Councilman Jones Arrested again?

[noway]

http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=4085365

Laurel city councilman joseph jones arrested again..

[noway]

I forget to check the independent online with breaking news.. I was suprised wdam already had it up..

[lamarrebel]

The second arrest most likely will ensure the Jones is denied bond. Under Mississippi law, when someone is arrested on a second felony while out of bond, their bond is revoked. The law, so far as I know, is silent when there are multiple felony charges that arise and virtually the same time (even before he can be released). I couldn't imagine him being released on bond, given these circumstances, however.

[jmb]

I must have missed something here. His second arrest...is that for the same crime as the first, or is this yet another one?

[wilebill]

I think it's for the same offense, but you may need to be a lawyer, or stay at a Holiday Inn Express, to truly understand. :smt102

[fuzzis]

I thought that this arrest was regarding a girl who was 14 at the time of the sexual assault. Wasn't the first one 13?

fuzzis

[wilebill]

My bad, I thought it was the same one. I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, so no wonder I was wrong.

[jmb]

This guy (scum) really likes 'em young. :( Wonder if there's more out there other than these two.

[lamarrebel]

How in a relatively small city like Laurel and a much smaller community in Ward 7 did this guy get elected? There's only approximately 2500 citizens in Ward 7 (maybe 1500 registered voters) and surely something as little as a custody battle involving a minor didn't slip under the radar screen. This is just completely mind boggling to me, especially on the heels of Thaddeus Edmondson.

I wonder when Kenneth Stokes and/or Bennie Thompson and/or better yet the False Phrophet Jesse are going to come down and say all of this is white racism?

[wilebill]

How in a relatively small city like Laurel and a much smaller community in Ward 7 did this guy get elected? There's only approximately 2500 citizens in Ward 7 (maybe 1500 registered voters) and surely something as little as a custody battle involving a minor didn't slip under the radar screen. This is just completely mind boggling to me, especially on the heels of Thaddeus Edmondson.

Two words - Marion Barry.

[beggingforrelief]

IMO I feel that Jones was elected by the people in his ward based on culture and not on merit. Not to put a racist or prejudice spin on this comment, but if you look at elections involving candidates of color, many of the voters cast their vote on race instead of merit. This includes whites, blacks and hispanics. Yes their are many voters who break from the culture lines to vote for the most qualified candidate, but their are far too many who are more concerned to get "their" candidate in office than a person who can cross barrier lines for the sake of the municipality. As a couple of examples, Deborah Dennard could represent her ward in Hattiesburg more effectively if when other council members disagreed with her, she would not put the racist spin on it. DuPree was elected in Hattiesburg, not by the majority of voters in Hattiesburg, but by the majority of people who voted (especially in the black wards). The same came true during the mayors election in Laurel. People of all cultures must be able to put color and/or culture aside for the benefit if the municipality and its citizens.

[noway]

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051116/NEWS01/511160318/1002


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[jmb]

"The next day, Jones refused to allow prosecutors to draw blood necessary for a DNA test."

If he's innocent, why fear a DNA test?

[wilebill]

This case just gets weirder and weirder. But I guess when you're dealing with a doofus like Jones, weirdness is to be expected.

[wilebill]

WDAM reported (http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=4170176&nav=1Pw1) that Jones tried to escape today.

More charges against him are expected. :smt038

[fuzzis]

I hear Bill Engval. How stupid can you get?

fuzzis

[wilebill]

Yeah, his elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.

I wonder if he'll cop an insanity plea?

[Tully Mars]

Yeah, his elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.

I wonder if he'll cop an insanity plea?

I guess it is too bad for him that pleading idiocy won't hold up in court. :smt102

[wilebill]

I guess it is too bad for him that pleading idiocy won't hold up in court. :smt102

If being an idiot were against the law, he'd probably get the death penalty. :smt118

[JB2379]

So did this idiot actually fall off the fence when the officers shook the fence? If so, he deserves life in prison, for being so stupid!

[wilebill]

Just heard a blurb from DAM that this idiot now doesn't want to give up any blood for a DNA analysis because it's against his religion. :smt102

I think he's worshipping the wrong thing. :smt118

[Sir Mickey Mouse]

He said he is Jehovah's Witness. Does anyone know anything about that religion? I know they don't celebrate birthdays or Christmas... obviously... but what the details? He said he can't give a blood sample because of his religion. Some folks need to find out when and where he got married. I imagine he had to give a blood sample for that, huh? He also used to be in the Air Force. I bet he had to give a blood sample a time or two there, also.

