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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    True. But I've learned a lot from talking to other people that I didn't read on the website, and I've read most of it more than once.
    Very true, and the same for me and the Church I'm in now. Just commenting that all religious bodies (really, all groups of people) have customs beyond their stated doctrines.
    "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by countrygirl View Post
    The Baptists love their music more....I have a son in law that is a Baptist because they let him run the sound system...(seriously, that's not the only reason). That's in a town where you have to actively hunt to find a Baptist church.
    Oh I'm glad you mentioned that. I need to add it to my list of differences. I HATED the music they sing at Baptist churches. IMO, if the song is not in a hymnal or most of the people don't know how it goes, it doesn't serve any purpose in a worship service BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T SING IT. The giant screens in front of the church? Don't get me started. First of all, it's tacky. Secondly, when they use it for putting up lyrics to the ridiculous songs, they never keep it switching in time with the song so you have this many-thousand-dollar system and you still can't sing the song. It's a distraction.

    I also have to say that something feels off to me when I look up on the stage and there are 10 people up there, 7 or 8 of whom could easily go sit back down and not be missed.

    That's just a soapbox of mine and I know it's personal preference, but it IS a difference in the churches I grew up going to (Baptist) and the one I like to go to now (Methodist.) The one I like now uses a hymnal and it's pretty traditional. It's supposed to be about focusing on God, after all, not singing whatever latest crap is playing on K-Love. Ok sorry. Rant over.


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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Baptists= no drinking, dancing, cussing in public. Only allowed behind closed doors.
    Public confession of faith. Drown you in baptism.

    Methodists= drinking, dancing, cussing in public. Less public confession of faith (no walking the isle required). Just a sprinkle will get you baptized.

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Some differences we find in the Lord's Prayer. Easy to see why some like me jump from the baptist faith to the methodist.
    I mean I haven't trespassed since I was a kid fishing in a neighbor's pond. But I have racked up some debt in my day...




    Baptist's Lord's Prayer Methodist's Lord's Prayer
    Our Father, who art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come;
    thy will be done
    of earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    and forgive us our trespasses
    as we forgive those who trespass against us;

    and lead us not into temptation
    but deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,
    And the power,
    And the glory,
    Forever.
    Our father, who art in Heaven,
    Hallowed be thy name;
    Thy kingdom come,
    Thy will be done.
    On earth, as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    And forgive us our debts
    As we have forgiven our debtors;

    And lead us not into temptation,
    But deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,
    And the power,
    And the glory,
    Forever.
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteMitchell View Post
    Ok, buddy....I'll do that...no, better yet...why don't you just STFU?? How's that sound?

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    The Baptists churches I've attended mostly focused the sermons on what people did wrong: don't drink, don't do drugs. You better get saved or you're going to hell. A lot of fear, intimidation and judgment. There's also a lot of energy focused on outsiders: those who wear dark clothes and jewelry from Hot Topic are wrong, Disney World is wrong, let's burn records and books because they're wrong, etc. These are pastors making these decisions and everyone going along with it rather than individuals making up their own minds.

    The one Methodist church I attended didn't do any of that.

    This is probably not what you were looking for, but I'm just posting what I know first hand.
    "Things are not always what they seem; the first appearance deceives many; the intelligence of a few perceives what has been carefully hidden." - Phaedrus

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    http://www.myhattiesburg.com/forums/...sts+difference

    There's the original thread on the topic. (I'm the "guest" poster. My username was deleted a while back so the system doesn't recognize that Mac has been here longer than since May 2010.)

    I just went back and re-read the first few pages of it. Very good thread.
    Last edited by mac; 10-26-2010 at 12:32 PM.


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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie Tree Slayer View Post
    Some differences we find in the Lord's Prayer. Easy to see why some like me jump from the baptist faith to the methodist.
    I mean I haven't trespassed since I was a kid fishing in a neighbor's pond. But I have racked up some debt in my day...




    Baptist's Lord's Prayer Methodist's Lord's Prayer
    Our Father, who art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come;
    thy will be done
    of earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    and forgive us our trespasses
    as we forgive those who trespass against us;

    and lead us not into temptation
    but deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,
    And the power,
    And the glory,
    Forever.
    Our father, who art in Heaven,
    Hallowed be thy name;
    Thy kingdom come,
    Thy will be done.
    On earth, as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    And forgive us our debts
    As we have forgiven our debtors;

    And lead us not into temptation,
    But deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,
    And the power,
    And the glory,
    Forever.
    We don't say debts. We say trespasses every week. Whoever wrote that is incorrect. Check out the first line from the UMC website on this article:

    http://www.umc.org/site/apps/nlnet/c...595&ct=7704989

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    It means the same thing either way.


