I want my Ring Back

[noway]

Don't pay attention to the author OKAY.. Be Honest

Purchased a ring for a girl in December 2004 and in February of 2005 she finds another man.. We have spoken a few times since then and I keep asking for the ring back but she pretty much tells me to bleep...

Why does the women always get everything and what does she want with it anyway?

I might just let Judge Mathis decide :smt102

So should the girl give it back or keep it?

[fuzzis]

Oh wow. When the ex-boy left, I told him to take everything...I didn't want anything to remind me (so much so that my friends and family had to step in and set some limits or I would have literally had nothing) so I can't imagine keeping something as significant as an engagement ring. I wouldn't want it hanging around to remind me of what could have or should have been.

On the other hand, there is something to be said for dignity and for moving on. If it were me, I would have asked once. And then let it go. To continue to harp (perhaps not the best word) on it this much later, bears a whiff of desperation and fixedness. While in the immediate aftermath of the end of a relationship, there is little comfort in platitudes such as "you're better off" and "it's a small price to pay to know the true colors of a person", but at this point...there should be some truth to them.

:smt102

fuzzis

[wilebill]

Depends. If it was an engagement ring, she should give it back. If it was just a "gift" type thing, then she gets to keep it.

[jmb]

I take it this is an emgagement ring? She should give it back.

[noway]

:smt102 I had another word for the ring.. :smt102

My point is why does the girl always keep it.. They don't wear it.. They are just being a bitty... IMO

Judge Mathis might be hearing this case...

[lamarrebel]

I have to agree with the above posters, if it's an engagement ring, she should certainly give it back, morally speaking. However, legally speaking it may be engagement or non engagement that it falls under the meaning of gift and would be non recoverable. This is, however, an issue of first impression for me, so I might have to supplement my response later.

[Southern_Belle]

If it is an engagement ring then, ...

It is a gift.
Not only a gift, but a commitment and promise.
Although she was the one to break that promise, what would you want with the ring anyway? You aren't going to give it to another girl... are you noway?
Is it financed and are you still paying on it?

I'm not sure what I think about the issue of giving it back... undecided.

[aaron]

Tell her to give it back or you'll release some pictures of her to the internet. When she asks what pictures, hang up.

[Susan from H'burg]

It is my understanding that an engagement ring is part of a contract and if she broke the contract she should return the ring. If you want you could sue her in Justice Court; we had a client do that and the judge ordered the girl to immediately surrender the ring (she did so- she tried to argue unsuccessfully that the ring was a gift and not an engagement ring; the judge didn't buy it). Rings can be quite pricey, so I personally don't think you should feel badly about trying to recover it.

[IGID]

Was it an engagement ring or just a ring for a girlfriend? If it was an engagement ring, she has to give it back. If it was just a ring for a girlfriend, she gets to keep it and pawn it and buy herself something nice....lol

[jmb]

Excellent advice, QM. Listen to her, noway...she knows her stuff!

Proper etiquette dictates giving the ring back also.

[fuzzis]

:smt102 I had another word for the ring.. :smt102

My point is why does the girl always keep it.. They don't wear it.. They are just being a bitty... IMO

Judge Mathis might be hearing this case...

I really hope you're not serious about the Judge Mathis thing, noway. If you called it something other than an engagement ring, then you're a little on the screwed side. Were you trying to hedge your bets?

There are all kinds of things that people *should* do, but unfortunately, many folks do what they want to do. And there's not much you can do about that.

fuzzis

[Biggie]

Noway, you might need Biggie and his crew to persuade this girl to give it up. :fed: :fed:

[aaron]

Uh...dude, sounds like you have some experience in these types of matters...:smt006

not yet, but then again, if I give her an expensive ring, I'm not going to her time to run. :)

[justme]

Here is the answer - Straight from the Emily Post website:

The Etiquette of Broken Engagements
Should Jennifer Lopez return the ring? It may be an exquisite 6.1 carat pink diamond ring worth more than a million dollars, but the etiquette guidelines remain the same as for any broken engagement. If an engagement is broken, the bride should immediately return the ring to her former fiancé.
The only “but” in this case is if the ring is a family heirloom of the bride’s. She should then keep the ring.
Some argue that the ring should not be returned to the fiancé if he was the one to initiate the break-up—rather than a mutual decision to call it quits. It makes more sense to return it. Why keep a painful reminder of the end of an engagement just to be spiteful? It’s better to take the high road and move on.
The bride should also return any other presents of value her fiancé has given her, and he should return her gifts as well.