[reality]

He said he is Jehovah's Witness. Does anyone know anything about that religion? I know they don't celebrate birthdays or Christmas... obviously... but what the details? He said he can't give a blood sample because of his religion. Some folks need to find out when and where he got married. I imagine he had to give a blood sample for that, huh? He also used to be in the Air Force. I bet he had to give a blood sample a time or two there, also.

Here's a list of their belief's. I couldn't find anything about not being able to give blood. The only thing it mentioned about blood is #19 : You cannot take a blood transfusion, #61: You cannot use pet foods made with blood or blood products, and #99: You cannot donate blood or your organs when you die.

I guess he's using #99, but I read it as you can't donate blood "when you die."

Of all items listed below, only three have been discontinued. (marked with an asterisk.) All are listed, however, to show the absurdity of authority and the absolute control leadership has over the lives of members once they join.

My question is, with this extensive list, what CAN they do?

1. Jehovah God is not a Trinity
2. The doctrine of the Trinity is inspired by Satan.
3. Jesus Christ is a created being, who at one time did not exist (a.k.a.Michael the archangel)
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is only for select Jehovah's Witnesses.
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true Christians.
8. There is no Hell (It is simply the grave).
9. There is no life after death (except for the 144,000).
10. Salvation is by good works not by Grace .
11. You cannot be sure of salvation.
12. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to.
13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being.
14. You are discouraged from attending college.
15. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918.
16. All pastors are the "Antichrist".
17. All churches are of Satan.
18. All governments are controlled by Satan.
19. You cannot take a blood transfusion.
20. You cannot be a police officer.
21. You cannot salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag.
22. You cannot serve in the military.
23. You cannot buy girl Scout cookies.
24. You must attend five meetings per week.
25. Jesus'second coming occurred in 1914 (only known to Jehovah's Witnesses).
26. You cannot marry a non-Jehovah's Witness.
27. If one does not follow the rules of the Watchtower they will be shunned.
28. You cannot read Christian literature from a Christian book store.
29. You cannot be a cheerleader.
30. You cannot celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.).
31. You cannot celebrate your birthday.
32. You cannot run for or hold a political office.
33. You cannot vote in any political campaign.
34. You cannot serve on a jury.
35. You are discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes).
36. You cannot speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped).
37. You cannot accept Christmas gifts.
38. You must read and study Watchtower literature regularly.
39. Only Jehovah's Witnesses can understand the Bible.
40. Angels direct the Watchtower organization.
41. Jesus did not die on a cross but an upright pole.
42. You cannot own or wear a cross.
43. You must report your witnessing activity to the elders.
44. You must go from door to door weekly to gain converts.
45. You cannot have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses.
46. You must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister".
47. You cannot play chess*.
48. You cannot understand the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it.
49. A child abuser is reported to Watchtower elders and not the police.
50. You must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions.
51. You are discouraged from buying a two door car-A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work.
52. Men cannot wear beards.
53. Men must wear short hair.
54. Women cannot pray in the presence of men without a hat.
55. You cannot have a tattoo.
56. You forbidden to use any tobacco products.
57. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage.
58. You must appear before a Judicial committee if you are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed).
59. You must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits)*.
60. You cannot read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material.
61. You cannot use pet foods made with blood or blood products.
62. You cannot join any clubs or sports teams.
63. You cannot wear jade jewelry.*
64. You cannot purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.)
65. You cannot wear any Christian jewelry.
66. Jehovah's Witness meeting places have no windows.
67. If you see another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules you must turn them in to the elders to be interrogated.
68. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission.
69. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism.
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today.
71. Women must submit to Watchtower elders.
72. You cannot support your country.
73. One must study Watchtower books at least six months before he can be baptized.
74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 questions in front of a panel of elders.
75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses.
76. You cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride).
77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating.
78. JWs are are fobidden to say "good luck".
79. God is not omniscient "all knowing".
80. God is not omnipresent.
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York.
82. The Holy Spirit is only for select Jehovah's Witnesses.
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99. 99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper)
84. The Lord's supper can only be offered once per year.
85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses.
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon.
87. If you have a non-Witness spouse your first loyalty is to the elders over your spouse.
88. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man).
89. Judgment day is 1000 years long.
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected.
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God.
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name".
93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at armageddon.
94. You forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes.
95. You must never enter a church building.
96. You must never attend a church service.
97. You cannot be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling.
98. You cannot participate in a school play.
99. You cannot donate blood or your organ when you die.
100. You can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature.
10l. You are forbidden to attend a funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness.