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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by drake View Post
    We don't say debts. We say trespasses every week. Whoever wrote that is incorrect. Check out the first line from the UMC website on this article:

    http://www.umc.org/site/apps/nlnet/c...595&ct=7704989
    Yeah yeah I know... I am still a baptist too...

    I heard a comedian give this analogy many years ago and thought it was funny... I have been in many churches from both denominations and have heard the two variations in both...

    Maybe I shoulda put a smiley in there...

    Truth is I have been to some laid back Baptist churches as well as the uptight. Same with the Methodist...

    The question y'all should really be concerned with is, If a Baptist and a Catholic were to marry, would their children be considered "Captists"?
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteMitchell View Post
    Ok, buddy....I'll do that...no, better yet...why don't you just STFU?? How's that sound?

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It means the same thing either way.
    I am sure a more scholarly person than I will come along and correct me but I believe it is referring more to the sins that others may have committed toward us just as we have sinned towards others...

    Maybe a translation issue?
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteMitchell View Post
    Ok, buddy....I'll do that...no, better yet...why don't you just STFU?? How's that sound?

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    wtf?
    LOL - Mac dropped a "wtf" in a religion tred.

    KLASSIKUL.
    This signature has been confiscated by the U.S. government and redistributed to other users who couldn't afford signatures.

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    What DTS said. Debts vs trespasses is a translation issue. In my church I hear both versions, depending on what English translation is being used. We don't have an "official version" -- some use KJV, some use others. It doesn't have any theological meaning at all.
    "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Here's a discussion of this issue:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Prayer

    Also, we sing the Lord's Prayer in certain contexts, and the sung version is always "debts" -- it's very hard to sing "trespasses"
    "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Above is a link regarding the beliefs of the United Methodist Church regarding salvation.

    Below are a couple of links about Southern Baptist beliefs:

    http://www.sbc.net/bfm/bfm2000.asp

    http://www.baptiststart.com/print/ba...tinctives.html

    Note: there are many other types of baptists than Southern Baptists.
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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Peppern? Baplicks? I love it...
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteMitchell View Post
    Ok, buddy....I'll do that...no, better yet...why don't you just STFU?? How's that sound?

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    Smile Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Baptists and Methodists are friends: fellow Christians. I am a Baptist minister, and would be happy to lay out some of our differences on the "nonessentails" (We agree on the essentials of the faith).

    Baptists baptize exclusively by dunking after someone becomes a Christian. Methodists may sprinkle, pour, or dunk.

    Baptists churches, though they work together, are all independent "autonomous" churches. Methodists have a national structure.

    Baptists believe that God secures the salvation of those who become a Christian. However, some people who seem to "fall away" may never have been truly saved. Methodists believe someone could lose their salvation.

    Methodists are more likely than Baptists to have female Pastors, although because every Baptist church is independent, this isn't always the case.

    I hope this helps. Feel free to worship in a Baptist or Methodist church. If you'd like, I would love to see you at The Grove Church sometime!

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    Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG39402 View Post
    Baptists churches, though they work together, are all independent "autonomous" churches. Methodists have a national structure.
    United Methodists have a national structure. All Methodists do not.

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    Smile Re: Baptist vs. Methodist

    Quote Originally Posted by RLBaty View Post
    You get paid for that?

    Got ties to WCU?

    What is your position on the income tax free ministerial housing allowance being currently challenged as unconstitutional in federal court; with a Baptist minister and the PJI trying to intervene and help defeat the effort to challenge the law.

    You may wish to search the archives here for the threads dealing with such issues and add engage those discussions.
    I do have a salary, yes. I went to William Carey, but never finished my degree. As far as the issue with housing allowance, I believe all the ministers aught to comply with the current law and if the government decides that we shouldn't get a tax benefit on our residency, then we need to pay up. If they decide we can keep that benefit, then I am thankful as ministers have many expenses and everything helps. Is it constitutional? I'm not a lawyer.

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