[lamarrebel]

Justice Court has a jurisdictional limit of $2,500.00....I'm not sure what this ring is worth.

[543LISTguy]

Justice Court has a jurisdictional limit of $2,500.00....I'm not sure what this ring is worth.

I dont know what the ring is worth either BUT...i know Noway and I would bet my @$# its not over the $2500:-D

[noway]

Thanks everybody.. I haven't spoke to her in about two months.. It was just pocket change..Thought this would be a good Valentine topic incase some guys out there are filling out a loan application..

PS>. I guess she is still pissed because I got her fired from her job :smt102 :smt102 ...

Fuzzis.. This is a perfect story for a Judge Mathis show..

Did I tell yall I was on the Montel Williams show a few years back.

[fuzzis]

Thanks everybody.. I haven't spoke to her in about two months.. It was just pocket change..Thought this would be a good Valentine topic incase some guys out there are filling out a loan application..

PS>. I guess she is still pissed because I got her fired from her job :smt102 :smt102 ...

Fuzzis.. This is a perfect story for a Judge Mathis show..

Did I tell yall I was on the Montel Williams show a few years back.

Well, with the additional information...I'm thinking you best leave sleeping dogs alone. :smt102

fuzzis

[jmack]

I was on Melrose Place a few years back. And NOW Heather Locklear is available.

[SxyHubLady]

The kind of ring it was, she gets to keep it. Sorry hun, that's the way it goes. :smt070

[IGID]

Fired? Holy crap. You can kiss that ring goodbye. She probably flushed it anyway. I would.

[MSQueen]

well, noway, i personally believe that if u went on Judge Mathis or Judge Joe Brown they would rule as follows:

--if the ring wasn't an engagement ring and given as a "gift" or "just because", it IS a gift, and she keeps it.

--if the ring WAS an engagement ring, it is considered part of a contract to marry, and if SHE broke off the relationship, she would legally be ordered to give the ring back to u, since she broke the "contract to marry".

--if YOU broke off the relationship, SHE would be entitled to keep the ring, since YOU broke the "contract to marry".

as stated before, i do believe there would be an exception if the engagement ring were a family heirloom from someone in ur family.

(that's my two cents worth... ) :-D

[XC9]

That is pretty cold noway! Taking someones livelyhood due to a personal conflict-I am ashamed of you. Bless your heart, what she obviously didn't rip out. Live and learn-thought you watched these judge shows enough to know what the laws are. Most people do not have the morals to do the right thing especially about returning jewelry. I think you can sue her for breach of promise, you may want to take that route-lol.

[lamarrebel]

It is my understanding that an engagement ring is part of a contract and if she broke the contract she should return the ring. If you want you could sue her in Justice Court; we had a client do that and the judge ordered the girl to immediately surrender the ring (she did so- she tried to argue unsuccessfully that the ring was a gift and not an engagement ring; the judge didn't buy it). Rings can be quite pricey, so I personally don't think you should feel badly about trying to recover it.


Well...Justice Courts are often not courts of law, but rather courts of personal whim -- as one law professor at Ole Miss often said, they are neither Justice nor Court. In this case, that might work to your advantage..as the morally/common sense right thing to do appears to be to make her give it back. I could probably name a number of justice court judges in this area that would likely rule that way on a case like this.

Forrest County, however, is somewhat of an exception rather than the norm -- three out of the four Justice Court Judges are actually attorneys (there are probably arent ten others in the entire state that are). I'm curious which Judge is was that made this ruling in that case.

[noway]

I heard today that the x-girl is still wearing the ring....My intel told me she likes the ring... :smt119 :smt119 10-92

[fuzzis]

I heard today that the x-girl is still wearing the ring....My intel told me she likes the ring... :smt119 :smt119 10-92

Dude. Let it go. Start repeating a mantra or something..."I forgive you x-girl and release you to the universe (or the holy spirit or the whatever the hell you believe in)" until you believe it. But find a way to get over it and get on.

fuzzis

[ynotme297]

hey noway, just keep buying them cracker jacks until you find another one.:smt046

[Susan from H'burg]

Well...Justice Courts are often not courts of law, but rather courts of personal whim -- as one law professor at Ole Miss often said, they are neither Justice nor Court. In this case, that might work to your advantage..as the morally/common sense right thing to do appears to be to make her give it back. I could probably name a number of justice court judges in this area that would likely rule that way on a case like this.

