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HubCityMan1912
07-15-2005, 02:22 AM
On the front page of the Thursday 19 July 2005 edition of the Laurel Leader-Call newspaper is an article reporting the request by the large company Sanderson's Farms to the City of Laurel to ANNEX into the city limits ASAP their massive new corporate headquarters complex just outside the present western city limits of that town... [Go to: www.laureleadercall.com (http://www.laureleadercall.com/) ]

If at least 4 or 5,000 you good folks of "Oak Grove" would do the same--get organised and formally request that your area be annexed by the City of Hattiesburg ASAP, with that one stroke of genius you could help FREE (for many years to come) yourselves and your FELLOW CITIZENS to the east of I-59 from this corrupt and bumbling Third World regime now KILLING our beloved City--and University! Can you do it? (It's perfectly lawful under State Code.) [i]Will you do it? Well, you certainly should, since that territory by well-established and historic growth and expansion patterns (since at least 1910) and by annexation precedent is rightfully part of [western] Hattiesburg! (If not for--among other reasons-the asinne (e.g., I-59 is a "natural" barrier) and politically-motivated ruling of one State Judge Sebe Dale, your section would indeed have become a welcomed--and well deserved--part of the Hub City years ago.

Despite what many in northeast Lamar County apparently have long believed, this would be a short and longterm "win-win" for our entire metro area! Especially since your "Oak Grove" schools would not be affected. (Of course the City would have to bring in parts of Glendale, Eatonville, and Rawls Springs so as to not dilute "minority" voting strength [aka Federal Justice Dept approval via "The Voting Rights Act", but my long observation/opinion is that most of the "minority" folks in those communities are reasonable, non-racist, cooperative, educated/intelligent citizens of Good Faith & Good Will--and NOT "Uncle Toms" either!])...

This would also at least force DuPree & Co. to "show their hand": are they genuinely interested in the betterment of "Greater Hattiesburg" both in quantity and quality, or in just maintaining their non-cross-section "coalition" of power and money with immoral/illogical commercial annexations only?

What say ye my western brethren? (And why?/why not?) Let me have it--I can take it. (I've heard it all before anyway, and I've [i]had to take it lo these many years.)

JB2379
07-15-2005, 08:50 AM
Hubcityman, that's one of the best ideas I have heard on this board to deal with the Dupree situation. Since I live off of 40th, I couldn't be much help. But if the people in Oak Grove did ask Hattiesburg to annex them, that would certainly decrease Dupree's suppport base and we could possibly get him out of office come next election. This is definitely a smart plan. I just wish it could become reality.

HubCitySlicker
07-15-2005, 09:42 AM
It can't be done, legally, due the prohibition under the Voting Rights Act, of racial retrogression. Of course, the VRA is up for repeal soon. Until then, the percentage of BVAP can not be reduced by annexation of add'l population. Even if the VRA were repealed, OG people moved out of the City on purpose! They don't want back in.

jmack
07-15-2005, 12:05 PM
Why in the hell would Oak Grove want to be incorporated by Hattiesburg?

JB2379
07-15-2005, 12:13 PM
well, it sounds like a good idea to me. It makes a lot of sense, but apparently alot of people don't like this idea. Oh well!

aaron
07-15-2005, 12:19 PM
The best idea I've heard is Oak Grove incorporating. That's not going to happen either after the recent annexation though, Oak Grove lost all their prime revenue sources that are popping up around 98W.

Sir Mickey Mouse
07-15-2005, 12:30 PM
There has got to be a way for Oak Grove to incorporate. From what I have read, Oak Grove could have very limited city services until there is a good tax base. Oak Grove could get by with renting office space for city hall, using county fire protection, they already have a library, and having a limited number of employees. The only heavy expense immediately would be the fight for becoming a city and then a police force. They could continue contracting their water and sewer to the current providers until the time came to control that themselves... then, there are federal and state grants all over the place to help out.

Sir Mickey Mouse
07-15-2005, 12:47 PM
I was noticing that there are a lot of commercial properties being developed, already developed, or have great potential as Hattiesburg spreads. I mean just look at the Old Hwy. 11 intersection... in the rescent past, The First, McDonald's, Quizno's, gas stations, office park, BancorpSouth, and other places moved out here... people didn't expect that either, did they? Some business won't move into an area without it being a city... Wal-Mart won't, and I am not saying Wal-Mart will because there is already one right down the road... but other businesses want the city protection and the city zoning protection. They don't want to build a multi-million dollar location and have a crawfish stand built on an old trailer moving into the lot next door.

aaron
07-15-2005, 12:49 PM
yeah, and they've got it because those parts of Old Hwy 11 are Hattiesburg now.

Sir Mickey Mouse
07-15-2005, 12:55 PM
Exactly what I meant... they are within city limits... they are not just going into "the county"

JB2379
07-15-2005, 12:56 PM
You are correct aaron, those businesses on Hwy 11 are part of Hattiesburg now. A lot of people don't realize that. Heck, I didn't realize that until a couple of weeks ago.

Tire Swang
07-15-2005, 01:08 PM
Just wait and watch -- during the next 4 years, DuPree is going to propose some things that will really drain Hattiesburg's coffers. If, God forbid, some of his measures get through the City Council, just where do you think City Hall's eyes are going to turn as a source of more revenue?

jmack
07-15-2005, 02:45 PM
Most residences already have sewer, pest control, sanitation services and law enforcement. The City of Hattiesburg would just sponge off the tax base to pay for it's fat budget. City buses are running all over east hattiesburg with one or two riders. The Mayor is wasting 5 million dollars on extending the bike trail into downtown hattiesburg and no one would be caught on that trail without a guard dog. "This is grant money"... who pays the grant? We do.

lamarrebel
07-15-2005, 03:38 PM
(If not for--among other reasons-the asinne (e.g., I-59 is a "natural" barrier) and politically-motivated ruling of one State Judge Sebe Dale, your section would indeed have become a welcomed--and well deserved--part of the Hub City years ago. )


Another area judge (not necessarily 10th District Chancery) discussed that decision with me in his chambers recently and thought it border-line ridiculous. He understands the Voting Rights Act problems as well. And truthfully, there aren't enough African Americans that aren't annexed already in Forrest County to permit any substantial white annexation in Lamar County. And, as has already been mentioned, all of these folks left for a reason -- they don't want to be in Hattiesburg. Because of this, Canebrake and Lake Serene are safe.

I don't believe I have found more than two or three attorneys who have unbridled admiration for Sebe Dale. Why then does no one have the courage to take him on next year? The voters deserve, at last, an honest choice, and I believe a majority would choose to retire this imperial octogenerian if given the chance.

noway
05-21-2006, 12:40 AM
*Cough* *Cough* :smt102

This was 10 months ago.. HMMMMMM Be right back I have something to be stirred on the stove