MMORPG's in 2004

[subnet_rx]

Here's a look back at the games of 2004

http://www.grimwell.com/index.php?action=fullnews&id=220

[usm_designer]

the question is...

which one will be the best

guild wars is no pay to play, thats my favorite. but the PvE on it completely stinks. lvl 20 cap and you cant go any further. which makes the game end pretty quickly and you run out of things to do if you dont PvP. and the PvP is centered around groups.. not 1 on 1.. so either you have to be in a clan and they have to be on... or you just play the same old stuff that you've already beat.. because there isnt anything to do anymore

if there was a better medium that had no pay to play.. that would be the road to take. but looks like guild wars might be the only one to do this. maybe someone will get wise and follow their lead

[aaron]

$20 says Guild Wars either does expansion packs every 6 months that are $50, or starts a monthly subscription.

[usm_designer]

its going to do expansions every 6 months.. you are right

but so does every other game. the difference is.. you still pay that fee each month with every other game.. and a lot of the expansions REQUIRE you to buy them to continue leveling

with guild wars.. cap is 20.. wont be increased. and they've stated that if you dont buy the expansion. then it wont hurt you. nothing added to the expansion will give the new characters created any advantage over you (they dont get better weapons.. stuff like that)

and the expansion will be around 30 bucks

50 (game) + 30 (expansion) = 1 year = 80 bucks

50 + 15 x 12 (for monthly fee) + 30 (for expansion) = 1 year = 260 or if they dont have an expansion.. then 230 for the year

makes a big difference when you look at that monthly fee. its insane to know thats what i was doing at one point.. but never looked at it. LOL

[danrak]

Dungeon And Dragons Online will beat them all in 2005.

[usm_designer]

but its going to be pay to play though

still hasnt got the edge i want if its pay to play

[aaron]

its going to do expansions every 6 months.. you are right

but so does every other game. the difference is.. you still pay that fee each month with every other game.. and a lot of the expansions REQUIRE you to buy them to continue leveling

with guild wars.. cap is 20.. wont be increased. and they've stated that if you dont buy the expansion. then it wont hurt you. nothing added to the expansion will give the new characters created any advantage over you (they dont get better weapons.. stuff like that)

and the expansion will be around 30 bucks

50 (game) + 30 (expansion) = 1 year = 80 bucks

50 + 15 x 12 (for monthly fee) + 30 (for expansion) = 1 year = 260 or if they dont have an expansion.. then 230 for the year

makes a big difference when you look at that monthly fee. its insane to know thats what i was doing at one point.. but never looked at it. LOL


they'll be dead in a year then. People will get bored.

[subnet_rx]

Dungeon And Dragons Online will beat them all in 2005.

yeah, lots of people are saying that's going to be the good one.

[usm_designer]

its going to do expansions every 6 months.. you are right

but so does every other game. the difference is.. you still pay that fee each month with every other game.. and a lot of the expansions REQUIRE you to buy them to continue leveling

with guild wars.. cap is 20.. wont be increased. and they've stated that if you dont buy the expansion. then it wont hurt you. nothing added to the expansion will give the new characters created any advantage over you (they dont get better weapons.. stuff like that)

and the expansion will be around 30 bucks

50 (game) + 30 (expansion) = 1 year = 80 bucks

50 + 15 x 12 (for monthly fee) + 30 (for expansion) = 1 year = 260 or if they dont have an expansion.. then 230 for the year

makes a big difference when you look at that monthly fee. its insane to know thats what i was doing at one point.. but never looked at it. LOL


they'll be dead in a year then. People will get bored.

thats what i keep saying

there is only so much PvP that you can handle playing as a group. people keep saying on the GW forums that the PvP is what this game is all about... but yet there is only two types of PvP you can play.

one is kinda like capture the castle, where you try to raid the other team's castle and kill their Leader (its a bot)

the other is a 4 team tourney.. where you are let lose and have to kill the other teams Special Mage. when you win/lose.. you get sent to the next teams arena to face them. you have some kind of time limit to win also

its really quite boring.. thats why on the beta weekends i dont play them. because all the people (like 15 groups) that are in the alpha testing get to play against you. so you actually play against teams that can play 24/7 and arent restricted to beta weekends only.

and in a beta weekend.. i can get almost every mission beat.. and i dont even play much at all on the weekend it happens.

they said that only 20% of the content is in the beta weekends though.. so i dont know. there is suppose to be a massive amount more. but in 3 days i cant get 20% covered.. so we are looking at about a month and im done? PvP wont sustain me for the rest of the 5 months.

[tempatv]

anybody looked at the Matrix online game yet?

[tempatv]

by the way, what is a hub dollar?

[usm_designer]

matrix is going to suck.. everyone is saying that

[aaron]

I don't know if it's going to suck, but I don't think it's going to beat Face of Mankind.

[jtm038]

i thought matrix looked pretty good myself

[usm_designer]

yeah, buy it..

it will be on ebay after a month

[jtm038]

monthly fees is what gets me

[aaron]

Face of Mankind is out. http://www.fomportal.com

[F150]

the next MMORPG to come out is going to be Mourning (http://www.realmsofkrel.com/) (according to them)

[subnet_rx]

one of the most anticipated though is Dark and Light (http://www.darkandlight.net/) coming out in April

[usm_designer]

signed up for face of mankind.. but i dont think they are going to let me in beta

i mean.. i doubt i would have either.. seeing that i unchecked the "subscribe to our newsletter"

[Spencer]

World of Warcraft was the best MMORPG to come out in 2004. Hands down.

[F150]

so you tried and didn't get in? I thought it was open.

[usm_designer]

no, they have to choose you still

just like a lot of beta's now. they "advertise" open beta.. but it isnt

star wars was the same way i think. had to get choosen.