Forrest County, however, is somewhat of an exception rather than the norm -- three out of the four Justice Court Judges are actually attorneys (there are probably arent ten others in the entire state that are). I'm curious which Judge is was that made this ruling in that case.

Hub, I'm sorry, I have racked my brain and I honestly do not remember which judge it was; however, I don't believe that it was Causey, who of course is the only judge who isn't an attorney.

[noway]

Today would have been 3 years since :lovers2:..... jfsdjf;sdkflsdkfdksf';dskf;dsfk'dsfd;flfdd;'lfd;sl fdslfs'dfsa

:smt089 :smt089 :bottleofb :banghead:

[fuzzis]

Three years is a long time to be hanging on to that resentment, dude. Gonna let her keep getting at you for another three? or are you going to truly let it go and move on?

:smt102

fuzzis

[wilebill]

I bought you a new one. It's on the right side under all your points and stuff.

[justme]

Hey Buddy- You got to let this go. After three years you need to find some closure and move ahead. I understand hanging on to the past, but at the same time, the future is what you have, the past is what you USED to have. The future is anything YOU make of it.

[SouthChic]

I agree, Noway. Let it go and move on. I can assure you, she has.

[noway]

Today is her birthday..... Happy Birthday!!!!!

:smt073 :smt056 :cry: :smt091

[daisy]

I just started reading this thread "cause it was on last posts.

What were you on Montel Williams for? Were you really?

Sorry,about the ring I read about. I hope it makes her finger itch to death. I know it's good quality, still. Just hope she feels like scuz when she looks at it and has to send it back cause it itches her and brings her down.

Wouldn't that be good in a movie?

[Astra]

I'd say this thread has crossed the line into Dr. Phil territory.

If people were telling you how much you needed to move on both seven and four months ago, what do you think they're going to say now?

:bash:

[daisy]

Excuse me, what because he happened to remember it's her birthday. So. Look at the time he posted it.

I've lived long enough to have triggers that remind me of past heartaches, regrets, or joys. Just because you remember something doesn't mean a whole lot or that you haven't moved on the best you can.

I know I'm not a computer that can erase my past. We're all human.

Only Noway knows what he needs. Don't be too quick to judge someone with out knowing something about them. I am guilty of that too. Too many talk shows convince us that we're counselors. That's not my field.

[wilebill]

I hear there's a prostitution ring in need of a home.

[fuzzis]

I hear there's a prostitution ring in need of a home.

Bad, Coyote. Very, very bad coyote. :smt103 :smt103 (funny as hell, but...BAD coyote!)

fuzzis

[58ford]

Chicks Should give back engaement presents if they dump a guy.
But, some chicks are just money grubbing Skanks & refuse to be honorable.
In that case, cut your loss & be glad to be rid of the unwholesome C***.
If a chick puts out for the $$$ & then keeps the$$$ then we know what she is. She does too.

[noway]

I haven't talked to her since last sept or october and I sent her an email about 4 months ago.. For her birthday I sent an email and birthday card. I recieved an email back from her today "Thanks for the card how've you been?"

so whats next? email her back? Wait till thanksgiving or christmas to email or send her a card? call her? move on?

Skip the BS And propose to her? Send her this link? :smt006

[58ford]

Any chick that keeps the ring is a skank. You don't want her. She'll just do it to you again. If she wouldn't she wouldn't have in the first place. End communications, cut your losses.

[wilebill]

I haven't talked to her since last sept or october and I sent her an email about 4 months ago.. For her birthday I sent an email and birthday card. I recieved an email back from her today "Thanks for the card how've you been?"

so whats next? email her back? Wait till thanksgiving or christmas to email or send her a card? call her? move on?

Skip the BS And propose to her? Send her this link? :smt006

How about, "Great to hear from you again. Give me my damn ring back. Love, noway."?

[zorro]

Did I tell yall I was on the Montel Williams show a few years back.

Wasn't that the Jerry Springer show? :smt118

[58ford]

Noway,
Check in your pants for a pair of hairy, plum size objects.
USE 'EM!!!

[kevin]

He could get together with her for one more Romp in the Hay and as she sleeps slip it of her finger?I think that's what a woman would do if the shoe was on the other foot.

[58ford]

Didn't I just say that?

[58ford]

Snag her wallet while you're at it.

