oooohhhh.....buuurrrrrnnnnnn!

[fuzzis]

Okay there may not have been MODs - what do you call the "creator" of a forum like this? Are they MODs?

The creator of the forum is Aaron...the administrator. Mods are moderators...who monitor things and help out.

[OTM]

The creator of the forum is Aaron...the administrator. Mods are moderators...who monitor things and help out.Don't forget about the one's that sit on the throne up high in the castle that run things behind the scenes. :smt023

[Fish-Bait]

So the jist of this thread is that Aaron doesn't like it now, so it won't happen..

o.k.

Free Mr Bagel.

All's I know is that If I personally owned a restaurant I would like to come here and read about it. If someone had there story wrong I would personally de-bunk said story.

The Larger Corporations like O'charley's or Olive Garden could care less if I posted a thread sayin' that there was a fly in my chicken alfredo or the drinks sucked, but by lordy Johnson they would know Fish-Bait wasn't happy before I ever got here and posted. So would some more folks eatin' in the place.

anyways......carry on....

[jojobeans1120]

Don't forget about the one's that sit on the throne up high in the castle that run things behind the scenes. :smt023

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Checkers Boy]

That's business. We don't go out and praise the wonderful cashier we had at Wal-Mart. We tell about the horrible experience we had with the employee that scratched his ass inside his pants, then continued to stock apples. (BTW, I didn't see it happen, nor have I heard of it happening)

Anyone who's in business knows that you have to put out 100%, 100% of the time in order to maintain a good reputation. Even still, no one is going to go out and tell about their great experience.

I always have a great experience when I go in Crescent City Grill. I love going there b/c I know what I'm going to get. A great experience. I never come in here and talk about it.

I don't go out all that often, though. Maybe once every few months. So, if I go to Crescent City, and I have a bad experience, I'm going to come here, post about it and see if it's the new 'norm' there, or if I just caught someone on a bad day.

Suggesting yahoo local to review restaurants is silly, though. We can review movies there, too. We can go to democrat underground to discuss democrat politics and rightnation to discuss republican politics.

[wilebill]

Don't forget about the one's that sit on the throne up high in the castle that run things behind the scenes. :smt023

It's great to see that conspiracy theories still are alive and well here at MH. I guess it's a great way to pass the time. :smt069

[itsmyopinion]

Anyone who's in business knows that you have to put out 100%, 100% of the time in order to maintain a good reputation. Even still, no one is going to go out and tell about their great experience..

I disagree. I think that there is just as much positive promotion of eating establishments on here as there is negative. I mean, we've got several posts up right now about businesses and our opinions on them - New Sub Shop in Oak Grove, Marino's, Rainey's new business, Rocket City Diner - we'd be taking away a LARGE chunk of our threads if we weren't able to discuss establishments in Hattiesburg, including eating establishments.

But, I'll do as I'm told! :-D

[TheKing]

But, I'll do as I'm told! :-D

http://ocw.usu.edu/University_Extension/sheep-and-lambing-management/sheep.jpg

[Checkers Boy]

I disagree. I think that there is just as much positive promotion of eating establishments on here as there is negative. I mean, we've got several posts up right now about businesses and our opinions on them - New Sub Shop in Oak Grove, Marino's, Rainey's new business, Rocket City Diner - we'd be taking away a LARGE chunk of our threads if we weren't able to discuss establishments in Hattiesburg, including eating establishments.

But, I'll do as I'm told! :-D

But those are new establishments or non-existent establishments.

I'm sure everyone here has eaten McDonald's in the past month. How many McDonald's reviews are there? Any reviews for Dairy Queen or Burger King? Or Crescent City for that matter? Olive Garden, Outback?

Maybe the old saying, No News is Good News, applies. No Review is a Good Review.

[Chichiguita]

Don't forget about the one's that sit on the throne up high in the castle that run things behind the scenes. :smt023


Muhaahaahaaa!!!!

It's good to be queen...Now OFF with his head!!!:kekeke:


(don't get all cranky, I'm just playing with you.)

[itsmyopinion]

There have been reviews on Donanelle's (positive)
There have been reviews on Nannies (mixed positive and negative)
There have been reviews on Magic Tomato (mixed)
There have been reviews on Caliente Grill (positive)
There have been reviews on Chili's in Petal (positive)
There have been reviews on MANY established, existing restaurants. Both positive and not-so.

[Checkers Boy]

There have been reviews on Donanelle's (positive)
There have been reviews on Nannies (mixed positive and negative)
There have been reviews on Magic Tomato (mixed)
There have been reviews on Caliente Grill (positive)
There have been reviews on Chili's in Petal (positive)
There have been reviews on MANY established, existing restaurants. Both positive and not-so.

I know.