[citygirl]

[QUOTE=realityofhub]........FONT=Georgia][COLOR=darkgreen]32. You cannot run for or hold a political office.
33. You cannot vote in any political campaign........

Guess he has selective memory huh? The HA did report that a blood sample was taken today.

I, at one time, worked with a person that was a JW. It was during a blood drive that the topic came up and no they do not believe in donating blood at all.

[reality]

[quote=realityofhub]........FONT=Georgia]32. You cannot run for or hold a political office.
33. You cannot vote in any political campaign........

Guess he has selective memory huh? The HA did report that a blood sample was taken today.

I, at one time, worked with a person that was a JW. It was during a blood drive that the topic came up and no they do not believe in donating blood at all.

LOL Citygirl!!!!! That didn't even register with me! :smt044[COLOR=#000000]

[jmb]

23. You cannot buy girl Scout cookies.:smt102

Wonder what the reasoning is behind that one.

[wilebill]

23. You cannot buy girl Scout cookies.:smt102

Wonder what the reasoning is behind that one.

Maybe they think they're actually made from Girl Scouts.

[Sir Mickey Mouse]

Ok I have literally said a prayer to God asking for forgiveness if this appears to be judging (which I guess it is)

18. All governments are controlled by Satan.

BUT he is a Laurel city councilman

21. You cannot salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag

BUT he stands to say the pledge at Laurel city council meetings.

22. You cannot serve in the military.
BUT he was in the United States Air Force, and proud of it

57. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage.
But, well, enough said... that's what he is in trouble for.

[wilebill]

Reality, where did you dig this up from? I hate to talk about someone's religion, but a lot of these seem really absurd.

If they're all true, I'm going to print them up and keep them by the door so I'll be armed to the teeth the next time the Jehova's Witnesses come knocking on my door. :-D

[reality]

Compiled by Paul & Pat Blizard
Former Third Generation Jehovah's Witnesses
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/reasons.html

[fuzzis]

57. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage.
But, well, enough said... that's what he is in trouble for.

Hmmmm...I wonder what constitutes "officially approved sexual practices"? And who officially approved them? Was there a committee? :-D

fuzzis

[fuzzis]

Reality, where did you dig this up from? I hate to talk about someone's religion, but a lot of these seem really absurd.

If they're all true, I'm going to print them up and keep them by the door so I'll be armed to the teeth the next time the Jehova's Witnesses come knocking on my door. :-D

From the Watchtower site (http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/Beliefs/their_beliefs.htm)

Blood

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to accept blood transfusions for themselves or their children, believing that this is the same as eating blood and is forbidden by the Bible. Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses have died because of this restriction the Watchtower Society has placed upon its followers. In the past the Watchtower Society has forbidden its followers to get vaccinations or accept organ transplants, many people died needlessly before the Watchtower Society changed its rules and allowed these procedures. They still hold fast to the prohibition of receiving blood transfusions. See the web site "New Light on Blood"


fuzzis

[reality]

From the Watchtower site (http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/Beliefs/their_beliefs.htm)

Blood

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to accept blood transfusions for themselves or their children, believing that this is the same as eating blood and is forbidden by the Bible. Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses have died because of this restriction the Watchtower Society has placed upon its followers. In the past the Watchtower Society has forbidden its followers to get vaccinations or accept organ transplants, many people died needlessly before the Watchtower Society changed its rules and allowed these procedures. They still hold fast to the prohibition of receiving blood transfusions. See the web site "New Light on Blood"


fuzzis

Thanks for answering for me fuzzis, but that's not exactly where I found it -- although the one you posted appears to be a great site as well. I posted the link from the site a few postings back from where I found mine.

[fuzzis]

Thanks for answering for me fuzzis, but that's not exactly where I found it -- although the one you posted appears to be a great site as well. I posted the link from the site a few postings back from where I found mine.

I suppose my post was a bit confusing. I wasn't meaning where you got the information from. The site I posted is the Jehovah's Witness site. I tend to believe it's always best to go to the source. If I have questions about the Mormons, for example, I tend to think it's best to go to them.

fuzzis

[reality]

Fuzzis, I see. It appeared as though you were answering for me at first, but now I see what you meant now. ;)

[fuzzis]

A couple of other sites that talk about what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and a bit about the history of the religion. (A long way to say that while the religion does not believe in blood transfusions, it doesn't appear that it would prohibit Councilman Jones from giving a sample for a DNA test)

Beliefnet (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8034_1.html)

Gotquestions (http://www.gotquestions.org/Jehovahs-Witnesses.html) (says they're a cult and not a Biblically based religion)

Watchtower (http://www.watchtower.org/library/jt/article_03.htm) (gives scriptures to support their beliefs)

fuzzis

[IGID]

I never knew that group was such a bunch of whackos. There is noway any of them can abided by that entire list. Jones missed several of them.