[daisy]

That's a good one Kevin, you understand the female mind when she wants something.

I don't know what to tell you to do. I just know sometimes from past relationships sometimes when I've met them again later after being away from the relationship, I've gone - God, what was I thinking? either I changed or they did. And other times, I know to run as fast as I can away from some. I guess I have to decide what is best for me?

Trust is a biggie for me. and being able to be myself, accepted, supported and understood or at least someone trying to understand why I do what I do.

I guess as I get older I've found I need a safe place to fall in a relationship. I've had enough drama before.

[daisy]

Ya'll are too funny.

[noway]

She has a few friends her in Hattiesburg (she lives in AL) now.. I stopped asking about her to them.. Because everytime I did she found out about it.. Everyone of you sound just like a MAN with your responses..LOL... I would like to have her back not run her off again.. I want to ask her whats up with her life but I don't think I can handle the response I get.. Im going to think over how I will respond to the email.. I will let you know..

[daisy]

I am not a man and don't sound like one. Do I? I'm sure you didn't mean me. I'm picking.

Good luck, Noway. I have faith you'lldo what you need to do.

[kevin]

Write her a letter,let her know how ya feel! I learned woman are competitive so anything you say to her friends only makes matters worse.I would bank that she still wears that ring because of some feelings for you not it's value etc.I had a woman keep my ring through a marriage and after it failed 7 years later she professed her love for me.Go figure?

[Bahlk]

noway...keep the strength brother. You don't have to hook up with her to get your ring back. Hook her up with one of your friends and have him slip the ring off.

[zorro]

It's not really the ring that he wants back.

[58ford]

She has a few friends her in Hattiesburg (she lives in AL) now.. I stopped asking about her to them.. Because everytime I did she found out about it.. Everyone of you sound just like a MAN with your responses..LOL... I would like to have her back not run her off again.. I want to ask her whats up with her life but I don't think I can handle the response I get.. Im going to think over how I will respond to the email.. I will let you know..
I give up.
Put your testicles on a nice heavy anvil & give her a ball pean hammer.

[sidelinetolong]

Noway put a picture of her as your avatar and let us check her out!

[58ford]

Just gimme her address. I'll go fix everything.
Trust me.:)

[citygirl]

Noway, be patient. If she is the one meant for you it will happen. If not, you don't need to push it and end up with the wrong person. When you least expect it, IT will happen.

Good things come to those who wait...I'll have to share my story with you the next gathering we have... :smt103

[58ford]

Word to the wise:
Buy the ring on credit in her name.
That way you're at least guaranteed the use of the pooty til the bill's paid.

[58ford]

I ain't a pessimist. I'm a realist.

[zorro]

Good things come to those who wait...I'll have to share my story with you the next gathering we have...

Oh, just go ahead and share your story here. We're all your friends (even if we've never met) and we would all love to hear a good story that can teach us about life (especially if it has a happy ending). :)

[citygirl]

Oh, just go ahead and share your story here. We're all your friends (even if we've never met) and we would all love to hear a good story that can teach us about life (especially if it has a happy ending). :)

Nope - to long to type and I can't drink at work. Gotta have a Miller Lite or 3 :-D

[58ford]

Good things come to those who wait..
Not necessarily, some people miss the good stuff cause they wait too long. (Then somebody keeps their ring)
Remember "The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese!" (Not to my point, I just like that quote.)

[Southern_Belle]

noway - i am disappointed in you. i thought we settled this at the barbeque??? :smt102 obviously not. However, I agree with Zorro - I don't think it is ONLY the ring that you want back.

[fuzzis]

I was talking with a friend a week or so ago...and she expressed the thought that when a man shows this kind of weakness and insecurity, it's a huge turn-off. I have to say that the same is true for me.

Noway...this girl knows the score, and you know it too. Don't further humiliate yourself because you're lonely.

fuzzis

[58ford]

Noway, if you're too hard up I heard there's some black-footed skank over on th 42 bypass.

[noway]

http://www.nack.us/web_images/funny/123bqxz.jpg (http://www.nack.us/web_images/)

No emails from her lately

[SoMissTV]

um... what the hell?

[Conveyor Belt]

I think she got some oil on her hair... yuck... oily hair, thin lips, and painted on eyebrows... she's only got two good things going for her.

[SoMissTV]

Personality and her humor?

[Conveyor Belt]

Well, she's got one good arm. I don't know where the other one is.