[TheKing]

There have been reviews on Donanelle's (positive)
There have been reviews on Nannies (mixed positive and negative)
There have been reviews on Magic Tomato (mixed)
There have been reviews on Caliente Grill (positive)
There have been reviews on Chili's in Petal (positive)
There have been reviews on MANY established, existing restaurants. Both positive and not-so.

the negative ones should be moved to yahoo local. only positive things here!

i think this is pretty appropriate for the situation

http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/compromise.jpg

[amanda]

The way I see it, those wanting restaurant reviews to continue on, we must put it in a forum and have some combination of these 3 choices:

1. Polls
2. Top Reviewers group who are in place to give a non-biased review of a restaurant
3. Moderate all reviews

I do not want to continue on with the "roach in my food thread system" that is currently taking place for the many reasons I have described earlier. Not to mention that if people come here just for restaurant reviews, it's been a painful experience for the past few years.

I know I haven't been on here a lot lately - but are you trying to say we can't discuss eating establishments anymore? I've read through 5 pages of this BS only to have no clear understanding of whether we can discuss places to eat or not. I think "overboard" describes whatever in the heck happened with the O'Charley's review/comments/thread/whatever. If it was the title that you didn't like - that was an easy fix - edit the title.

[Fish-Bait]

adhd

[jmb]

Fix it so that we can rate them on cleanliness, service, quality of food, etc....like a star system rating.. is that too complicated to add to the system?
That could be worked into a poll.

[OTM]

It's great to see that conspiracy theories still are alive and well here at MH. I guess it's a great way to pass the time. :smt069Oh Wilebill, you always seem to be pretty smart, but don't pass the rest of us off to be idiots. You know it's true, I know it's true, and anybody that's been here over a year knows it's true. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just a thing that happens.:smt105

[LipsofanAngel]

Been here 2 years. Don't consider myself an idiot either. I have never believed in any "conspiracy theory"... just disagree with admin at times.

[wilebill]

Oh Wilebill, you always seem to be pretty smart, but don't pass the rest of us off to be idiots. You know it's true, I know it's true, and anybody that's been here over a year knows it's true. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just a thing that happens.:smt105

Well, if it's true then I'm unaware of it. But I don't know a lot of things that go on around here so maybe somebody could bring me up to speed on it so I can jump on that bandwagon.

[fuzzis]

It's apparently still my fault...which is funny since those of us who are supposed to be "behind the throne" :jerk: disagree with this latest decision. Guess that blows that theory out of the water.

[OTM]

There's no bandwagon to jump on. It's just a fact of life.

[Engelbert Humperdinck]

I don't live in the H'burg area any more, and my dad has always said that I'll eat anything that doesn't eat me first....so I think I'd be a great, unbiased reviewer....

EricStratton= President of the MH Restaurant Review Board....I like that...I think I may get me some business cards....no wait....EricStratton: Premier of the MH Restaurant Review Board...this ain't no democracy....no, no....EricStratton: Restaurant Review Czar! Yeah, I like that.....

Will Stratton get another Weeble for this?

[amanda]

BS, more BS, total BS. This particular conspiracy theory lost it's "umph" a long time ago. There is only one person in control of this site and it's Aaron. Believe it or not, those alleged "behind the scenes" or "in the know" don't have a clue what is going to happen until everyone does.

[aaron]

These are the same people reviewing restaurants. They get shafted once and make up things from there on out. I don't see how anyone could trust it. For a long time, if you did a search on google for "Crosspoint Community Church", you got the thread here with all the religious extremists talking about how Dean Register was going to hell. None of it is how I want this site to be represented. Are all reviews or restaurant experiences banned? No, but this fly by the seat of my pants I hate the world for screwing me system is just bad. As you see here, once a person gets screwed, then the lie just gets bigger and bigger from there on out.

[TheKing]

BS, more BS, total BS. This particular conspiracy theory lost it's "umph" a long time ago. There is only one person in control of this site and it's Aaron. Believe it or not, those alleged "behind the scenes" or "in the know" don't have a clue what is going to happen until everyone does.

while i believe the 'conspiracy theory' idea is just an exaggeration of the situation, i also refuse to believe there isn't separate, private communication to mods and other advisory type members.

and i think the 'conspiracy theory' idea is more of the desire for the 'behind the scenes' types to NOT take private shots at individual members... basically a pleading from one 'behind the scenes' type to the rest to change their stance to one individual member.

the reason we KNOW it happens is because it WAS happening when the advisory type was an open membership thing.

remember the 'hey troll this guy out' threads? while i doubt those in particular are happening... there is always an equivalent.

the refusal of ANY of the mods to talk to SoMiss is proof of this... if there wasnt a separate discussion and an urging from one member to the rest to do a particular thing... one or two would at least talk to him.

[TheKing]

These are the same people reviewing restaurants. They get shafted once and make up things from there on out. I don't see how anyone could trust it. For a long time, if you did a search on google for "Crosspoint Community Church", you got the thread here with all the religious extremists talking about how Dean Register was going to hell. None of it is how I want this site to be represented. Are all reviews or restaurant experiences banned? No, but this fly by the seat of my pants I hate the world for screwing me system is just bad. As you see here, once a person gets screwed, then the lie just gets bigger and bigger from there on out.

and how do you know someone is lying?

[Fish-Bait]

and how do you know someone is lying?

that's where my deal about the manager or owner debuking the said "lie/truth" or thankin' them for it comes in.

the corporate folks really aren't goin' to give a flippin' flip.

[aaron]

and how do you know someone is lying?

Because I know these conspiracy theories are untrue.