[IGID]

I'm confused. I checked out that watchtower site and the best I can tell, they're Christian. They're playing Bible games and quoting scripture from the Bible all over the place. Are they JW's ? or affiliated with them? If so, isn't that against about a dozen of thise rules? :smt102

[reality]

IGID, I don't know but I wouldn't trust that site since it's a JW site. I got my information from an ex-JW from this site: http://www.watchthetower.com/

Go there and click on the link which says "How do Jehovah's Witness teachings about Jesus Christ compare with Scripture?" It will probably answer some of your confusion.

It starts out like this:

Many people are confused about the Jehovah's Witnesses and their teachings regarding Jesus Christ. People who encounter them ask, "Do you believe in Jesus?" Jehovah's Witnesses will answer, "absolutely!" But is He the same Jesus of the Bible? Is He the same Jesus that Christians believe in and worship? The following will help to answer these important questions from the Scriptures.

Jehovah's Witnesses and Christians differ on the most important of any doctrine, who Jesus Christ really is. This is not just a minute technical point. Knowing and believing in the real Jesus has eternal ramifications.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus Christ was only a perfect man co-equal with the first man, Adam.....

[ynotme297]

if you want to get rid of them when they come to your door, then answer the door in your skivies while holding a shot gun and yell that they just intrupted your prayer service. won`t take them long to leave.:smt070

[RevranAL]

Dear Honorable and Honest Taxpayin' Citizens,

Councilman Jones claims to be a JEHOVAH WITNESS, to stall the many legal troubles he has weathered

But any grown man messin' round a 13 year old child, needs to be pulled outa jail and gets tarred and feathered

Glory Be! Glory Be!
RevranAL

[wilebill]

if you want to get rid of them when they come to your door, then answer the door in your skivies while holding a shot gun and yell that they just intrupted your prayer service. won`t take them long to leave.:smt070

Are you speaking from experience? :smt119

[noway]

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060302/NEWS01/60302006

He asked potential jurors to overlook his accent because he was raised in the backwoods. He also asked them to overlook his slurred speech because he wasn’t allowed to wear his false teeth in court


Have anyone else noticed that in the Pine Belt section threads are missing.. You do a search and they come up.. :smt102

[wilebill]

Have anyone else noticed that in the Pine Belt section threads are missing..
I think I saw Rev. Fairley's son rummaging through the place.

[Sir Mickey Mouse]

JONES FOUND GUILTY

http://www.onlineindependent.net/cgi-bin/page.cgi?id=622

[wilebill]

JONES FOUND GUILTY
I'm sure ward 7 has plenty more criminals, I mean candidates, ready to run for his spot.

[wilebill]

Can this guy and his wife get any more stupider? http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=4710200

I think I may have already said this, but if stupidity were a crime, they'd be facing the death penalty.

[jojobeans1120]

:bash: what idiots!!!

[lamarrebel]

Can this guy and his wife get any more stupider? http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=4710200

I think I may have already said this, but if stupidity were a crime, they'd be facing the death penalty.

To borrow a phrase from another idiot, Jim Hightower, if ignorance went for $50 a barrel, I want drilling rights on these two's heads!

[wilebill]

To borrow a phrase from another idiot, Jim Hightower, if ignorance went for $50 a barrel, I want drilling rights on these two's heads!
Who you calling an idiot? :smt062 :smt071

[wilebill]

He was convicted of sexual battery and was sentenced to 15 years. (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060518/NEWS01/60518011)

I guess we don't have anyone in Laurel to make fun of for awhile.

[lamarrebel]

Ward 7 tends to replace one scandalous character with another -- just give them time!

[JB2379]

Can this guy and his wife get any more stupider? I think I may have already said this, but if stupidity were a crime, they'd be facing the death penalty.

Wile E. Coyote award nominees?

[wilebill]

Wile E. Coyote award nominees?
I try to base the award on something current. He's always been stupid and probably will continue to be, but his stupidest stunt happened several years ago. The last stupid stunt happened before I started giving the award out.

He's one of those people that late night talk show hosts can make a career out of.