[wilebill]

I didn't notice that she had any arms.

[Conveyor Belt]

I like the cross around her neck. Nice touch.

[Maggie-Doodle]

You guys are sooooo bad! Just soooo bad! :) lol

[fuzzis]

What's up with that surly look? I suppose it's true that men really do love bitches.

fuzzis

[Astra]

You think their eyes ever make it above the neck?

[Conveyor Belt]

What's up with that surly look? I suppose it's true that men really do love bitches.

fuzzis

I don't know. I don't get it. It's NOT sexy to me... like I said, she's only got two good things going for her, and even those aren't that great...

[citygirl]

What's up with that surly look? I suppose it's true that men really do love bitches.

fuzzis

Yeah, but what's the saying? No matter how good she looks, somewhere, some man is tired of putting up with her $h!t...

[carsalesguy]

this one is turning into another oak grove threat

[LipsofanAngel]

Alright, well I know I'm a little late posting on this thread... but I just recently found out about the whole "ring" situation! Ofcourse everyone's situation is always a bit different... but I thought I'd share this quote. It got me through a pretty tough break up this past March...

"Even though you may want to move forward in your life, you may have one foot on the brakes. In order to be free, we must learn how to let go. Release the hurt. Release the fear. Refuse to entertain your old pain. The energy it takes to hang on to the past is holding you back from a new life. What is it you would let go of today?"

[58ford]

Blah, blah , blah, the boy just needs to get laid.
Problem solved.

[carsalesguy]

Amen!!!

[carsalesguy]

p.s....i thought that this discussion was dead? i guess that is what i get for thinking.....

[LipsofanAngel]

yeah, well it was mentioned on another thread. Otherwise I would not have bothered to read this one or post anything. I do apologize for any unnecessary reading I may have caused you. ;)

[58ford]

yeah, well it was mentioned on another thread. Otherwise I would not have bothered to read this one or post anything. I do apologize for any unnecessary reading I may have caused you. ;)
blah, blah, blah, you probly just need to......

Is that Audrey Hepburn?

[LipsofanAngel]

blah, blah, blah, you probly just need to......

Is that Audrey Hepburn?


...possibly true.

and yes, the avatar is Audrey. The signature pic obviously is not... that one's me :)

[carsalesguy]

The signature pic obviously is not... that one's me :)

looks like your going into convulsions infront of a lot of colored lights......

i don't do anything at work surprise surprise except read this list, and it is only for a couple of reasons:

1) everyone is as lazy as me and don't want to get out and look at cars

2) everyone hears the stupid advantage suzuki $99 sale and they think a suzuki is a good car, yet it is a daewoo.....

and i don't sell daewoos......anyone looking for a car?

[zorro]

...The signature pic obviously is not... that one's me :)
Could you blow it up bigger? I can't see it very well. :smt119

[zorro]

And now for the rest of the story:

A very excited mother asked her daughter: Well, what happened when you showed the girls in the office your new engagement ring? Did they all admire it?


Her daughter replied: Better than that, five of them recognized it!


:rip:

[nooskye]

ooooooooo ... that's SO wrong!!

[daisy]

I am sorry about the picture. I thought that was a spider web. My eyes are still healing from eye surgery and I am not sure my reading glasses are right yet. At first I thought it was a person but the lights threw me.

I guess I have been seeing Halloween decorations everywhere. A flexible dancer now that I look closer. OOPS>

[Baloo]

Ya know, I've know noway for a long time and hidden beneath his facade of cynicism lies a very generous and fragile heart... He doesn't give his love easily and when he does love someone, he loves them forever. The ring was a symbol of that love and I think that he wants it back because it is a tangible reminder of that love. I don't think that it has anything to do with the money...

[543LISTguy]

I've known NOWAY for 11 years......I'm sure its the money!

[No-Halo]

Sounds like Baloo might be an alias for Noway...hmmmm

[carsalesguy]

ah..........the alias games again!!!

[Biggie]

It is obvious that this nice Christian lady is a religious woman with values.
Just look at that necklace.


http://www.nack.us/web_images/funny/123bqxz.jpg (http://www.nack.us/web_images/)

No emails from her lately

[No-Halo]

It is obvious that this nice Christian lady is a religious woman with values.Just look at that necklace.

Thats the same impression I get Biggie, she has that "come hither and confess" look to her.

[Bahlk]

what good would it do to confess when you'd just have to confess again afterwards LOL